Technology is good...
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...at least that's what I thought 20 years ago. Now I am so sad to here about RFID[^]s. And the real stuff behind RFID : overview[^], leaked[^] docs. PS : the future envisioned by some people is that RFIDs would not be disabled once customers are back home from their purchase, and RFIDs could silently communicate with other home devices to gather user profiles, and open a new breed of marketing opportunities. In lobbying documents that have leaked, it's already made clear that at some point, PCs could even use tiered web services and push information collected by RFIDs. Next time you hear a politician say "I want one PC in each home"...Ironically, that's what French prime minister said a month ago. I didn't get his point. You are fully entitled to dismiss this post as true paranoia if you like. But please make sure that, regardless of the topic itself, may be the most interesting point is the political approach, lobbies, and opinion manipulation. I am used to read technical docs, and I kind of refute "management" papers, those papers that explain how to handle bad situations, how to dismiss a person, etc. The leaked papers I refer to above are much worse than this, and are about the incremental techniques to put into practice in order to mentally manipulate persons and groups.
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...at least that's what I thought 20 years ago. Now I am so sad to here about RFID[^]s. And the real stuff behind RFID : overview[^], leaked[^] docs. PS : the future envisioned by some people is that RFIDs would not be disabled once customers are back home from their purchase, and RFIDs could silently communicate with other home devices to gather user profiles, and open a new breed of marketing opportunities. In lobbying documents that have leaked, it's already made clear that at some point, PCs could even use tiered web services and push information collected by RFIDs. Next time you hear a politician say "I want one PC in each home"...Ironically, that's what French prime minister said a month ago. I didn't get his point. You are fully entitled to dismiss this post as true paranoia if you like. But please make sure that, regardless of the topic itself, may be the most interesting point is the political approach, lobbies, and opinion manipulation. I am used to read technical docs, and I kind of refute "management" papers, those papers that explain how to handle bad situations, how to dismiss a person, etc. The leaked papers I refer to above are much worse than this, and are about the incremental techniques to put into practice in order to mentally manipulate persons and groups.
I've come across them before and how they are to be used by companies to be able to see not only what you buy but what the people who come into their stores by. The idea being that they can then stock their shops to reflect tastes of the types of customers that enter their stores. I thought that was scary enough. I know certain people on this site think that you should be completely open about your entire life but I just plain don't want private companies to not only be able to keep track of what I have bought but were I bought it from. What shops I entered wearing and how long I wore it for. It's just plain none of there business. I mean it's not like I invite the guy from the sandwich shop round my house when I'm gonna take a dump. The whole thing about using it as a security measure is really scary though "Theft will be drastically reduced because items will report when they are stolen, their smart tags also serving as a homing device toward their exact location." This means if you have an item equiped with this stuff your location can be traced at any time. At the moment in England this is only done through the use of an ankle strap device on people that have been found guilty in a court of law and are called criminals. pseudonym67 Neural Dot Net Articles 1-11 Start Here[^] Fuzzy Dot Net Articles 1-3 Start Here[^]
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I've come across them before and how they are to be used by companies to be able to see not only what you buy but what the people who come into their stores by. The idea being that they can then stock their shops to reflect tastes of the types of customers that enter their stores. I thought that was scary enough. I know certain people on this site think that you should be completely open about your entire life but I just plain don't want private companies to not only be able to keep track of what I have bought but were I bought it from. What shops I entered wearing and how long I wore it for. It's just plain none of there business. I mean it's not like I invite the guy from the sandwich shop round my house when I'm gonna take a dump. The whole thing about using it as a security measure is really scary though "Theft will be drastically reduced because items will report when they are stolen, their smart tags also serving as a homing device toward their exact location." This means if you have an item equiped with this stuff your location can be traced at any time. At the moment in England this is only done through the use of an ankle strap device on people that have been found guilty in a court of law and are called criminals. pseudonym67 Neural Dot Net Articles 1-11 Start Here[^] Fuzzy Dot Net Articles 1-3 Start Here[^]
This is plain scary. My feeling in addition to what I have said before is that : - manufacturers are going to benefit a significant reduction cost, but won't make product prices lower than they are today. It's theft. - my hope is that by the time those thingies go mainstream, briliant people would make available counter-RFIDs that, when placed somewhere in your home, can make RFID cells useless. After all, the cells communicate through radio waves, so it must be possible to have a system using those radio waves to blur the information being transmitted. I am afraid that at this point we are _de facto_in the Big Brother Orwellian world. - in England matters are even worse, since I have hard a few intrusive things are already being used.
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...at least that's what I thought 20 years ago. Now I am so sad to here about RFID[^]s. And the real stuff behind RFID : overview[^], leaked[^] docs. PS : the future envisioned by some people is that RFIDs would not be disabled once customers are back home from their purchase, and RFIDs could silently communicate with other home devices to gather user profiles, and open a new breed of marketing opportunities. In lobbying documents that have leaked, it's already made clear that at some point, PCs could even use tiered web services and push information collected by RFIDs. Next time you hear a politician say "I want one PC in each home"...Ironically, that's what French prime minister said a month ago. I didn't get his point. You are fully entitled to dismiss this post as true paranoia if you like. But please make sure that, regardless of the topic itself, may be the most interesting point is the political approach, lobbies, and opinion manipulation. I am used to read technical docs, and I kind of refute "management" papers, those papers that explain how to handle bad situations, how to dismiss a person, etc. The leaked papers I refer to above are much worse than this, and are about the incremental techniques to put into practice in order to mentally manipulate persons and groups.
Surely the technology will benefit the retailers, mfg, and suppliers, but if those savings aren't reflected in consumer prices (which they surely won't be), then that's just wrong. I mean the spirit of the technology is OK, but after going through some of the leaked docs, it's consumer manipulation and artificial opinion forming by far. I think the docs should be made more mainstream. The sad thing is, I'm sure there are documents like this in many similar companies... X| - Nitron
"Those that say a task is impossible shouldn't interrupt the ones who are doing it." - Chinese Proverb
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This is plain scary. My feeling in addition to what I have said before is that : - manufacturers are going to benefit a significant reduction cost, but won't make product prices lower than they are today. It's theft. - my hope is that by the time those thingies go mainstream, briliant people would make available counter-RFIDs that, when placed somewhere in your home, can make RFID cells useless. After all, the cells communicate through radio waves, so it must be possible to have a system using those radio waves to blur the information being transmitted. I am afraid that at this point we are _de facto_in the Big Brother Orwellian world. - in England matters are even worse, since I have hard a few intrusive things are already being used.
I would probably start a website where people could send me their RFID tags taken out of products. Then I would cross the country placing loose RFID tags in vast quantities on random store shelves. Hey, if you can't beat 'em then pester the hell out of them. Maybe you could overload the system by bringing a box filled with the buggers into a store. That would be cool.
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...at least that's what I thought 20 years ago. Now I am so sad to here about RFID[^]s. And the real stuff behind RFID : overview[^], leaked[^] docs. PS : the future envisioned by some people is that RFIDs would not be disabled once customers are back home from their purchase, and RFIDs could silently communicate with other home devices to gather user profiles, and open a new breed of marketing opportunities. In lobbying documents that have leaked, it's already made clear that at some point, PCs could even use tiered web services and push information collected by RFIDs. Next time you hear a politician say "I want one PC in each home"...Ironically, that's what French prime minister said a month ago. I didn't get his point. You are fully entitled to dismiss this post as true paranoia if you like. But please make sure that, regardless of the topic itself, may be the most interesting point is the political approach, lobbies, and opinion manipulation. I am used to read technical docs, and I kind of refute "management" papers, those papers that explain how to handle bad situations, how to dismiss a person, etc. The leaked papers I refer to above are much worse than this, and are about the incremental techniques to put into practice in order to mentally manipulate persons and groups.
technology is neutral, it's people that pull triggers IMHO this is good example of trade-off between individual vs. group civil rights, which is needed to effectively deal with terrorism, which does seem to be increasing ? I'd rather not wait for smoking gun in the form of mushroom cloud counter-technologies are always be developed, like tanks vs. machine guns, radar vs. airplanes etc
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technology is neutral, it's people that pull triggers IMHO this is good example of trade-off between individual vs. group civil rights, which is needed to effectively deal with terrorism, which does seem to be increasing ? I'd rather not wait for smoking gun in the form of mushroom cloud counter-technologies are always be developed, like tanks vs. machine guns, radar vs. airplanes etc
greghop wrote: technology is neutral, it's people that pull triggers or in other words, technology is a mean to an end. What about freedom and human rights to privacy ? Do you remember that computing, mini-computing and now micro-computing were meant to free people from hard tasks? And now we are to leave in big brother land. This really sound like a bad joke. There is direct link with "terror" and RFID. RFID will be causing terror in our lives if it really does what it's supposed to do.