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  • C Corinna John

    The quesstion is: With which language do you have more experience? BTW: If you want to impress the people, I recommend PHP, because most people like it, and some of them could draw points from you for Microsoft solutions.

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    Nic Rowan
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    Corinna John wrote: some of them could draw points from you for Microsoft solutions Serious? Why would they do that?


    Despite the high cost of living, it remains popular. Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.


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      Hi ALL Iam doing my fourth year project and iam going to design a fantasy football game as a web service. I was just wondering what would be the best way to approach it. I was thinking of doing it with PHP & MySQL OR ASP.NET. What do yee think would be the best approach. Thanks Stephen

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      Navin
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      Guess it all comes down to money and what you know best. Do you know either language better than the other? Do you want to learn one language more than the other? ASP.NET of course will cost you money. You will have to find a way to host ASP.NET solutions (do you have access to this?) and of course get the necessary tools to develop them (VS.NET for instance.) But if you can afford them, the tools work very well. PHP, however, you can set up and use completely for free, you can even set up an Apache web server on your own machine if you want to test it out locally. You will probably end up coding/debugging in a text editor though, you'd be hard pressed to find an integrated development environment for PHP. So, like most things in life, it comes down to time and money. :) If your nose runs and your feet smell, then you're built upside down.

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        Guess it all comes down to money and what you know best. Do you know either language better than the other? Do you want to learn one language more than the other? ASP.NET of course will cost you money. You will have to find a way to host ASP.NET solutions (do you have access to this?) and of course get the necessary tools to develop them (VS.NET for instance.) But if you can afford them, the tools work very well. PHP, however, you can set up and use completely for free, you can even set up an Apache web server on your own machine if you want to test it out locally. You will probably end up coding/debugging in a text editor though, you'd be hard pressed to find an integrated development environment for PHP. So, like most things in life, it comes down to time and money. :) If your nose runs and your feet smell, then you're built upside down.

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        Nathan Ridley
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        Actually Dreamweaver MX supports syntactical highlighting for PHP, plus has ftp integration and all that stuff. I use it for my ASP (classic) scripting. Nice and powerful and much less convoluted than competing microsoft products. Plus the WYSIWYG HTML editor is much nicer than microsoft's crap. Why has noone except Macromedia come up with a decent GUI for editing HTML tables? NATHAN RIDLEY Web Application Developer generalgherkin@yahoo.com

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        • N Navin

          Guess it all comes down to money and what you know best. Do you know either language better than the other? Do you want to learn one language more than the other? ASP.NET of course will cost you money. You will have to find a way to host ASP.NET solutions (do you have access to this?) and of course get the necessary tools to develop them (VS.NET for instance.) But if you can afford them, the tools work very well. PHP, however, you can set up and use completely for free, you can even set up an Apache web server on your own machine if you want to test it out locally. You will probably end up coding/debugging in a text editor though, you'd be hard pressed to find an integrated development environment for PHP. So, like most things in life, it comes down to time and money. :) If your nose runs and your feet smell, then you're built upside down.

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          tidge
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          Navin wrote: ASP.NET of course will cost you money. You will have to find a way to host ASP.NET solutions (do you have access to this?) and of course get the necessary tools to develop them (VS.NET for instance.) Necessary tools to develop them? Notepad! Sure, visual studio is nice, but you don't need it. If you really want to learn some .Net, use a text editor for a while. Sure deveopment will be slow and some hair may be lost. But your understanding of .Net will be that much better in the end. As for hosting, hopefully your school will provide something. Otherwise, Navin is right. It'll cost you. There are some cheap places out there, though. Then again, cheap is a relative term....

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          • N Navin

            Guess it all comes down to money and what you know best. Do you know either language better than the other? Do you want to learn one language more than the other? ASP.NET of course will cost you money. You will have to find a way to host ASP.NET solutions (do you have access to this?) and of course get the necessary tools to develop them (VS.NET for instance.) But if you can afford them, the tools work very well. PHP, however, you can set up and use completely for free, you can even set up an Apache web server on your own machine if you want to test it out locally. You will probably end up coding/debugging in a text editor though, you'd be hard pressed to find an integrated development environment for PHP. So, like most things in life, it comes down to time and money. :) If your nose runs and your feet smell, then you're built upside down.

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            Jonathan de Halleux
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            Navin wrote: You will probably end up coding/debugging in a text editor though False, there are a number of good php specialized editors for free on the web : a 1 sec research on google: http://www.dzsoft.com/dzphp.htm[^] Jonathan de Halleux.
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            • B ballyduff

              Hi ALL Iam doing my fourth year project and iam going to design a fantasy football game as a web service. I was just wondering what would be the best way to approach it. I was thinking of doing it with PHP & MySQL OR ASP.NET. What do yee think would be the best approach. Thanks Stephen

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              Jon Sagara
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              I have used both, and I prefer ASP.NET. The current incarnation of PHP is not truly object-oriented. It uses variants to store information. It doesn't have access specifiers for classes. Inheritance is limited. OTOH, doing it in ASP.NET will force you to use a real OO language. The code-behind model, once you get used to it, is really very slick and very powerful. And, perhaps best of all, you get to use SQL Server. ;) [EDIT] Technically, you can use SQL Server with PHP, but most PHP/MySQL Web hosts don't include SQL Server as part of their packages. [/EDIT] If you want a relatively cheap host, I recommend WebHost4Life.com[^]. I have had excellent service so far. The only bad thing is that you have to pay for a year up front, but they will refund the balance of your money if you cancel before the year is up. Happy trails!

              Jon Sagara
              A bottle a night isn't alcoholism - it's persistence! -- A coworker, jokingly

              Latest Article: Breadcrumbs in ASP.NET

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                Corinna John wrote: some of them could draw points from you for Microsoft solutions Serious? Why would they do that?


                Despite the high cost of living, it remains popular. Build a man a fire, and he'll be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.


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                Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                Mostly because PHP forces you to design properly, while the typical VB6-programmer can get away with painting controls, adding some code and be done with it. I'd say PHP is probably better if you want understand the subject (webapps) better in general. However, for larger productions (i.e. professional solutions), ASP.NET is probably better since it has done the singlemost important thing for you; separation of presentation and logic. -- Only in english speaking countries: Schiessen = Scheissen. Every time Bush takes a dump, someone gets a bomb on their head. ;P

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                • J Jon Sagara

                  I have used both, and I prefer ASP.NET. The current incarnation of PHP is not truly object-oriented. It uses variants to store information. It doesn't have access specifiers for classes. Inheritance is limited. OTOH, doing it in ASP.NET will force you to use a real OO language. The code-behind model, once you get used to it, is really very slick and very powerful. And, perhaps best of all, you get to use SQL Server. ;) [EDIT] Technically, you can use SQL Server with PHP, but most PHP/MySQL Web hosts don't include SQL Server as part of their packages. [/EDIT] If you want a relatively cheap host, I recommend WebHost4Life.com[^]. I have had excellent service so far. The only bad thing is that you have to pay for a year up front, but they will refund the balance of your money if you cancel before the year is up. Happy trails!

                  Jon Sagara
                  A bottle a night isn't alcoholism - it's persistence! -- A coworker, jokingly

                  Latest Article: Breadcrumbs in ASP.NET

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                  Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                  Jon Sagara wrote: OTOH, doing it in ASP.NET will force you to use a real OO language. Yes, but it doesn't force you to do OO. You can write VB6-esque spaghetti code if you really want. :) -- Only in english speaking countries: Schiessen = Scheissen. Every time Bush takes a dump, someone gets a bomb on their head. ;P

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                  • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

                    Jon Sagara wrote: OTOH, doing it in ASP.NET will force you to use a real OO language. Yes, but it doesn't force you to do OO. You can write VB6-esque spaghetti code if you really want. :) -- Only in english speaking countries: Schiessen = Scheissen. Every time Bush takes a dump, someone gets a bomb on their head. ;P

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                    Jon Sagara
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                    Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: You can write VB6-esque spaghetti code if you really want. Touché. But if he does, he should get an F. :-D

                    Jon Sagara
                    A bottle a night isn't alcoholism - it's persistence! -- A coworker, jokingly

                    Latest Article: Breadcrumbs in ASP.NET

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                    • J Jon Sagara

                      Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote: You can write VB6-esque spaghetti code if you really want. Touché. But if he does, he should get an F. :-D

                      Jon Sagara
                      A bottle a night isn't alcoholism - it's persistence! -- A coworker, jokingly

                      Latest Article: Breadcrumbs in ASP.NET

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                      ballyduff
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                      Thanks for all your help it is much appreicated. I will look into the hosting issue as i dont know if the college will host it. I have VS.Net so that is not an issue so depending on the hosting i will proberly go for asp.net. If get stuck in the future i will be giving yee a shout Thanks a Million Stephen ;) ->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->->-> "Police arrested two kids yesterday, one was drinking battery acid, the other was eating fireworks. They charged one and let the other one off." Tommy Cooper

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