that's not funny, I mainly do COBOL. It makes me sad to think about how this would be done in COBOL.

"If you really want something in this life, you have to work for it. Now, quiet! They're about to announce the lottery numbers..." - Homer Simpson

cynthia_1968 wrote:

”; ?> While in ASP the same script would be : <%@ Page Language="C#" Debug="true" %> <% Response.Write("Hello world:

"); %>

Perhaps it is my own ignorance, but I was under the impression that in php you had to include html tags as well, making this an inflated argument against ASP. "echo" and "Response.Write" are essentially the same, in practice, with their obvious syntactical differences. There are a whole slue of other things that do along with Response that make the relative length of the command justifiable. While I respect your opinion of ASP being crap I wouldn't pin the not-working-on-anything-other-than-IE on the development environment, that's just poor coding. I see stuff written in php that only works on firefox. In almost every instance it's because of javascript, and the developer's lack of finding a cross-browser way of accomplishing the same feat. Moreover, I don't care about flexibility. In my full time job I spend about 50% of my time in COBOL(with the remaining half in ASP/VBScript), so when I get into an environment with any objects or being able to write a function for anything that I have done more than once, it's all gravy to me. I don't think any one development language is any better than another, it simply depends on what you are trying to do and how familiar you are with it. That being said, I am still learning php and ASP.NET because I am a new programmer and still can't get enough of learning new things.

"If you really want something in this life, you have to work for it. Now, quiet! They're about to announce the lottery numbers..." - Homer Simpson

I for one am a mathematician turned programmer (albeit 18 months ago). Now, my field of study was Number Theory, but I don't do any cryptography so there goes all my training out the door, right? No. My ability to solve problems (not just math problems) is one of my greatest skills, a skill I learned while studying mathematics. I have actually used some set theory for DB2, but mostly, no math. My take on the stereotypes is that it just comes down to ignorance. Not the, "I run into doors" style of ignorance, but the classical "just don't know enough". People think that because I have degrees in math that I must be able to add quickly in my head. It's the common misconception that mathematics is the same as arithematic. There's so much more than that, but people just don't know. How many of us have become the familial tech services representative, even though we are not hardware people. I think I suck at trying to troubleshoot people's computers. However, my sucking is still better than a lot of family member's best shots. I imagine that programmers are (on average) better at mathematics than the average non-programmer. That is how stereotypes come into being.

"If you really want something in this life, you have to work for it. Now, quiet! They're about to announce the lottery numbers..." - Homer Simpson

I thought you were on to something there. However, I killed NAV and still no go. I was just hoping to be able to view the ASP page (which I didn't write) while I rewrote what I saw in .NET. Instead, I opted just to read the source and go from there. Just not worth the headache. Thanks anyway.

Okay, before you accuse me of saying that I should have looked around better let me say that I already have ASP.NET working perfectly, no problems with ASP.NET pages. However, I'm trying to get a plain old ASP site to come up on the same server to no avail. I have confirmed that I have the asp.dll file, and I have registered it. I can display a simple index.htm from this folder, so IIS can actually see this folder. Any suggestions?

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Okay, so I'm very new to C# (and to programming in general for that matter), but I've come across this idea of boxing and unboxing that seems completely odd. In my understanding, it is a shell game of sorts between a referenced type and a value type. It seems to me that this might save in resources, and that it is similar to casting in C, but it is unclear to me. If anyone could give a reason as to why someone would want to use this technique, I would be very grateful. "If you really want something in this life, you have to work for it. Now, quiet! They're about to announce the lottery numbers..." - Homer Simpson