I guess I am something of an expert in marketing because I have made many fortunes marketing software. Here is what I have learned... you start with marketing by creating an app that has a name and functionality that is self promotng so that news sites will write free articles about your interesting app. Select an app that will only take a few days to write at most. Never buy any advertsing! Market your app using free write-ups and Per Inquiry (P.I.). Per Inquiry is done by every media source and the key to per inquiry is know how to talk to those media sources. I have sold hundreds of millions of dollars in one year for just one of my apps like an educational game app I wrote that grossed $486 million in the first year and most of that was profit. I have no courses or products to sell you but I am happy to share what has worked for me for free. :)

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Andrew Brock gave you a textbook answer. What I am trying to explain is that teh textbooks are WRONG and all the design model examples are wrong in that they only deal with a single client connecting or multiple clients where the data is the same for each client and only a little data is passed. The simple answer is this: The ip address can be same BUT the port number must change for each client that connects if you want the system to be practical. This means that you create a console app with a minimum amount of memory as the server and launch a new instance of this for each client that connects so that each client is connecting on a different port number. For example, I wrote a camera wall recently for the U.S. government and their specs stated that you may NOT use threads--that you must create a new instance of the server for each client connection. The reason for this is so that if one client goes down it will not take the whole system down. Each client uses the same ip address but has a unique port number. Andrew Brock's answer is a textbook answer which doesn't apply to teh real world. Get real Anrew!

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Your question is an excellent question. Most books and articles that talk about sockets FAIL to explain this and question goes to the heart of all real world examples of writing socket code. I will answer your question with a real world example that I worked on recently. Let's say that you want to show stock data about a stock or group of stocks that changes every second in a web page and that the source of this data is some TCP server that you would connect to and receive a callback from every second in the form of strings. So let's say the user select a stock symbol like "IBM" and wants to see the price and volume traded of IBM stock in their web browser every second. Another user might want to see the value of a different stock symbol like "ACL" for Alcon, Inc. How many IP addresses and Ports we would need? As you know we must use web Sockets to connect from a web page to a TCP Server--BUT there is another problem--none of the stock alert data servers have implemented the Web Sockets protocol handshake so we will need a web socket proxy between the web page and the Data Server. There are 2 samples of web Sockets Servers posted here on CodeProject that we can use. If we put the ip address and port INSIDE the web page and connect to a Web Sockets Server then that web sockets server must spin off a thread that will in side each thread open a TCP connection to Data Server on a given ip address and port. The data from the thread received from the data server will be sent to the web socket server and then back to the client web browser that requested the data and NOT to any other browsers. Each browser on connecting to the web socket server passes in a "settings string" like say the stock symbol so that 2,000 different web browsers would see different data for 2,000 different stock symbols where each browser would have a datagrid displaying say hundreds of rows of stock data per second for that one symbol they requested. When you set up this scenario--trial and error are good ways to learn socket programming--you will quickly realize that the amount of data that the web sockets data has to return is huge and the Data Server is passing the data for all 2,000 connected web browsers back to one place, namely the web sockets server--you could write a queue manager but that can't handle this kind of volume. Here is the solution and answer to you question. You create a web service to return different port numbers to the web page. The web page sits on the server along with your web sockets server so the web page will f

Hi, I accidentally typed in the wrong url for codeproject and found this website: http://www.codeprojet.com It is pretty obvious that they created that name to get traffic from people who mistype the codeproject domain.... very unethical in my opinion and I hope they get shutdown... Under United States federal law it is a felony to create a "mispelled domain" to get traffic in such a manner... Just a warning to everyone since that website is filled with popups and God only knows what else! Bill

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I was referring to you! Bill SerGio

What this site's artwork needs is more x-rated, adult pictures! and, of course, to ban some of the morons who seems to hang around here! Bill SerGio

I recently had the same problem and to amke matters worst the client's ISP did not allow you to create virtual directpries! The ONLY solution that seemed to work waws to place ALL of the user control into the application's root directory instead oof into a subdirectory called "controls"... The controls were placed always at the same level or in directories BELOW the one the aspx files were in and this solved the problem. Bill SerGio

Here is how such litigation actually works in court... you CAN provide false information PROVIDED you have no intention to defraud or commit a crime... It is obvious that a little knowledge is a dangerous thing... That has already been reviewed by the supreme Court and they found that criminal penalty may be accessed by any state or federal power UNLESS there is a clear intent to defraud or commit a crime. I love selling my products on TV to you guys... I bet most of you have bought something from one of my TV shows at some time! Bill SerGio

Let's hope that YOU go away! I bet you are still working for a living like a peasant.... Instead of making your own way with your own business... Bill SerGio

No, there is no "law" either state or federal that makes it a crime to enter "false" information on any website... There are existing state and federal laws that define 2 types of "fraud" which are defined in law as "Civil Fraud" and "Criminal Fraud".... Civil Fraud is where you commited fraud but not intentionally and Criminal Fraud is where you INTENTIONALLY commited fraud. As an example, I have an attorney write a written legal opinion letter that states that all of my advertising claims are clearly substantiated by the documentation on file in the attorney's office and I do this BEFORE I release an ad or an infomercial... in this case I have done my Due Diligence BEFORE releasing the ad or infomercial so that I can ONLY be charged with Civil Fraud and NOT Criminal Fraud... Almost everly infomercial that has ever been on TV has been indicated for CIVIL FRAUD because this is the federal trade commission's policy ... and then you "negotaite" your ad changes and pay a fine or give the government its cut of your action... and continue to air your ad or infomercial... Remember that when you get a Written Legal Opinion Letter from an attorney you must use an attorney who is an expert in FTC law and you can't let the attorney write some crap like "the ad claims are defensible..." as opposed to "clearly substantiated.." because "defensible" simply means that you can hire this piece of crap of an attorney to defend you AFTER you are criminally indicated! Many attorneys will try to TRAP their clients into a worthless legal opinion letter with the hopes that the client will be indicated so the attprney can make more money by defending the client... Bill SerGio, The Infomercial King:) Bill SerGio

The porno consists of over 650,000 pornographic films made using only the men, women and children in the concentration camps. These films shows acts of violence and sexual degradtion beyond what you can imagine. The Nazi hide many of their films of their secret weapons research amnong these porno films assuming the library would be destroyed by the invading armies. But for some reason--unknown to me, the German government kept the library with the permission of General MacArthur and there are a number of government documents referring to this that I have seen in the last few years. Around 1991, the U.S. government issued a federal license to allow this archive to come to America---possession of such films would otherwise constitute both a federal and state crime(read the porno laws) without a license and exemption under the "archive laws" that allow possession of otherwise illegal materials--where do you think the police store the porno they confiscate??? The police and F.B.I. store the porno they confiscate in federal archives--companies issued a license to store such crap! The MacArthur film library was issued a federal permit and can be traced by any SERIOUS researcher tracking the permits issued. When I last saw the films, there were in San Francisco, CA. Over 650,000 films! GOD BLESS AMERICA! Frankly, I would hope a responsible reporter would do a story and that the archive would be given to Israel. That's is ALL I am going to say on this subject. Bill SerGio

I really did not want to discuss this topic. I wrote that article because I felt I had to... The Germans produced over 650,000 pornographic films shot on 16mm and 35mm. The ONLY actors in these porno films were the Jewish prisoners in the concentration camps and they certainly did NOT do it because they wanted to! I think the german government should have turned these 650,000 films over to Israel and let Israel decide what to do with them--instead, in 1991, this heinous library was sent to America with the permission of the U.S. government for safe keeping. You can read about these porno films--the library has the nickname "The MacArthur Library" after the general who allowed the Germans to keep these films. I have a background as a translator of German scientific papers--an "expert" of sorts and all I did was some translation that dealt with acceleration of "charged plasmas" in toroidoil coils at high velocity--films showed craft that flew with no visible means of thrust. That's all folks! Bill SerGio

THAT'S RIGHT! THE COPS ARE THE BAD GUYS TO THE GUY WHO TAKES HOSTAGES! SO YOU WANT TO GET ON HIS GOOD SIDE! GOD BLESS YOU!:rose: Bill SerGio

One more thing... WANT vs, NEEDS I want a Rolls Royce... but I am going to buy a Ford! See my point?:cool: Bill SerGio

:cool:In response to comment by Michael... I sold a course on TV that was very successful and based on a Hostage Negotiation Training Program used exclusively by the F.B.I. and Secret Service and the MAIN principle of this hostage negotiation course explained that you DO NOT GIVE the person holding a hostage what they "WANT"--NEVER! You find out what they NEED and give then what they NEED and NOT what they WANT. I thought this subtle distinction was strange myself between "WANT" vs. "NEED" but it is the first principle in every hostage negotiation manual. For example, the guy holding hostages might say "I want an airplane and a million dollars!".. but he will never get this and the hostage negotiator is trained to NEVER say yes to this! The correct approach according to every hostage manual is to determine what the person needs--a good lawyer for example, and offer ONLY that instead which works. When the guy says, " I want a million dollars and an airplane.." You say, "SO DO I!" but look at those guys in green over there--they are the SWAT team and they are not going to give me a million dolars and an airplane--so what do you think your chances are? They want to shoot you and the hostages--because they are really nuts! Let's talk about what I CAN GET FOR YOU? I can get you a NEW attorney that can get the charges dropped for kiddnapping... etc...." This is the approach---to give the consumer what they NEED and NOT what they SAY they WANT. In creating software, it is not what the user SAYS they "Want " that is what you need to start with--you must start with what they "NEED." People always buy based on what they need and not what they want! Bill SerGio

It is true that my comments can, on occassion, be brash and irritating--sometimes unintentionally and sometimes intentionally. In reality, I am a very down to earth person who doesn't really think he is any better or smarter than anyone else--I am justy family man earning a living and what I emjoy most is my family! Your subtle undertones in the way you talk about "marketing" and software tells me that you really donb't think much about marketing at all. Here is my point... when I first got into marketing I thought I had all the answers and I soon learned that I was WRONG! Then I started to do focus groups and quickly learned that most people do NOT think as I do--what people like and respond to is very different than what you might think they do--a focus group is one way to get REAL information about people and software. In some of the focus groups I did on software I was amzed that people used criteria to evaluate software that has NOTHING to do with coding or how well a program works or is written--they might decide to download a program becvause it is green instead of gray--and this is what I believe a programmer must address MORE than the coding! If you know that a red colored background will mean nobody will use your software then you must select the most popular color and not the color you like! In designing "give-away" programs for clients, I have read all of the studies on why people use one program over another and it amazes me that most programmers look down their noses at you when you talk about this! :eek: Bill SerGio

This is a comment from Bill SerGio. It seems that a few of the programmers who frequent this website simply do not like me, and I wanted to say a few things about that. But I do share some things in common with those who seem to dislike me so much. All of us love programming and we derive a sense of accomplishment from writing code that works. Most of you work for some company and a few, like me, own their own businesses. It takes a very different mentality and view of life to be your own boss--it doesn't make you smarter or better--it is just different. I look at programming as a way to make money. I don't approach programming in the same way that programmers who work for a company would. I write an AD for a program first. An ad that would sell the benefits of that program--what will it do for the user... and I focus on what I know people really buy like Greed, Vanity, Houses, and Fear of God... Then I design the user interface--stricly from the point of view of giving the user the illusion that the program is easy, great and will give them a lot of benefits. This has NOTHING to do with writing code! The code is that LAST thing I write, and it is just to make the buttons work. My approach is what works for me in my business and is no better or worse than anyone else's approach that works for them in what they do. I would point out that, without MARKETING, few programmers would have a job. It seems to me that the marketing of software is AS important as the writing of it and really can't be separated. When you sit down to write a programmer, it seems only logical that you have FIRST developed the marketing plan for it and that you coce th eprogram to fit that marketing plan. I have gotten many emails from people who frequent this site and have enjoyed the articles I have posted. The others, well, empty barrels make the most noise! .:cool: Bill SerGio

I posted an article on how to set the dropdown width of html combo boxes in web pages without using the DOM. It shows how to get the handle to any HTML object and then how to manipulate that object directly through the handle without using COM. It allows you to create a combo box in a web page using an image and et the dropdown width to anything you want as an example--this can't be done from Javascript alone! It shows this using a very cool skin that is just a web page. Bill SerGio, The Infomercial King

I fixed the links to the article I posted and I just wanted to say that the demo I posted is VERY IMPRESSIVE and really worth looking at! It shows you how to reset properties of HTML elements like SELECT tags using the HANDLES to these objects rather than the DOM crap that most programmers use! And it shows another way to create skins that is VERY COOL indeed... Hi, to my fan club!:) Bill SerGio, The Infomercial King

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