ROFL:laugh:

The world of the beginner is not an easy one. But we do need them! BiTN

I got the new pc, but the problem is getting the R1000 for a version. :-D The world of the beginner is not an easy one. But we do need them! BiTN

I dont know what the extras added. I can at least say that it is not that expensive anymore. MS got soft on 3rd world countries and made it cheaper. It now costs around R1700 ($1 ~ R7). But I believe the South African gov is ripping us off with the tax :) The world of the beginner is not an easy one. But we do need them! BiTN

I wont really say impossible to speculate. I've already read in a mag that the "home edition" would be the same price as the xp home. Just a speculation, but still. I was just wondering what other ppl would say. :cool: The world of the beginner is not an easy one. But we do need them! BiTN

I was just thinking (normally just a lot of crap) and was thinking about windows Vista. There is a lot of Hype over the program and I was just wondering what the cost will be. That is the one thing that makes a success of one idea and breaks the next. I'm a South African resident (born there - and NO - the Lions dont cross the streets - it is safe :-D )and with our weak economy we are entitled to ask this question, since ms windows xp pro cost us a wopping R 5000 to R 7000 since it came out. The home edition cost around R3500 (current trade is 1$ = ~R7). A few years down the line did reduce the cost, but vista is going to be brand new (Thus the analogy). Could we expect to pay R 15000 (ok - maybe I'm exagerating - but still). What do you think? PS. I have not gone through all the entries to see if there was an article already writen about this topic, thus gimme a link if neccessary. The world of the beginner is not an easy one. But we do need them!Yes, it means I'm a nOob! - BiTN

Also just an example - I could have said any frequency. I'm working with x-rays. Maybe ghosts are x-rays? :-D The world of the beginner is not an easy one. But we do need them! BiTN

If a ghost is infra red, then yes. Ppl wont see it and the camera will. But such "measurements" should be carefully taken, because a warm object also gives off infra red. There may even be a possiblity that a "ghost" could be seen in the ultra voilet region, which the eye also cannot detect. But one must be careful of a dust cloud, or something similar, doesn't scatter the ultravoilet and create something that could be mistaken for a ghost. I'm not an expert on what materials scatter ultravoilet, but I believe there should be a lot. The world of the beginner is not an easy one. But we do need them! BiTN

1: Light is electromagnetic energy. 2: Our eyes can detect it. 3: Cameras can also detect it. conclusion: If ghost are real and we, as a human being, can see it without any strange artificial means, then, yes the camera should also work and you could take a picture of a ghost. Points of caution: The mind is v-e-r-y powerful. It can make believe. You know there is ppl in mental hospitals that actually have non-existing friend. Some of them think the fridge is going to gobble him. Also, social experiences can be devastating (I cant spell, soz) to one's mind. People in the right crowd will believe they are healed, but the next day he finds that he is not. How to test for possible mind numbing experiences: Take a picture. If its in the pic, then its not your mind. If you can't take a picture, ask a friend? If your friend admits it, let him draw a picture independantly from you. If it compares, theres a big possibility, but it is not conclusive. If no friend -> act temporarily insane :-D . Truth: A woman had a nightmare every nigth in which she fell in a big black hole to her death. After being hipnotized, the psycoligist (I need help with spelling) found that she was dreaming about a small hole on her carpet. This story just shows you how powerful the subconcious is. Just remember: enjoy life PS: sorry for the long reply and yes: I'm a scientist and an atheist The world of the beginner is not an easy one. But we do need them! BiTN