Thats terrible! What has our world come to

Good advice. You have to be very careful because you never know what people will try and sue you for.

He reminds me of Johnny #5 from short circuit Johnny #5[^]

I go through this everyday. The project I am working on was put together by a few developers that just had the attitude of get it working and worry about the rest later. The management throws around the word refactor for everything. They always say oh we will just refactor it later. Well the crap code piled up so high that it started causing hugh problems. They built it with out a solid design, commented nothing and they copied and pasted the same code in multiple classes all of the places, tons of hard coding and no oo design (they had no idea how to use inheritance or polymorphism). My initial roll on the team as the junior developer was to just help the senor guys out. Well 6 months later they fired both senor guys because everything they wrote started to break and I am stuck writing in this mess all day long. Its so bad I really don't like having my name associated with the mess. I go home sick to my stomach some days. Not to mention that sometimes I feel like I am not learning anything and I am starting to become a worse developer because of this mess. So after my rant I would say yes bad uncommented simple code leads to bad uncommented compiled code.

Thanks, I could really use this.

It looks really cool. I may have to try it out one weekend :)

We shouldn't assume something's debugged just because everyone in the whole world has access to the source code.

Christopher Duncan wrote:

The corporate music industry is exactly what people think it is. If you think they screw you guys, you should see the deal that musicians get. Unfortunately, most people don't do the math. If we're getting screwed by the industry already, and then people screw the industry, we get it twice as bad.

I never really believed this until I heard Sugar Ray doing an interview on the radio. They were saying how they make like 8 cents per cd sold or something like that. It was really crazy. They also said that a lot of the money they make comes from tours. I also agree that something has to be done to stop the p2p sharing, I just don't know how it can be done. I also think alot of the music downloads happen because it does not "feel" like you are doing anything wrong. Part of me thinks we are in to deep and may not be able to go back.

We shouldn't assume something's debugged just because everyone in the whole world has access to the source code.

I agree with your statements. Most people try to find as much music to download for free. I did this for a long time and I have seen the error in my ways. Now I always purchase a cd and then I will put the cd on my ipod. I don't trade any music that I put on my ipod or go and download music from different sites. Most of the time if I am unsure about any music I always listen to samples on Amazon. I still see a few issues with the music industry. I have read a bunch of articles saying the record companies believe we should pay for every place we want to play our music. I also have a problem with downloading from iTunes because they try to control how many times you can copy the song. I am not looking to distribute my music but I don't think its fair to pay for multiple copies of the same cd/song. As usual I think the truth lies somewhere in the middle. The record labels are greedy and want everyone to pay for each place you can play the music and "the people" are looking to get music for free.

We shouldn't assume something's debugged just because everyone in the whole world has access to the source code.

I also live in North Jersey and depending on the weekend I would be interested. Keep us posted!

We shouldn't assume something's debugged just because everyone in the whole world has access to the source code.

I can not work at all with out my music. Mainly for two reasons. Like you said it helps keep me focused and acts as a catalyst. I just get so much more done. The second reason is that I do not have a cube and I work on a trading floor so everything is wide open. My office is very noisy and loud so it makes it very hard to concentrate. If anyone needs me they always just tap me on the shoulder, I never have an issue with someone saying I look to busy to be bothered. I don't think I would be nearly as good a worker with out them.

We shouldn't assume something's debugged just because everyone in the whole world has access to the source code.

Mark Nischalke wrote:

Had meeting with my manager in which he said I don't care if my developers don't document their code or if one can't pick up where the other left off. I just want them to write code faster to keep the client happy.

Sounds like my office. When I first started working I asked for the documentation and they said the code was the documentation!

Jersey. I am about 30 miles outside of NYC.

I will look to see if you guys are playing on my way to the ferry. This week is not good for me but I will keep it in mind. Thanks for the invite!! :)

Thats what I figured but wanted to put it out there anyway. I would be interested in your weekly games since I work in NYC, but I am not much of a soccer player. I work with a few guys that play soccer and live in NYC so I will ask around and post something when if anyone knows of anything. Thats funny that you are trying to get a game there. I work right around the corner and take a walk around that park almost everyday :)

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Do you live in NYC? I ask because I have a cousin that plays in a soccer league but its in North Jersey. I know of a place in Teaneck New Jersey also that has an indoor soccer league. Let me know if you are looking for anything outside NYC.

Thanks Tillman!

I am not sure why it said my email was not verified. I will have to see if it is something in my settings. Thanks for the feed back!!

I thought this was a cool link.... Root DNS locations[^]

Thanks for your responses! They have been very insightful.

Do you have the same feeling about open source 3rd party tools? I also try not to use designers for the same reason, I try to separate the layers. For instance I built a table that I use for a lot of different things, yet I see tons of different table implementations out there. I was just not willing to bend and wanted to build the table myself. Then I sit and wonder could I have saved time just by using one of the tables out there. I found a 3rd party Gui set (open source) that has a bunch of cool Gui utilities and I want to try and use some of them but then I feel like I am cheating myself by not writing it myself. Ugh, I just go in circles. So I take it you end up just writing most of the Gui's yourself?