I still like 2008 the best, myself, but I moved to 2017 a year or so ago. Doesn't seem inordinately distracting, maybe the OP is talking the 2019 version (as others have said).
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A poor craftsman blames his tools. Javascript (or any language) is as good or bad as the developer using it. You can paint yourself in a corner using any language the only difference is the color of the paint! Sorry guys, but tell me that ain't the truth. ;-)
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For the longest time it was around $89/month for 100M connection (with no data limits). Lately they're charging about $65 for the same thing. We're out beyond the suburbs which might explain that. Our provider always extremely reliable so I don't mind the $65, we don't pay for any of the other TV services.
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Well, I'm all for keeping things as simple as possible when developing code but "dumbing it down" by avoiding the use of a technology that might help keep it simple, or retroactively doing it just so that some junior developer could understand it ... no.
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.jpg wrote:
char is a type and c is a name, to me, it always make more sense to put the name alone and have the type together, like "char* c", I can tell immediately that it is a pointer to a char, so its always goes like [type] [name]. But in contrast, most C/C++ code I found prefer the other way around, like "char *c". Is there any specific reasons why this is so?
My guess is that most C programmers hail from the K&R (Kernighan and Ritchie) days and I believe that char *c is the form they would have used. (I lost my dear old K&R years ago). Beyond that, it's probably just personal habit.
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How many here remember when it first came out? I saw it when it first showed in the "Cinerama" in Fresno California.
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You know, if you're not married to the Microsoft development stack you might consider checking out a product called NSBasic. (www.nsbasic.com). They have a product with a nice IDE that emits javascript code that will run on just about any device out there. It's not expensive, either. All you need is a Windows machine (or even a Mac if that's your flavor) to run it. I have produced a few simple apps with it that were easy to load on the machines. I think you can even produce App Store deliverables with it. Check it out ... it might be what yer after. -CM
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Back in 1976 I took a FORTRAN course at Georgia Tech. The first time I saw that I could make a machine do THAT the lid was off. I was hooked on it and still am.
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Geez Louise! I'll stick with WinForms, myself. 5 or 6 lines of code (depending on how you fetch the last edit date, obviously) max. Even on a WebForm it's pretty simple. Adding to list of technologies to avoid: MVC. Got it.
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You're joking, right? (Tough to tell in a text-only message).
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(To the OP) ... Don't listen to these coding snobs ... VB (particularly the .Net version) is a fine language. -CM
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The thing about it is that WinForms applications aren't ugly, the data presentation can be very attractive and meaningful. In my case I've found that having a GUI so well worked out lets me focus on the problem-at-hand instead of spending all my time struggling to get the GUI working right. I have a web-based version of program I wrote for WinForms, it's fun to hack on from time-to-time but just getting the output right consumes a lot more time. I am certainly not against web-based presentation if needed, however if a WinForms application can do the job, the performance is far better and results very consistent. As for WPF (or any of the other cute technologies for desktop GUI) ... it's "hand waving" as far as I'm concerned.
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Eddy Vluggen wrote:
I build tools for people that work. They don't care about flashy, they care about reliability and predictability. I'm not paid for animated borders, but functionality - and will probably still be maintaining WinForms code by the time that our great overloads predicted that AI will write code.
Absolutely agree. I’ve played with some of the newer GUI technologies myself and keep finding that the mature WinForms technology is the way to go. It might not be considered “flashy” but sure is reliable and gets the job DONE.
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Cornelius Henning wrote:
I took their advice. I bought a Canon scanner and took a solemn oath never to buy HP again. :mad:
[Soapbox Mode ON] I don't think it's limited to HP, honestly. They are all planning obsolescence into their products (this is nothing new and it's not just the computer industry). I have a nice little Canon photo printer which is really simple but isn't supported by any Windows > 7. That's OK, I went on to eBay and bought a 2nd one (that was still new in the box) which sits waiting for the first one to die and I've stopped upgrading my network past Windows 7. Enough of this crap. I don't have a problem "upgrading" a piece of equipment if it actually breaks or something (or there's a feature of the new one I just HAVE to have) but this upgrading every 2 or 3 years just to upgrade is nonsense. I got better things to do than constantly re configuring my network just so it can have the "latest and greatest" when everything works perfectly as-is. [Soapbox Mode OFF] -CM
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Yup. I believe the latest buzzword today is "full stack" developer. Sorry, I don't buy that designation AT ALL. You could re-brand that "jack of all trades, master of none". I'm sorry, but the designation is pure B.S. I've been developing code for 40 years and I think I've developed some good proficiency in that time and know a few good technologies to use in my development. My code gets answers and it runs FAST. (I've had more than one employer ask me in an incredulous tone "why does your stuff run so fast"?). Er, maybe it's because I don't haul in a couple of gigs of library code to run my executables... I don't even apply for positions that are looking for "full stack" developers because, IMHO, they are completely disillusioned as to what software development is really about. I believe that would be ... solving problems? Full stack ... seriously?
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I can write code as well as you, you young whipper-snapper! (I'm 59). The only issue with me is that I need lots of naps! ;-)
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Tomz_KV wrote:
Not until programming becomes as simple as pointing and clicking
The day may come sooner than we expect.
Yeah, yeah, yeah ... they've been saying that for years. True, there's a lot more that you can do with point-and-click than you used to but as soon as you have to customize the model, guess what, someone is going to have to write some code. -CM
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There are some applications (I use Serif Web Plus X8) check that out. If you're talking a web application (I. E. program) you're talking a whole different beast. I've fiddled around with developing applications on the web for years using ASP.Net and stuff like that but I haven't gotten really serious with it, I don't think I have the mental bandwidth any more that it would take to know 40 different frameworks, languages ... yadda, yadda. I still build primarily WinForms applications. Sounds like a web-page builder application (like I said, Serif or "Dream Weaver" or whatever they have nowadays) is your best bet. -CM
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The elitist among us would say that we're "living in the past". OK, so I'm living in the past. I'm also crying all-the-way to the bank. ;-)
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PIEBALDconsult wrote:
My newest are circa 2008. But no way am I going to put Win 10 on either of them.
All my equipment and software are circa 2008 (Windows 7, Visual Studio, etc.). My personal opinion is that we were at a technology "sweet spot" then. I see absolutely no reason to upgrade my development tools or my equipment. As far as the equipment goes, I simply went to SSD for primary storage and added a little RAM. I'm good for the duration as far as PC software development goes.
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