Whe have a huge application developed all in C#. Is a SFA solution, that has a Windows Mobile app (.Net Compact Framework 3.5 SP 1), a Desktop administration app (.Net Framework 3.5 SP 1), and a Web Service (.Net Framework 3.5 SP 1). It's operating with more than 100 devices (including pocket pc's and desktop pc's). .Net is simply great :D (PS: sorry about my bad english, I'm from Argentina) fisa (fisa.net@hotmail.com)

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LOL, not the Wikipedia article. The article of the newsletter, where an expert says that the iPhone is the best portable computer

I'm not making predictions. The author of the article does (the Apple future portable pc...) I'm saying that today, the iPhone is not the "better" portable pc, like the author says. Today there are other devices that are far better in other aspects that are not the design and the easy of use...

Read the article, and you will know that the autor is not talking about that kind of computers...

you didn't understand me well. I'm talking about bussines apps, with a lot of work load. On that cases, a pocket pc offers proccesing capability, and mobility. I'm not saying that is a "better computer". I wanted to say that is better on a bussines app ambient. And Palm is becoming a new hardware vendor, they have released some Palm models that are pocket pcs, and started some bussines aliances with Microsoft.

if i could say it on spanish, i would be easy to you to understand what i want to say... I'm talking about personal computers, those used to store your files, use apps for work and fun, etc.

I agree :-D

LOL, it remembers me a talk about Vista... Ok, you are right, a computer is good when it do what you need it to do. So my opinion would be: the iPhone is a great computer, for common users. For better and more complex functions, a pocket pc is a better computer. Do you agree with that? (if it where a spanish forum, i could talk better, and have the correct words to say what i want to say...)

welll, i didn't know that i could run Apache on an iPhone, that's great. Sorry, so the iPhone CAN run real apps... but were do you read that? I have an iPhone here (for testing), and will be grat to do that. But still is very less than the fuctions of a pocket pc, i think.

Is a computer because is CAPABLE to do that, even if you want to use it like a stone to keep your door open... And the types of software are a sign of the capabilityes of the device. You can't have acces to the ports opens on an iPhone, because that, you can't mount any kind of server application. If you want to make so easy to classify something like "computer", the best computer can be the TV, the telephone, the planes, cars, my watch, or anything that has a chip. I'm talking about the common concept of wat is a computer. The same concept that the article's author is talking.

I agree with you. The problem is that the article defends the iPhone like the best or unique portable computer of today. I think that if we want to compare, it has a lot of things less than other real portable computers. That's my opinion.

First, the iPhone has an FTP CLIENT, no FTP Server (with a server, i can acces my pocket pc from any pc with internet). Second, it doesn't run a SQL Lite. It has an SQL Lite CLIENT, so it can connect to an SQL Lite database that is NOT IN THE DEVICE. On a pocket pc you have the SQL Server ON THE DEVICE. The database and the server are on de pocket pc. And a portable computer can run other OS, not only Windows. There are a lot of portable computers that run portable versions of Linux, for example some models of Nokia. And you are right, IS A CELLPHONE. The problem is that the article says that is the best portable pc!! it is only a cellphone!!! Finally, there are only "little" apps for iPhone. For pocket pc's, there are clients for ERP's like SAP. That is a real app, like an app of a computer, and not a "tiny" app for cellphones.

The difference is on the functions that it has. Is more like a cellphone than a pc, only has the basics. A Windows Mobile device has Word, Exel, Power Point, Msn, push-mail, etc, only with the OS. And there are thousands of apps to install on it, like a pc. I have a FTP Server (NO FTP client, FTP SERVER) running on my pocket pc! And a SQL CE Server too! Do that with an iPhone... The iPhone has only the functions of a good cellphone, nothing more.

LOL, great! I know a spanish version, from Frikipedia :laugh:

Hello! I read the last daily news, and i'm very ungry about one of the articles, that called "10 broken technology ideas -- and how to fix them". The first point talks abaut portable pc's. After reading it, i'm fully convinced that someone that knows nothing about that wrote this article! (i guess that he knows a lot about other things, but no about portable devices) Apple iPhone a "computer"??? It's only a beautifull cellphone, has nothing more than that!!!! And talk about smartphones, pocket pcs and UMPC's like they were all the same thing?? They are complete different worlds!! Being an expert in this topic, i must give you my opinion: - Smartphones: cellphones with something more, the future of massive communication devices, for the common people (the iPhone is here). Some pocket pcs are in the massive category too, with great innovative interfaces, like the HTC Touch, that have a lot more functions than an iPhone, are cheaper, and easy to use. - Pocket Pcs and similars: future of mobile bussines applications. They have the mobility and the capability to run complex bussines applications. I develop that kind of solutions, and i know how much you can do with a pocket pc. Belive me, is more than the most of the IT people thinks (we have apps that are capable to take to the hand all the information required for a mobile warrior: customers, stock, accounts, reports, real time information, sells, etc) - UMPCs and similars: they are still starting, and their place on the market is still not defined, but some of them are better like portable media devices, and other are better for bussines apps. The blackberrys are something temporal. They are good for mobile e-mail, but nothing more. And you can have mobile e-mail (push e-mail) on a pocket pc too, using Exchange Server, is nothing new (exists before Blackberry). They are transforming to pocket pcs, there are new versions that run Windows Mobile, so the actual Blackberry models are a "temporal" kind of device. The iPhone is the better portable computer today?... well, knowing the portable world today, nothing is more far away than that. It's not even a computer... A pocket pc is more close to a portable pc. For example, with .net, an app that runs on a pocket pc, runs on a pc too (there is nothig more close to a pc on your hand than that). The actual portable pcs are no "perfect", but are great to the objetive that are made. There are devices for every need. What do you think? PS: sorry about my bad english, i speak spanish XD