I was a loyal customer from Turbo C on up to V5.0. It did not take long though after finding out that C++ seemed to have faded from their priority as all you could hear from Borland was this great Delphi garbage. It is similar to how MS pushed VB, but at least MS did not abandon thier C++ customers to force them to VB. Personally, I expected Borland to wake up and get on the roll, improving their product and OWL, but I guess they though everyone would just move to Delphi. Another one of those big opps in the tech world businesses. Even to this day, I do not trust any Borland product. I do believe though, that in today's world, we need a new Borland type company to emerge with a very impressive development product at a very low price. Turbo C just about killed the entire C market with its $50 price tag. Even at the end I believe Borland C++ developer package was still under $200. I guess now you can get the "Express" versions of VS, but it would be nice to see a competitor. Rocky <>< My Blog[^]