Ok, I've started reading up on WF 4.0... And I keep coming back to a philosophy question. If I were to put a workflow together to move data around... Would you write the work flow against an individual record? Or would you write the workflows against the set. Let's take a simple console app: I have a bunch of records That I extract from the SQL tables, work on them via a web service, receive a response, and update the sql table with a response code. One could write it like this: Harvest all available records to my staging table. Foreach: Select a record Call the web service Update the record back in the database End Foreach Stop. Or possibly write them as 3 steps. Harvest Post Update and each of the 3 would be a separate activity. The first is more of a workflow acting on a single record and sending the record to the workflow, the 2nd is more along the lines of simple 3 activity workflow. So what do you all think?

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Ok, Google didn't show anything.... What I'm wondering is if anybody has seen a tool that would do this: We have config settings of Release/Debug... So I took Debug and duplicated it, I have Debug - Production Web Services, Debug - Development Web Services. The difference being, I want to run this console project I'm working on in Studio (2010) and it calls Web services provided by a 3rd party. The 3rd party was nice enough to have a dev system and a production system. What I have been doing is to go in and change the URLs from the dev site to the Production site, back and forth. What I'd like to be able to do is to control the URLs with the click of a button, I was hoping I could do it by changing build configuration. What do you think, see anything out there? Nick

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Well, the solution was the reference to the web service itself. The reference was the internal web service (a.k.a. inside of our firewall) and it was being used by people on the outside of the firewall. Once we created a proxy service and pointed it it, everything worked fine. I guess next time, when I inherit code, I probably should deep dive a bit more to figure out how the original designers were makingthings work.. THanks everybody for the help. Nick

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Abhinav S wrote:

Make sure you have the client acess policy files in place.

That's the one thing I believe I do have in the right place. I kept tinkering with the different settings in it and I was successful at denying myself access to the web service. It's a wide open clientaccesspolicy.xml file right at the moment.

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Maybe somebody can help me out here... I have a really really simple Silverlight app calling a web service on a different domain. The silverlight is just a simple login screen, it takes a username and a password and returns true/false. The values are passed off to my web service and I return the boolean. I have checked out the following: 1) The web service itself works fine. I fired up a different platform and I can hit the web service and get back what I'm expecting from all over the place. 2) The ClientAccessPolicy.xml file is also wide open. I went so far as to play around with it a bit and I know I'm hitting the right one and it's working ok. (I did this by changing the URI to something else and I got shut out as expected, etc. On my DevBox, it works fine. I can fire up the web site on my machine, and call the web service as expected. Shucks, I can even call up the web site itself on the web server and it works as expected. It's only when I try to hit the Silverlight web site from other places where I run into problems. Any chances somebody out there run across this and might know what I'm doing wrong? Thanks, Nick Here's some of the error messages I'm seeing: Webpage error details User Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; Trident/4.0; SLCC2; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET CLR 3.0.30729; Media Center PC 6.0; OfficeLiveConnector.1.4; OfficeLivePatch.1.3; .NET4.0C; .NET4.0E; InfoPath.3) Timestamp: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 03:31:43 UTC Message: Unhandled Error in Silverlight Application An exception occurred during the operation, making the result invalid. Check InnerException for exception details. at System.ComponentModel.AsyncCompletedEventArgs.RaiseExceptionIfNecessary() at xyx.ServiceProxy.GetAllAdvisorStatesCompletedEventArgs.get_Result() at xyx.App.oProxy_GetAllAdvisorStatesCompleted(Object sender, GetAllAdvisorStatesCompletedEventArgs e) at xyx.ServiceProxy.svcXYXSoapClient.OnGetAllAdvisorStatesCompleted(Object state) Line: 1 Char: 1 Code: 0 URI: http://portal.myportal.com/xyx/ Message: Unhandled Error in Silverlight Application An exception occurred during the operation, making the result invalid. Check InnerException for exception details. at System.ComponentModel.AsyncCompletedEventArgs.RaiseExceptionIfNecessary() at xyx.ServiceProxy.LoginCompletedEventArgs.get_Result() at xyx.MainPage.oProxy_LoginCompleted(Object sender, LoginCompletedEventArgs e) at xyx.ServiceProxy.svcXYXSoapClien

Wow, I haven't seen one of those in SSSOOOO long.....

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I just switched to Arvixe about 2 months ago. I'm still playing around with the site and throwing up different installation sets but so far they seem ok. I've seen others that do a bit better on email handling, but really no complaints so far. Nick

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This

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Bloody hell Nick how are we supposed to guess that?

My hope is somebody ran across the same problem. That's how we're suppose to "Guess" that one.

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Now all of my stored procs are coming in with a ;1 at the end of them. I haven't seen them since the old VMS days... It only does it on the CommandText of the tableadapters, and only on one of my machines. Both are using the same connection string... Ok, so what setting did I change? Thanks, Nick

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I don't think it needs an entire book. I'm not looking for a book on recurring orders only. But books that show different techniques of how to accomplish this. It could be a regular book on order management with a chapter or two dedicated to this topic. For example, there could be a living order record spawning off shipments and then updating the live record. Or there could be a system that prepopulates several different orders and each order directly relates to a single shipment (in this case, there isn't a shipment system running, just a related record that would have shipment details). That sort of thing.

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Hi Gang, Maybe you all might be able to help me out.... What I'm looking for are books on order management systems. Yes, I've seen the ones about ECommerce where it's a single order you are managing, but I'm looking for something about programming techniques for actually managing the orders. In this case, let's pretend you are selling widgets and every 45 days, a new widget is sent to you automagically. You don't have to do anything else. You don't have to return to a web site to process a new order, etc. Nothing I've seen so far has any techniques for handling these recurring orders, etc. on the back end. Anybody want to recommend some good books? (I have the APress (?) ones about ECommerce in C# using Studio 2005, it doesn't talk about recurring shipments at all) Thanks, Nick

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Ed.Poore wrote:

I never change the oil in my Land Rover because they had the forsight to make the oil leak slightly to lubricate engine parts and also you never have to change the oil, just keep on topping it up.

Sounds like my old rusty pickup... Oh wait, thats'a hol(e)y pickup.... My nephew calls it wrinkley.... :-D

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John Cardinal wrote:

on the schedule they set without fail.

So would that be the manufacturer schedule? Meaning (probably) more than every 3,000 miles between oil changes?

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Ok, Here's the oil question of the day, do you change your OIL at 3,000 miles like the oil industries says is good for your car, or do you change it at what ever the car manufacturer recommends? (I've seen some as high as 10,000 miles between oil changes, most between 5,000-7500 miles). I've heard arguments both ways: quotes like: "...The oil companies say it makes your car last much longer at 3,000 miles..." To "...Why would the oil companies know more about how the car is made versus the manufacturer?, besides, what does the manufacturer gain at 7500 mile oil changes..." So, what do you think? 3K or manufacturer's suggestion?

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Anybody here anything about it? I heard rumors that it was going to be released at the biggy virtualization conference (hosted by VMWare) over the last few days but no hits anywhere.... Nick

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Thanks! That's the kind of opinions I was looking for...

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I know you asked another, but for me, it's my daughter... so I thought I'd jump back in here... My daughter has learned a lot using the computer. Really working on spelling. We do impose time restrictions on when she is, or isn't allowed to use the computer, and the computer sits in our living room so there isn't any chance of her going places or doing things that she isn't allowed to. Not to mention we have been known to lock the computer so she can't use it when we don't want to. She is quite young. After watching/working with an elementary school for the last 6 years or so as a volunteer admin, I've seen the kids use the computers. They generally start working with the computer in ernest around 3rd grade. Then usually 4th, 5th they are doing MS:Office to start working with how the programs and by 6-8th grade, they are doing regular assignments on the computers all of the time, including typing their papers, doing research for those papers, and much more.... And hearing what kids are doing in high schools, if these kids don't have that kind of background, they'll be 2 steps back from all of the others coming in. Some of the high schools around here (the more exclusive ones are starting to require computers for their students). Not to mention the kids when they get to college where even the mid level schools require incoming freshmen to have computers as a requirement... Personally, I don't have any problem with my daughter as long as she isn't in front of the computer for hours at a time. I think it will give her an advantage when she gets into those classes where computers are used routinely.

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Actually, I looked there (For the rest of ya's it's a google search)... but the majority of the reviews I saw there were nothing recent. Several from 2002-2003, etc.... Hoping for something a bit more current then 2003... But thanks for replying!!! Nick

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Actually, most elementary schools in this area have computers in the classrooms and are used every day, even as young as 1st grade, not to mention the upper grades. (Elementary in this area is still K-8). Without them, the kids going to the high schools would be completely lost. Students bring in homework from home on thumb drives, do research for classroom papers, plot graphics in science classrooms, I could go on..... There is also a really nice lab at this particular school that both students and teachers use frequently. And they talked about openning it up to have after school closes kind of teaching going on for the school kid's parents to help them learn computer technology.... All that being said, it would be fool hardy to NOT have virus protection on machines... Oh yea, one other thing, the US Federal government has mandates on the books that require students be protected at all costs from some of the problems associated with viruses.....

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Just fishing... Anybody here ever work with Sophos Virus Protection? If so, what did you think? I'm not looking for the "Oh stay away from them", or "Have you considered" kinds of responses. I'm looking for a review of Sophos Virus Protection in a elementary school environment.... Thanks, Nick

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