One of my first COBOL instructors would give us an assignment, due in 2 weeks. a couple of us would complete it in the next couple days... about halfway thru the time-frame... he'd change what he wanted us to do. We thought he was too dumb to make up his problems ahead of time little did we realize - he was teaching us what life as a programmer was really about...

and nobody cares. probably why this hasn't been noticed. SOME of us work in a shop where VB is the standard... reading the article by "Jalapeno Bob" from yesterday titled Getting All "Special Folders" via VB.NET link to download gives the following response /KB/vb/1092049/SpecialFolders.zip appears to be missing on our servers. D'oh. if i click on the 'if your download doesn't start, click here' link, big black windows cmd-looking window appears, with the following text Ticket: (No ticket provided - possibly an error in the error-system) Error: An error occurred in this page. The error has been recorded and the site administrator informed. Abort, Retry, Fail?_ :(

“Nuts” – Brig. General Anthony C. McAuliffe 101st Airborne Division Bastogne, 22 Dec 1944

and a every single pilot that ever got a weather briefing... although we tend to call it ZULU

Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

I can understand why we don't get many VB developers on CodeProject

oh, we're here. we just never say anything. Trust me, we think all you VB bashers only do it because you've never actually TOUCHED a decent VB.NET program, but feel like you have to 'bash' to fit in. probably my one and only post... but wanted to get my 2¢ in :)

the difference is that you, going fast, and me, wanting to go fast, all have the same access to the roadway. Your simile falls apart unless you put a tollbooth at every on-ramp, leaving only the two-lane country roads 'free' to use. It doesn't sound so bad, until you add in the HOV lanes, with an additional tollbooth to get in to them (as opposed to the multiple rider rule, now), and then start charging lots and lots of money - which only the transport companies can afford, for access to either. If I truly had a choice of provider for internet (other than whether to use DSL, Cable, or Satellite), then free market can be allowed, because the competition should keep things under control. The way it is now, if I need a Cable connection - my only option (in my neighborhood) is Time Warner. There is no way that I can sign up with Charter... and because we have all been divided up, just like I cannot select my own electric company.. that is why 'free market' doesn't work. On the bright side, perhaps it will knock the spammers out.. because we know one of the first things they'll do is start a per-email charge...

That depends on your definition of 'wrong'. The problem is, first and foremost, it is a violation of the 4th Amendment in the US. If the gov't suddenly decides that owning books is 'wrong', or having cats is wrong, or that more than one computer means you have too much money, so they'll come take one of the computers, and garnish your wages.. Are you still ok with it then?

And EVERY SINGLE RESPONSE TO THIS POINT is one of the reasons there are so few women in technology. Did any of you read the part at the top of the Lounge about 'if your kid sister was going to read....'? Would you want your kid sister to NOT go into technology BECAUSE she is a sister, and not a brother? I notice nobody complained that they had any men that were 'too handsome' to be engineers. Good Grief. Linked in was in the wrong - no question. The 'error' was made by the person doing the review, and that person definitely needs to be severely disciplined - and major public apologies made by Linked in.

CPallini wrote:

This attitude is the same of DD jokes about women driving cars: ignore the b@st#rd§.

and that is exactly what is wrong 'be a big girl, just ignore it' why do you suppose so many female programmers hide their gender on forums? Because if a man asks a question, it is answered, whereas if a woman asks the same identical question, jokes abound. FYI - the lounge is worse than the USAF in this respect. my 2 cents

amused to see the article titled NSA-proof your e-mail in 2 hours is returning an internal error.... maybe NSA doesn't want you to -proof your e-mail....

and quite possibly why some companies have instituted an 'email age limit' policy..

and don't use namespaces unless they are really required... VB does NOT like namespaces... (as in, Imports does not allow you to not specify the namespace..it is always foo.bar, even if you Imports foo

Is anybody actually using this for something, or are we all still trying to figure out how to work with it? I can think of several applications, but we are a VB shop, and all of the 'coded workflow' samples are C#. While I know C#, and don't have an issue translating, it appears that WF will allow C# users to write to read-only properties, but not VB. This is making the task just that much harder....

I'm going to chime in here... and probably get flamed for it, which is why I never do. If you haven't played with VB since its inception, your attitude needs adjusting. Not that you are required to *like* it, just to stop relegating it to the sub-basement. There are a few minor things you can do in C# that I can't do in VB (or at least, not without some severe coding), but MOST of that is in some newer areas (i.e., coded workflows... read-only properties can be written to in C#, the VB compiler complains.. but there is a work-around)- and microsoft has heard all the complaints about 'real programmers' not using VB, so neglected those of us who have no choice. This is bad. let the flames begin

We have a folder called 'Assemblies', into which we copy the generated .dlls when they are ready for consumption. This allows us to make changes (and check them in, so we don't lose our work) without affecting the 'upstream' items. When it is ready for a new 'release', copy the completed bin files into the Assemblies folder. Then, the upstream projects have a References folder, with an entry for each 'subsystem' that needs to be referenced which points to the Assemblies folder for the subsystem. Bin is not stored in our source control. (we are using TortoiseSVN)

i like the VS XML generating comments - which go above.