I just got an MSDN Universal Subscription, it cost $2599 and there is a $300 rebate if you opt to take the distribution on DVD instead of CD. You obviously get everything with MSDN, including access to a secured area of the Microsoft site where you can download all of the development tools, operating systems, applications and servers. They also have special managed newsgroups for member support. I believe you also get 4 free support incidents with the subscription. Quarterly updates, access to beta's ... blah, blah, blah. Just got done downloading Visual Studio .NET and burning it onto CD-R's. Took a while but I did it overnight while I was asleep. Microsoft's software as a subscription service definetly makes it more economic to subscribe to MSDN.

Must be getting sleepy - should have thought of 'clear()'!!! ----------------------- The sermon on the mount... Man 1 : Hear that? Blessed are the greek. Man 2 : The greek? Man 1 : Well apparently, he's going to inherit the earth. Man 2 : Did anyone catch his name?

Thanks Ravi, I might give them a go. Good site, - I used to play in bands as well (92-96) and still poke around with music a bit! :suss: