ah during the summer i was working nights for a company in Dublin, one night i wrote a little C code just displaying a message saying windows suffered an error please press any key... when the user pressed a key a new message popped up requesting to reformat the machine y/n, no matter what you pressed a "reformat" started ran it on all the computers in my office alt+entered it to full screen and went home at 7am came back in at 7pm, the place was going nuts they all thought the pc's were screwed, lesson: dont hire dub ppl just because they'll work Saturdays, another favorite is to disconnect the network cable just enough to stop it working but leave it sitting in the port causes much frustration to dumb ppl! mikie

I have a mac and Vista, Mac is more secure except for one thing i noticeed, they go on about not needing anti malware, well i downloaded a trial of an anti spyware just to see and it discovered 2 spyware programs, one was googles ad tracking thing and the other from some other marketing nothing dangerous, however since these both were in my cookies i would assume that keyloggers etc could potentially get in. In my opinion Mac OS X is far more secure (for now anyway) except that they need to warn users of this threat as most mac users arent exactly experts in the field and probly just assume there safe from anything cause apple says so. mikie

true but to learn it you really need to try it out mikie

Just remember you can only try the code on the processor type you have. mikie

you think thats bad? I work for an IT/Finance company for the summer months(im in college) and sum of the crap we get here, our interface with one of the banks was down for 2 nights, on the first we got in touch and they said nothin was wrong, and the same every hour for 2 days....then finally one comes back and says oh sorry yeh we had a problem..sumone tripped over the cable......wat sort of a bank has cables left lying about in server rooms??? and thats not to mention the staff in this place the amount of requets we get to pretty much do peoples jobs for them and then IT they can even upgrade a SAN server right.....:(( mikie