3 is easy. The first logician wants a bear otherwise he would have said no. He said 'I don't know' because he does not know whether logician 2 and 3 want a beer. The second logician knows that the 1st one wants a beer because he did not say no. He also wants a beer because he does not say no, but since he does not know whether the 3 rd logician wants a beer he answers 'I dont know'. The 3rd logician wants a beer. Since neither logician 1 o 2 said 'no' he knows that they want a beer, therefore he can answer 'yes'. As far as 13 is concerned I have no idea.

If only closed minds would come with closed mouths. Ego non sum semper iustus tamen Ego sum nunquam nefas!

When has it ever been? You guys are being governed by installing fear in to mainstream society. Hence the government can make as many draconian laws as they want. Be afraid be very afraid there is a terrorist hiding behind every bush, corner or wherever else that is not in you line of sight. What leaves me gobsmacked in the US public swallows this line hook line and sinker.

If only closed minds would come with closed mouths. Ego non sum semper iustus tamen Ego sum nunquam nefas!

At least it makes headline news in Belgium and a very uncommon occurance. Here in South Africa the raping and killing of infants and toddlers is so common place, you could almost say it is a national passtime amongst the poorer communities.

If only closed minds would come with closed mouths. Ego non sum semper iustus tamen Ego sum nunquam nefas!

Do not get me wrong I also care what goes on around the world, I do however tend to pay more attention to issues that affect humanity in one way or another. When I first heard about the Lance Armstrong saga, I thought to myself what an idiot he just guttered his whole cycling career and his reputation, and that is where my opinion ended. The Live Strong Foundation will not be affected by his actions and will continue to raise funds to assist people with cancer. I just don't care to raise my blood pressure over issues that have absolutely no impact on the general wellbeing of myself and/or other people.

If only closed minds would come with closed mouths. Ego non sum semper iustus tamen Ego sum nunquam nefas!

What the hell are you getting so worked up about. It's not as if you would have won the Tour de France if he did not cheat. This is the reality of professional sports, most athletes, that need to perform at the level that Armstrong needed to perform at, cheat in one way or another, to get an advantage on their competitors. It just happens to be that he got caught and the others have not been caught yet. Then again, maybe his cheating involved your wife and/or girlfriend, then it is fully understandable that you got you panties in a knot.

If only closed minds would come with closed mouths. Ego non sum semper iustus tamen Ego sum nunquam nefas!

LOL :-D :-D :-D +5

If only closed minds would come with closed mouths. Ego non sum semper iustus tamen Ego sum nunquam nefas!

This is not the first time that I have heard this pro/contra gun argument amongst Americans. And yes, you can say that guns do not kill people, but peolpe kill people, guns just make it easier for people to kill other people. I am sure that many a murder could have been averted if the murderer did not own a licensed weapon. The problem is that many gun owners are not fit to carry a gun. Personally I think that you should be able to own a weapon if you wanted one, but only if you met the following conditions: 1. A prospective gun owner should pass a psychological evaluation to make sure that he/she does not have psychopathic tendencies or other psychlogiacal disorders such as anger issues, etc. 2. The prospective gun owner should have no criminal record (juvenile or otherwise) what so ever. 3. The prospective gun owner must undergo proficiency training on how to safly handle his or her fire arm of choice. 4. The prospective gun owner must prove that he has secure storage for the gun; i.e. a gun safe. 5. Gun licence should be revoked, and weapon confiscated if the gun owner uses his or her weapon irresponsibly. 6. Gun licence should be revoked if the gun owners weapon is stolen (while the gun owner is not carrying the weapon) due to not storing the weapon in a gun safe. 7. If a prospective gun owner was found guilty of negligence or irresponsible gun use in the past he should not be allowed to own a gun again. IMHO if a person meats meets the restrictions I mentioned above, that person would more then likely be a responsible gun owner and not pose any threat to society.

If only closed minds would come with closed mouths. Ego non sum semper iustus tamen Ego sum nunquam nefas!

Had a similiar issue here in South Africa, although with a jeep. A pin just behind the keybarrel on my ignition. Jeep said that they do not supply the pin as a part and I had to purchase a knew stearing column, R11000. I ended up taking the warn out pin to an engineering place and they machind a new one for R250.

If only closed minds would come with closed mouths. Ego non sum semper iustus tamen Ego sum nunquam nefas!

Women have moustaches where you live?!!! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: But then again maybe you like them that way :-D

If only closed minds would come with closed mouths. Ego non sum semper iustus tamen Ego sum nunquam nefas!

Women have moustaches where you live? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

If only closed minds would come with closed mouths. Ego non sum semper iustus tamen Ego sum nunquam nefas!

Without the MD there would not have been an old folks home.

If only closed minds would come with closed mouths. Ego non sum semper iustus tamen Ego sum nunquam nefas!

Ok, are they supposed to stand still and wave their fingers at them, as if they were naughty children, and send them to the naughty corner. Yes I can agree that the police was ill disciplined, and not prepared or trained to handle the situation. But then again they no longer receive the kind of training that we received in the SANDF. But I can tell you from experience that once protesters get as close to you as they did we would have opened fire as well.

If only closed minds would come with closed mouths. Ego non sum semper iustus tamen Ego sum nunquam nefas!

Had this shooting happened in the USA or anywhere in Europ there would not have been such an outcry againsst the police. Taking into consideration that the miners already killed 10 of there own and 2 police officers, what are 40 or so cops supposed to do when an angry mob of 3000 + workers approach them waving machettes? The protesters even cut body parts of the people they murdered for muti (potions brewed by witch doctors known as sangomas). The sad part is that most protesters turn to violence here in South Africa. I for one can say that I would open fire, if an angry mob had to approach me waving machettes that can sever a limb or kill you with one blow. Anyone that does not agree with that can get lost.

If only closed minds would come with closed mouths. Ego non sum semper iustus tamen Ego sum nunquam nefas!

Yes.

If only closed minds would come with closed mouths. Ego non sum semper iustus tamen Ego sum nunquam nefas!

I had to wipe the coffe of my screen. The best joke I've read in a while.

If only closed minds would come with closed mouths. Ego non sum semper iustus tamen Ego sum nunquam nefas!

The soldier who survived mustard gas and pepper spray? He is now a seasoned veteran.

If only closed minds would come with closed mouths. Ego non sum semper iustus tamen Ego sum nunquam nefas!

Bush was to dumb to come up with that wish.

If only closed minds would come with closed mouths. Ego non sum semper iustus tamen Ego sum nunquam nefas!

Well how does the saying go. Old enough to bleed, old enough to breed. What I read into that is that as soon as a girls body is ready to have children (at age 13 in most cases) the girl will start to experiment with sexual activities. The only thing we can do is to inform them of the possible consequences when they do it in an unsafe manner.

If only closed minds would come with closed mouths. Ego non sum semper iustus tamen Ego sum nunquam nefas!

The postman told me before he died He told me, his wife had a cunt so wide, and she was never satisfied And I couldn't find a reason to believe he lied But the postman knew he could do the trick with to copper balls and a 10 pound prick He built himself a prick of steel, The whole masterpiece was driven by a wheel The copper balls he filled with cream, the whole damn thing was driven by steam And up and up with the level of the steam And down and down with the level of the cream Enough, enough, enough she cried for she was finally satisfied And now we come to the tragic bit, for she was split from arse to tit.

If only closed minds would come with closed mouths. Ego non sum semper iustus tamen Ego sum nunquam nefas!

There was this 85 year old widower who won the lottery. Since his wife died 20 years earlier he did not enjoy intimate relations with a women. He thinks to himself, since my health can deteriorate at any time now, and I have some money, I'll go down to the local brothel and get my self a hot chick. As he enters the brothel the Madamme, tells him. "You are to old for this establishment". The old man waves around a wad of $100 bills and says: "I have $2000, and I want the horniest chick in the house." The brothel owner thinks to herself, money is money and tells the old man to go to the fisrt door to the right on the second floor. Old man:"Before I go, I want a rubber and 4 pieces of cotton wool and a condom." The Brothel ownere obliges. The old man enters the room on the second floor, gets undressed and proceeds to put on the condom he puts one piece of cotton wool in his one nostril, another in his other nostril, one in his left ear. Before he could put the last puiece of cotton wool in his right ear, the prostitute asks him: "Old man, I can understand the use of the condom, AIDS and STD's, but whats up with the cotton wool?" The Old man replies: "Lady there are 2 things I dispise in life, and that is the smell of buring rubber and the sound of a screaming woman"

If only closed minds would come with closed mouths. Ego non sum semper iustus tamen Ego sum nunquam nefas!