Hello I agree with you. I have a few friends which are better than me. They know even TCP commands and stuff like that. But they are still single. I have often heard not being the best from them, but I have a family. So who's better now? They will soon join the fate of the dinosaurs. Sure, if you spend your free time with soap opera (no, not SOAP and opera browser) instead of coding, then you have no social life either. This would be the badest combination. Regards

My guess? One! Me, at the moment. Your guess?

Hi We have here intensive (think LOUD) discussions about how many programmers we need for our project. I would be happy if you could give me an estimate about how many you think we need to see if I'm completely wrong or not. Description/List: - It is a product, not a customer specific app only for one customer. - We must develop an test it, then install and support it on the customers sites. - We are faced with our old sins... err, I mean versions (Patching old versions) - There are components running on the customers server and on their clients (10...1000). - For all customers an upgrade path must exist for the data in database and for server/client apps. Components: - Web application with various pages. - Webservice with many webservices also for third party apps (we must negotiate these with them) - A database for central data handling (SQL Server, ANY version > 7, many tables, storedPros) - In total about 46 Visual Studio projects which must be built and with Installshield (four more projects) converted to a setup - It supports four user languages. - It must be tested on OS >= WinXP and different IE versions (you know the pitfalls) - About 399'000 lines of code in 1440 files (without comments and autogenerated code, counted with LOCCounter from Microsoft with standard settings). - Technologies: Mainly C# with usual XML/SOAP thingies, Javascript, C++ and some (excuse me) VB6. What do you think who many employees does such a project need? It would be nice hearing an estimate from you. Thanks

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The question is wrong. It should be "Why is the old stuff so unpopular". If you have ever hunted down memory bugs in C++ or done COM+ or uh(!) oh(!) try to do useful things with hosted IEControls....or the ATL/MFC mess ......shudddering when I think back.... Try parse a XML document in native code (what ever level of "native" you mean with that) In .Net you code a lot faster. => Mo Money, Bro !!!

Hello venomation Welcome to the reality! You have played the games and are bored. It's a good thing. I went the same route years ago. I was sitting in front of my AMIGA (you probalby have never seen such a machine), besides me a bunch of 31/2" floppys, and wondering "What am I spending my time with?????". You heard the names of the games from the other comments in this thread. Go out, rent a garage to make music, found your own company or something and use your intellect to create your future. Don't waste your youth with games. I know I sound like your father (which I could be when looking only at my age). Don't fear the world without games. It's not boring. Regards zuiopl