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fat_boy wrote: "People underestimate the power of models. Observational evidence is not very useful," adding, "Our approach is not entirely empirical." Your Mission, should you choose to accept it, is to find the context of this remark. Models are better than observational evidence for understanding how complex systems work. Of course, observational evidence provides the input to the models, and is the yard-stick that determines whether the models are accurate, but of itself, it is not very useful in understanding the workings of the climate. In the context of the above statement, I can accept John Mitchell's statement. My beef is that the models are not yet mature enough to be used to support the drastic measures proposed at Climate Change conferences. fat_boy wrote: And he calls himself a scientist? No, he is a scientist, which is why I would prefer to know the context, rather than take the remarks as proof of incompetence. Everybody is elitist to a certain extent; except me - I'm better than that. Micah

I am donating my body to a pet food factory when I die. :) Dr D Evans "The whole idea that carbon dioxide is the main cause of the recent global warming is based on a guess that was proved false by empirical evidence during the 1990s" financialpost

Koder wrote: is-pakistan-being-cast-as-the-next-plausible-evil-doer' Seems they nailed the audition! Craigslist Troll: litaly@comcast.net "I have a theory that the truth is never told during the nine-to-five hours. " — Hunter S. Thompson

It is. There is a point where a world view is so warped that the individual in question doesn't deserve any kind of rights. That is a rare thing - you may have heard of Marc Dutroux, that guy still has some rights. But if your goal is to sow as much destruction, death and chaos as you can, then even having your dead body dragged through the streets and desecrated in many ways is much too good for you.

fat_boy wrote: OK, I know you are playing a middle position, and that, form your experience, in the lab, that some processes dont scale up and that you were merely pointing out that the earth isnt a cup of water.   Good, we al know that, but the fact is that Andersons statement was wrong, and he admitted that in an email discussion with me last week. None of that has anything to do with what I said. My first reply quoted exactly what I was responding to. fat_boy wrote: Fact: You cant add heat to the earths climate system with it having an effect. That is simplistic as well. For starters I can in fact add 'something' to many systems without it having a measurable impact. And for other systems where it is measurable it might not be significant.

No, it was a spoil of war from what I read, the Turks had no option. It was never British, A common error is to blame the British for the Creation of Israel, whilst the it was suggested by a Brit the actual decision was by the League of Nations (and then again later by the UN) The British government only had a mandate from the League to administrate the land there was no point at which the land belonged to the Empire. The original grant was post WW1 and predated the Nazi's You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

David1987 wrote: I also feel China won't respond Hmmm or else Asia will be very much destabilized. The more anger towards the past you carry in your heart, the less capable you are of loving in the present. My Blog![^]

The Jews were there first by thousands of years. The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

Hmmm... tried it, not impressed. Same thing with swearing stuck over it. Join the cool kids - Come fold with us[^]

Just think of the good that money could be used for in the real world... I wasn't, now I am, then I won't be anymore.

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Gotcha. :laugh: Ignorance of the ability brings disability.

:) What a crappy medium writing is eh? Dr D Evans "The whole idea that carbon dioxide is the main cause of the recent global warming is based on a guess that was proved false by empirical evidence during the 1990s" financialpost

Yeah, its swinging around a fair bit. What I find interesting is that these swings, both up and down, in the last fe years, are equal to to the supposed rise in 100 years, 0.7 `C. So if CO2 is such a big player, just what the hell is it that can do the same thing 100 times quicker! It must be a REALLY big player, whcih kind of puts CO2 way in the back. "If climate has not "tipped" in over 4 billion years it's not going to tip now due to mankind." Richard S. Lindzen, Atmospheric Physicist, IPCC "It does not matter who you are, or how smart you are, or what title you have, or how many of you here are, and certainly not how many papers your side has published, if your prediction is wrong then your hypothesis is wrong. Period." Professor Richard Feynman

fat_boy wrote: They know already. O.K. Next time, I will add the ;) . 2011 - Our best hope is that things will be frightening and dangerous rather than desperate and horrific. Jesse's Café Américain

:laugh: good pick!

wolfbinary wrote: "convertible arbitrage on the buy side" huh? You are in too deep "convertible" = Convertible bonds... Bonds (Kind of like loans given to companies) that can be converted into shares of stock. Very complicated instruments, traded by a very small subset of hedge funds. "arbitrage" = The prices of CBs move up and down in relation to the price of the stock they convert into, but it's not an instant reaction... As an analogy: Hot dogs (with buns) are $1 a piece... Buns are $0.25. Buns suddenly rise in price to $0.30, but the hot dog vendors haven't updated their prices yet... So we buy hot dogs right away, because we know that when they post their new price tomorrow, it'll probably be $1.05 to take the new bun price into account, so we'll sell it to someone for $1.05 tomorrow and make $0.05 in profit. That's arbitrage... You trade based on correlation between related or unrelated products. Not a perfect analogy, but it's kinda the idea. "buy side" = We're not one of the big firms that sell to everyone and keep huge lists of customers. We're a customer, buying from those big guys and selling to other big guys. wolfbinary wrote: When you say portion do you mean more or less than half? :laugh: ;-P I know the whole industry isn't, but it's not the good part people are usually talking about. There are legitimate functions they serve, but obviously the fraud portion is the portion that's taken over the bulk of things in the big companies or they wouldn't have so spectacularly blown things up. It's not that the fraud portion is the bulk of the companies... It's that everything is so connected that a problem in one group can affect all of the other groups. When the mortgage sector takes a dive*, it affects the credit curves, which affect the bond markets, which hit the stock markets... Everything is connected. It really doesn't take much to topple a wall street firm. The difference between "We're fine" and "We're bankrupt" can be one pervasive rumor, one typo in an earnings report, or one messed-up decimal point in a trading system. * Not an actual researched example... I don't know how it all actually flowed... Just illustrating... wolfbinary wrote: Have you sold many copies of your novel? No... But I have to keep trying... Proud to have finally moved to the A-