Martin, I'm really pleased after some of the stuff you posted early on that you're so careful not to offend people, but let me assure you that if I thought you were being offensive, I would actually say so. I was not offended, and I don't see how I could have been. Christian I am completely intolerant of stupidity. Stupidity is, of course, anything that doesn't conform to my way of thinking. - Jamie Hale - 29/05/2002 Half the reason people switch away from VB is to find out what actually goes on.. and then like me they find out that they weren't quite as good as they thought - they've been nannied. - Alex, 13 June 2002