I *LOVE* ADSL
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David Wengier wrote: Cable is better I know :( David Wengier wrote: Who is your ADSL with? Bigpond? Netspace? XIS? Netspace. I have a 512 Kbps connection, with a 10 gig limit. Telstra both don't offer that sort of deal, and won't connect me because they falsely claim I owe them $350 ( a long story, I disputed the bill at the time, because it was caused by their ignoring a request for a mobile to be disconnected, and they stopped writing but hit me with it when I called for ADSL four years later ). Christian The tragedy of cyberspace - that so much can travel so far, and yet mean so little. "I'm thinking of getting married for companionship and so I have someone to cook and clean." - Martin Marvinski, 6/3/2002
Christian Graus wrote: Telstra both don't offer that sort of deal I was going to sign up to Netspace when the latest price rise came in on Telstra, because the deal is much better, but the cost of re-connection and a new modem made it too expensive. If only Optus installed into MDUs. Its a trade off. I can download faster, you can download more. Christian Graus wrote: they stopped writing but hit me with it when I called for ADSL four years later I'm impressed that Telstra's billing software was smart enough to work that out. Judging by their usage metering software, i'm surprised it works at all :) -- David Wengier Sonork ID: 100.14177 - Ch00k
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Christian Graus wrote: Telstra both don't offer that sort of deal I was going to sign up to Netspace when the latest price rise came in on Telstra, because the deal is much better, but the cost of re-connection and a new modem made it too expensive. If only Optus installed into MDUs. Its a trade off. I can download faster, you can download more. Christian Graus wrote: they stopped writing but hit me with it when I called for ADSL four years later I'm impressed that Telstra's billing software was smart enough to work that out. Judging by their usage metering software, i'm surprised it works at all :) -- David Wengier Sonork ID: 100.14177 - Ch00k
I'm amazed that they print the phone book and claimed the problem was they did not know how to contact me because I moved house. We are the only people with the surname 'graus' in Tasmania. Christian The tragedy of cyberspace - that so much can travel so far, and yet mean so little. "I'm thinking of getting married for companionship and so I have someone to cook and clean." - Martin Marvinski, 6/3/2002
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I'm home sick today ( for the past two weeks my kids and other peoples kids have been vomiting in my house, the whole place smells of spew and I'm surprised it took me this long to get sick ), but by lucky co-incidence I bought a new book yesterday ( on XSLT ) AND I got my copy of VS.NET. So I start my .NET install, and it tells me I need W2000 SP2. I go to Microsoft to download it - I am getting 50 k per second. I'll have the 100 meg file in half an hour. Man, I love ADSL. Christian The tragedy of cyberspace - that so much can travel so far, and yet mean so little. "I'm thinking of getting married for companionship and so I have someone to cook and clean." - Martin Marvinski, 6/3/2002
Christian Graus wrote: the whole place smells of spew Did you have to tell us that ! I'm surprised you didn't describe the colours. :-) Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin Logic merely enables one to be wrong with authority. -- Doctor Who 28 th Law of Computing: Anything that can go wr# Segmentation violation -- Core dumped
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Christian Graus wrote: the whole place smells of spew Did you have to tell us that ! I'm surprised you didn't describe the colours. :-) Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin Logic merely enables one to be wrong with authority. -- Doctor Who 28 th Law of Computing: Anything that can go wr# Segmentation violation -- Core dumped
Colin Davies wrote: I'm surprised you didn't describe the colours. I would have done, but I am colour blind, so my report would not be trustworthy... Christian The tragedy of cyberspace - that so much can travel so far, and yet mean so little. "I'm thinking of getting married for companionship and so I have someone to cook and clean." - Martin Marvinski, 6/3/2002
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I'm home sick today ( for the past two weeks my kids and other peoples kids have been vomiting in my house, the whole place smells of spew and I'm surprised it took me this long to get sick ), but by lucky co-incidence I bought a new book yesterday ( on XSLT ) AND I got my copy of VS.NET. So I start my .NET install, and it tells me I need W2000 SP2. I go to Microsoft to download it - I am getting 50 k per second. I'll have the 100 meg file in half an hour. Man, I love ADSL. Christian The tragedy of cyberspace - that so much can travel so far, and yet mean so little. "I'm thinking of getting married for companionship and so I have someone to cook and clean." - Martin Marvinski, 6/3/2002
Christian Graus wrote: Man, I love ADSL. Me, too. Yesterday, after reading Nish's posting, I've downloaded the entire PSDK. It took me 1:14 :cool: I :rose: ADSL! Regards Thomas Finally with Sonork id: 100.10453 Thömmi
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Christian Graus wrote: I would have done, but I am colour blind, so my report would not be trustworthy... You could always take a digital pic. I'm surprised someone color blind works with graphics. When I was at Uni we use to get points for color variations, walls hit, and spray patterns. Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin Logic merely enables one to be wrong with authority. -- Doctor Who 28 th Law of Computing: Anything that can go wr# Segmentation violation -- Core dumped
Colin Davies wrote: spray patterns Seriously why would anyone want to see that? X| -:suss:Matt Newman:suss: -Sonork ID: 100.11179:BestSnowman
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Colin Davies wrote: I'm surprised you didn't describe the colours. I would have done, but I am colour blind, so my report would not be trustworthy... Christian The tragedy of cyberspace - that so much can travel so far, and yet mean so little. "I'm thinking of getting married for companionship and so I have someone to cook and clean." - Martin Marvinski, 6/3/2002
Christian Graus wrote: I would have done, but I am colour blind, so my report would not be trustworthy... You could always take a digital pic. I'm surprised someone color blind works with graphics. When I was at Uni we use to get points for color variations, walls hit, and spray patterns. Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin Logic merely enables one to be wrong with authority. -- Doctor Who 28 th Law of Computing: Anything that can go wr# Segmentation violation -- Core dumped
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Christian Graus wrote: I am getting 50 k per second :yawn: Nish
My miniputt high is now 29 I do not think I can improve on that My temperament won't hold www.busterboy.org
Trying to hide your bandwidth envy, Nish ? :-) Christian The tragedy of cyberspace - that so much can travel so far, and yet mean so little. "I'm thinking of getting married for companionship and so I have someone to cook and clean." - Martin Marvinski, 6/3/2002
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I'm home sick today ( for the past two weeks my kids and other peoples kids have been vomiting in my house, the whole place smells of spew and I'm surprised it took me this long to get sick ), but by lucky co-incidence I bought a new book yesterday ( on XSLT ) AND I got my copy of VS.NET. So I start my .NET install, and it tells me I need W2000 SP2. I go to Microsoft to download it - I am getting 50 k per second. I'll have the 100 meg file in half an hour. Man, I love ADSL. Christian The tragedy of cyberspace - that so much can travel so far, and yet mean so little. "I'm thinking of getting married for companionship and so I have someone to cook and clean." - Martin Marvinski, 6/3/2002
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Glad to be here :-) 21 ? I HATE you !!!!!!! :rose: Christian The tragedy of cyberspace - that so much can travel so far, and yet mean so little. "I'm thinking of getting married for companionship and so I have someone to cook and clean." - Martin Marvinski, 6/3/2002
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I'm home sick today ( for the past two weeks my kids and other peoples kids have been vomiting in my house, the whole place smells of spew and I'm surprised it took me this long to get sick ), but by lucky co-incidence I bought a new book yesterday ( on XSLT ) AND I got my copy of VS.NET. So I start my .NET install, and it tells me I need W2000 SP2. I go to Microsoft to download it - I am getting 50 k per second. I'll have the 100 meg file in half an hour. Man, I love ADSL. Christian The tragedy of cyberspace - that so much can travel so far, and yet mean so little. "I'm thinking of getting married for companionship and so I have someone to cook and clean." - Martin Marvinski, 6/3/2002
Christian Graus wrote: I am getting 50 k per second :yawn: Nish
My miniputt high is now 29 I do not think I can improve on that My temperament won't hold www.busterboy.org
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Trying to hide your bandwidth envy, Nish ? :-) Christian The tragedy of cyberspace - that so much can travel so far, and yet mean so little. "I'm thinking of getting married for companionship and so I have someone to cook and clean." - Martin Marvinski, 6/3/2002
:(( :(( :(( :(( :(( Yeah... Sorry CG. Nish
My miniputt high is now 29 I do not think I can improve on that My temperament won't hold www.busterboy.org
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:(( :(( :(( :(( :(( Yeah... Sorry CG. Nish
My miniputt high is now 29 I do not think I can improve on that My temperament won't hold www.busterboy.org
I would loan you some of my bandwidth but it would probably be pretty tough getting a Cat5e cable all the way to India. -:suss:Matt Newman:suss: -Sonork ID: 100.11179:BestSnowman
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I'm home sick today ( for the past two weeks my kids and other peoples kids have been vomiting in my house, the whole place smells of spew and I'm surprised it took me this long to get sick ), but by lucky co-incidence I bought a new book yesterday ( on XSLT ) AND I got my copy of VS.NET. So I start my .NET install, and it tells me I need W2000 SP2. I go to Microsoft to download it - I am getting 50 k per second. I'll have the 100 meg file in half an hour. Man, I love ADSL. Christian The tragedy of cyberspace - that so much can travel so far, and yet mean so little. "I'm thinking of getting married for companionship and so I have someone to cook and clean." - Martin Marvinski, 6/3/2002
I could use ADSL right now. I wanted to download Oracle Database so I could test it for a new job I might be doing soon. No words can describe how surprised I was to find out the lastest version was a 1.2GB download. I was going to settle for the older version - *only* 600MB. I wish the prices would finally go down. I'll probably get ADSL if I move south next year. Isaac Sasson, Small time programmer - complainer at large. Sonork ID 100.13704
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Matt Newman wrote: Seriously why would anyone want to see that? Things were different back then Matt. And There was a war on. Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin Logic merely enables one to be wrong with authority. -- Doctor Who :jig: :jig: :jig: 28 th Law of Computing: Anything that can go wr# Segmentation violation -- Core dumped
I thought you were still talking about puke. Guess I should do less skimming :) -:suss:Matt Newman:suss: -Sonork ID: 100.11179:BestSnowman
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Colin Davies wrote: spray patterns Seriously why would anyone want to see that? X| -:suss:Matt Newman:suss: -Sonork ID: 100.11179:BestSnowman
†Matt Newman wrote: Seriously why would anyone want to see that? Things were different back then Matt. And There was a war on. Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin Logic merely enables one to be wrong with authority. -- Doctor Who :jig: :jig: :jig: 28 th Law of Computing: Anything that can go wr# Segmentation violation -- Core dumped
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I thought you were still talking about puke. Guess I should do less skimming :) -:suss:Matt Newman:suss: -Sonork ID: 100.11179:BestSnowman
†Matt's lesson of the day. Never skim when Puke is involved. :-) Regardz Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin Logic merely enables one to be wrong with authority. -- Doctor Who :jig: :jig: :jig: 28 th Law of Computing: Anything that can go wr# Segmentation violation -- Core dumped
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Christian Graus wrote: Man, I love ADSL Cable is better ;P Who is your ADSL with? Bigpond? Netspace? XIS? -- David Wengier Sonork ID: 100.14177 - Ch00k
Cable is better? It's cheaper than a decent DSL connection, but in what world is cable better? I've had both and as soon as enough people in your neighborhood catch on and get it too, you're left with an almost unusable connection at the prime times of the day. It got so bad where I lived during the day that dial-up was faster until about 3 in the morning. Plus I don't know of a single cable provider that allows you to run any servers on the cable connection. Most of them are blocking all pertinent ports. Go to a "geek" friendly DSL Provider like Speakeasy.net in the states and you not only have a quality of service agreement on your connection speed but also the ability to use your bandwidth for whatever purpose you desire. That includes running mail, ftp, web and dsn servers. Just my 2 cents! :)
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Cable is better? It's cheaper than a decent DSL connection, but in what world is cable better? I've had both and as soon as enough people in your neighborhood catch on and get it too, you're left with an almost unusable connection at the prime times of the day. It got so bad where I lived during the day that dial-up was faster until about 3 in the morning. Plus I don't know of a single cable provider that allows you to run any servers on the cable connection. Most of them are blocking all pertinent ports. Go to a "geek" friendly DSL Provider like Speakeasy.net in the states and you not only have a quality of service agreement on your connection speed but also the ability to use your bandwidth for whatever purpose you desire. That includes running mail, ftp, web and dsn servers. Just my 2 cents! :)
The better I was referring to should actually be "faster", as Christians ADSL is capped at 512Kbps and my cable is uncapped speed. As I said in a post up there somewhere, he is allowed to download more though, so it is a trade off. I dont know about slowdown due to people in the street. From what I have read, the bandwidth in the street is more than capable of handling a fair few connections, and it would take an awful lot of people to make my 10Mbps link feel like dialup. In Australia, in recent times, cable has also been a lot more reliable, with dropouts plagueing the ADSL network. Also, Telstra, the national telecommunications carrier, which owns all of the telephone lines, has only just started offering reasonable wholesale prices so that competitors, like Netspace who Christian uses, can provide a competetive service. Also, as far as I know, I am allowed to run servers on my connection, as long as I dont use it for business (though the business plan is identical in every way) or for anything illegal. -- David Wengier Sonork ID: 100.14177 - Ch00k
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I'm home sick today ( for the past two weeks my kids and other peoples kids have been vomiting in my house, the whole place smells of spew and I'm surprised it took me this long to get sick ), but by lucky co-incidence I bought a new book yesterday ( on XSLT ) AND I got my copy of VS.NET. So I start my .NET install, and it tells me I need W2000 SP2. I go to Microsoft to download it - I am getting 50 k per second. I'll have the 100 meg file in half an hour. Man, I love ADSL. Christian The tragedy of cyberspace - that so much can travel so far, and yet mean so little. "I'm thinking of getting married for companionship and so I have someone to cook and clean." - Martin Marvinski, 6/3/2002