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  • C Clickok

    VAIO Blue wrote:

    I believe there are no forever empire in the world, but what do you think would be the trigger that causes the collapse of US?

    Simple Outsource the government jobs to India (Asok Rules);) Jesus is Love! Tell to someone! :-)

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    Nish Nishant
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    click.ok wrote:

    Outsource the government jobs to India (Asok Rules)

    Ironic that Asok is an Indian (at least by origin). Regards, Nish


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    • C Chris Losinger

      Zac Howland wrote:

      But their offices moved out of CA and into AZ, NM, OR, and WA for the most part

      most of the furniture and textile manufacturing jobs left NC in the past decade, and it had nothing to do with the laws: it's all about cheap labor. and of course, it's not just NC. but we got lots of office jobs... for now. but there's no reason we should doubt that someday, some other country will figure out how to do those jobs at acceptable levels of quality. Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker

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      Zac Howland
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      Chris Losinger wrote:

      most of the furniture and textile manufacturing jobs left NC in the past decade, and it had nothing to do with the laws: it's all about cheap labor. and of course, it's not just NC.

      There are still a ton of those jobs in NC (and Southern VA as well). Businesses moving is not necessarily a problem as it can help improve efficiency. The mass exodus from CA was largely due to the fact that it is next to impossible to make money when you are based in CA due to taxes, and the propensity for being sued. My point on this section of the thread was that an earthquake on the San Andreas falt would not shake the semiconductor/electronic industry since they are no longer there anyway. If you decide to become a software engineer, you are signing up to have a 1/2" piece of silicon tell you exactly how stupid you really are for 8 hours a day, 5 days a week Zac

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      • N NormDroid

        When US glug the last drop of oil. Never send a human to do a machine's job Agent Smith

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        Judah Gabriel Himango
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        It would put the US in a disposition, for sure, but even worse, it would send many Middle East nations back to the Middle Ages.

        Tech, life, family, faith: Give me a visit. I'm currently blogging about: Goof around music jam with my brothers (with video) The apostle Paul, modernly speaking: Epistles of Paul Judah Himango

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        • Z Zac Howland

          Chris Losinger wrote:

          most of the furniture and textile manufacturing jobs left NC in the past decade, and it had nothing to do with the laws: it's all about cheap labor. and of course, it's not just NC.

          There are still a ton of those jobs in NC (and Southern VA as well). Businesses moving is not necessarily a problem as it can help improve efficiency. The mass exodus from CA was largely due to the fact that it is next to impossible to make money when you are based in CA due to taxes, and the propensity for being sued. My point on this section of the thread was that an earthquake on the San Andreas falt would not shake the semiconductor/electronic industry since they are no longer there anyway. If you decide to become a software engineer, you are signing up to have a 1/2" piece of silicon tell you exactly how stupid you really are for 8 hours a day, 5 days a week Zac

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          Chris Losinger
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          Zac Howland wrote:

          Businesses moving is not necessarily a problem as it can help improve efficiency.

          yes, they can produce furniture very efficiently in Vietnam. Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker

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          • M Martin Haesemeyer

            Well if you ask me I don't know anyway if americans know what to do with brewer's yeast... :~ (Jumps behind desk) Cheers Martin "When your own heart asks - how will you respond?" Gosen waka shū "Situation normal - all fu***d up" Illuminatus! My photos on flickr

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            El Corazon
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            Martin Häsemeyer wrote:

            I don't know anyway if americans know what to do with brewer's yeast...

            Rumor has it that some of the finest micro-brews are coming out of my home town because of the increased German presence over the last eight years. The theory is that the techniques are actually rubbing off on the locals as well. But I wouldn't know, I don't drink the imports, or the locals, or the national brands. Now my collection of Chai is currently enviable. _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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            • E El Corazon

              Martin Häsemeyer wrote:

              I don't know anyway if americans know what to do with brewer's yeast...

              Rumor has it that some of the finest micro-brews are coming out of my home town because of the increased German presence over the last eight years. The theory is that the techniques are actually rubbing off on the locals as well. But I wouldn't know, I don't drink the imports, or the locals, or the national brands. Now my collection of Chai is currently enviable. _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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              Martin Haesemeyer
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              Jeffry J. Brickley wrote:

              Now my collection of Chai is currently enviable.

              Good Chai is a great thing, bad Chai (i.e. Starbucks variant f.e.) is a really bad thing (much like beer actually IMHO)... Cheers Martin "When your own heart asks - how will you respond?" Gosen waka shū "Situation normal - all fu***d up" Illuminatus! My photos on flickr

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              • V VAIO Blue

                I believe there are no forever empire in the world, but what do you think would be the trigger that causes the collapse of US?

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                Allah On Acid
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                People are allowing their freedom to be taken away, they will give up just about any rights if they are told it will make them "safer". We have already pretty much lost the fourth ammendment, they are working on the first and second ones. "Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are inevitably ruined." - Patrick Henry

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                • M Martin Haesemeyer

                  Jeffry J. Brickley wrote:

                  Now my collection of Chai is currently enviable.

                  Good Chai is a great thing, bad Chai (i.e. Starbucks variant f.e.) is a really bad thing (much like beer actually IMHO)... Cheers Martin "When your own heart asks - how will you respond?" Gosen waka shū "Situation normal - all fu***d up" Illuminatus! My photos on flickr

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                  El Corazon
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                  Martin Häsemeyer wrote:

                  Good Chai is a great thing, bad Chai (i.e. Starbucks variant f.e.) is a really bad thing

                  I was introduced to Chai, like many in the USA, through Starbucks and its kin (actually a small town college coffee shop while working early AM shifts)... which is the best thing that can be said about it. As I began collecting variations from brand to imports, I would definately agree. _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                  • J Judah Gabriel Himango

                    It would put the US in a disposition, for sure, but even worse, it would send many Middle East nations back to the Middle Ages.

                    Tech, life, family, faith: Give me a visit. I'm currently blogging about: Goof around music jam with my brothers (with video) The apostle Paul, modernly speaking: Epistles of Paul Judah Himango

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                    kgaddy
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                    Did you see Lawrence of Arabia? Without oil the middle east would again be a bunch of tribes running around on camels killing each other over water. My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking"

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                    • C Cedric Moonen

                      An invasion of alien blue cows ?


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                      Lost User
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                      Funny, I was thinking purple.... The tigress is here :-D

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                      • C Chris Losinger

                        when brewer's yeast rises up and refuses to work for Man any longer. Cleek | Image Toolkits | Thumbnail maker

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                        Lost User
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                        Careful, people might have to think about that one :laugh: The tigress is here :-D -- modified at 11:52 Thursday 1st June, 2006

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                        • K kgaddy

                          Did you see Lawrence of Arabia? Without oil the middle east would again be a bunch of tribes running around on camels killing each other over water. My mom told me once that "while we all don't speak the same language, everyone in the world undestands an asskicking"

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                          Judah Gabriel Himango
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                          Yeah. I see I got voted down a bit for that; I didn't say that with derogatory intentions, just so everyone knows. Running out of oil would be bad for the oil-driven West as well as the oil-driven economies of the Middle East.

                          Tech, life, family, faith: Give me a visit. I'm currently blogging about: Goof around music jam with my brothers (with video) The apostle Paul, modernly speaking: Epistles of Paul Judah Himango

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                          • J Jerry Hammond

                            VAIO Blue wrote:

                            I believe there are no forever empire in the world, but what do you think would be the trigger that causes the collapse of US?

                            The moment we realize that we are in fact an empire.

                            “Profanity is the attempt of a lazy and feeble mind to express itself forcefully”

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                            Lost User
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                            The US has been an empire for a long time. The tigress is here :-D

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                            • C Christopher Duncan

                              Any particular reason you're promoting the demise of my country? Author of The Career Programmer and Unite the Tribes Know someone who desperately needs to get a clue? Visit www.DownloadAClue.com and send them one!

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                              Michael P Butler
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                              Christopher Duncan wrote:

                              Any particular reason you're promoting the demise of my country?

                              I thought he was talking about a fictional US empire. Contrary to popular belief, America isn't a conquering empire. Now when the second British Empire is built, he may have cause to worry. Michael CP Blog [^] Development Blog [^]

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                                The US has been an empire for a long time. The tigress is here :-D

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                                Jerry Hammond
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                                I would not call 1945-Present "a long time". As far as I'm concerned the USofA is not so much an empire by intent, but a provincial society being sucked into the vacuum left by the death of the colonial powers of the 19th and 20th centuries.

                                “Profanity is the attempt of a lazy and feeble mind to express itself forcefully”

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                                  I believe there are no forever empire in the world, but what do you think would be the trigger that causes the collapse of US?

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                                  When the color of yeast is evenly divisible by the number of the beast.


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                                    I believe there are no forever empire in the world, but what do you think would be the trigger that causes the collapse of US?

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                                    Chris Maunder
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                                    Black M&Ms. It's one of the signs of the apocalypse. cheers, Chris Maunder

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                                    • Z Zac Howland

                                      Blake Miller wrote:

                                      And the majority of ignorant voters with their entitlement mentality

                                      By "entitlment mentality", I assume you mean treating Uncle Sam like he is their long lost rich dad who happens to have a huge trust fund just for them? :P If you decide to become a software engineer, you are signing up to have a 1/2" piece of silicon tell you exactly how stupid you really are for 8 hours a day, 5 days a week Zac

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                                      code frog 0
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                                      He also means that foreigners think they can walk in and with the assistance of the ACLU start changing our constitution. They do and are. Pretty soon the white, middle-aged American will be the minority and we will have no rights. It's called a non-hostile take-over and corporate greed will be what makes it all happen. The problem that will take out America is greed. Look at our debt, it's pretty obvious. Watch our currency keep dropping...


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                                        He also means that foreigners think they can walk in and with the assistance of the ACLU start changing our constitution. They do and are. Pretty soon the white, middle-aged American will be the minority and we will have no rights. It's called a non-hostile take-over and corporate greed will be what makes it all happen. The problem that will take out America is greed. Look at our debt, it's pretty obvious. Watch our currency keep dropping...


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                                        Zac Howland
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                                        code-frog wrote:

                                        The problem that will take out America is greed. Look at our debt, it's pretty obvious. Watch our currency keep dropping...

                                        Greed is a problem, but the US doesn't have a lock on that market, it is a worldwide problem (always has been). The rest of the world actually needs the US to stay in debt. If we ever paid off our debt completely, we would probably let the rest of the world go to hell. Since we owe a few of them money, we have to help out (more than) occassionally. Interestingly enough, it is quite possible to lower taxes and decrease the national debt ... however, it requires that we put some congressmen in office that have brains and realize what their job is and is not. If you decide to become a software engineer, you are signing up to have a 1/2" piece of silicon tell you exactly how stupid you really are for 8 hours a day, 5 days a week Zac

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                                        • M Michael P Butler

                                          Christopher Duncan wrote:

                                          Any particular reason you're promoting the demise of my country?

                                          I thought he was talking about a fictional US empire. Contrary to popular belief, America isn't a conquering empire. Now when the second British Empire is built, he may have cause to worry. Michael CP Blog [^] Development Blog [^]

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                                          Michael P Butler wrote:

                                          Now when the second British Empire is built, he may have cause to worry

                                          Please explain ...

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