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  • R Red Stateler

    We have the freedom to allow all that if we wished. However, not being a civilization in decline, we choose not to.

    fat_boy wrote:

    We have free health care

    I hate to break it to you...but no it isn't.

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    Jorgen Sigvardsson
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    espeir wrote:

    However, not being a civilization in decline, we choose not to.

    Judging by the rate all the crazy evangelicals are growing, you'll soon be as civilized as any other theocracy. And you know what? Catholics are looked down upon by them. You're catholic, right? I seem to vaguely remember that you admitted to that. Some of the evangelicals will so far as to say that the pope is antichrist. Good luck being... civilized. :)

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    • R Red Stateler

      Actually in a separate poll (which I don't have handy), the US actually lead the world in an international poll for both quality and quantity of sex. So I guess your assumptions are wrong.

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      Jorgen Sigvardsson
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      I've seen statistics that basically says that the poorer people are, the more kids they produce.

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      • R Red Stateler

        Spanish men also don't know how to please a woman. The average woman in the US has 2.09 children and in Spain they only have 1.28. Perhaps that chauvinism is masking something deeper.

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        espeir wrote:

        Spanish men also don't know how to please a woman. The average woman in the US has 2.09 children and in Spain they only have 1.28. Perhaps that chauvinism is masking something deeper.

        Ummm, I'm gonna go ahead and point out the subtle comedy... "Spanish men also don't know how to please a woman" followed by "Perhaps that chauvinism is masking something deeper"... Like a french boyfriend with a big wanker...

        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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        "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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        • R Red Stateler

          fat_boy wrote:

          the 10 million or so illegal imigrants are not considered.

          They're not Americans. The 10 million or so illegal immigrants from the Middle East aren't counted in Spain either.

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          espeir wrote:

          They're not Americans

          Except that they live in the US, contribute to the economy, and would get the green card if they could. There would have to be 2.5 million illegal imigrants in spain to get anywhere near the percentage the US has. Go dig up some figures. Nunc est bibendum

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            espeir wrote:

            They're not Americans

            Except that they live in the US, contribute to the economy, and would get the green card if they could. There would have to be 2.5 million illegal imigrants in spain to get anywhere near the percentage the US has. Go dig up some figures. Nunc est bibendum

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            Allah On Acid
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            fat_boy wrote:

            and would get the green card if they could.

            Interesting that somehow so many Indians and Asians got here legally, but you seem to think that the illegals are incapable of that. Stand rigid for the next battle Peace means reloading your guns The love for life is all hatred in disguise - Dimmu Borgir

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              No, you are just puritanical and repressed.

              espeir wrote:

              no it isn't.

              It is. And dont state the obvious; 'it comes out of taxation; of course it fucking does. To a non, or very low yax payer it is free. Nunc est bibendum

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              Red Stateler
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              fat_boy wrote:

              No, you are just puritanical and repressed.

              If we are, then it's because we have the freedom to be that way. Europe does not have that freedom. Where we see freedom as the ability to control our collective destiny, you see freedom as the general restriction to do that. That is the first indication of a society in decline.

              fat_boy wrote:

              It is. And dont state the obvious; 'it comes out of taxation; of course it f****ing does. To a non, or very low yax payer it is free.

              You're proud of that? :confused:

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                Not if you're from the wrong country... :)

                "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                In all fairness to Oxford's Dictionary, it does mention the american spelling. On the other hand, the american spelling for similar words is smarter, because it conveys the actual pronounciation better than the british counterparts. Definately more foreigner friendly. ;)

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                  fat_boy wrote:

                  Free? You dont know the meaning of free.

                  You must be an arrogant asshole to tell that to an American, being from the UK yourself. In the UK you have "knife amnesites", and will put anyone in jail for 4 years for having a pocket knife. In the UK your police arrest young children of making "racist" remarks. The police in the UK can do pretty much whatever they like if they label someone a "terrorist". Wheras Americans have the right to free speech, the right to be armed (which i am), the right against unreasonable searches and confiscations by the police (but the police do violate this one sometimes). Freedom means more than petty little things like speed limits and holidays. Stand rigid for the next battle Peace means reloading your guns The love for life is all hatred in disguise - Dimmu Borgir

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                  Lost User
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                  Oh yes, I forgot, carying a gun makes you so free.

                  Score: 1.0 (1 vote). wrote:

                  jail for 4 years for having a pocket knife

                  Bollocks.

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                  Wheras Americans have the right to free speech

                  And we dont in the UK? In fact the whole of europe? Nunc est bibendum

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                  • R Red Stateler

                    America's* Literacy rate (link[^]): 99% Spain's literacy rate (link[^]): 97.9% so Spain is about twice as illiterate as the United States. Not only that, but they elected communists in order to appease Al Qaeda. What a bunch of wussies. *Note that this figure has been adjusted to only include the United States. Venezuela was not counted. -- modified at 9:10 Thursday 22nd June, 2006

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                    Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                    OMFG!!!!! Swedes are just as literate as US citizens! I'M SO PROUD TO BE JUST AS LITERATE AS YOU ARE! PLEASE MAKE ME YOUR BROTHER! Whatever.

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                      espeir wrote:

                      However, not being a civilization in decline, we choose not to.

                      Judging by the rate all the crazy evangelicals are growing, you'll soon be as civilized as any other theocracy. And you know what? Catholics are looked down upon by them. You're catholic, right? I seem to vaguely remember that you admitted to that. Some of the evangelicals will so far as to say that the pope is antichrist. Good luck being... civilized. :)

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                      Red Stateler
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                      Actually "evangelicals" as you see them represent a very small minority of Christian in this country. A Southern Baptist is not an "evangelical" as you see them. I've also known many protestants in my life (my grabdfather is a protestant preacher) and with the exception of one in college who said the pope has a stupid hat, I've never experienced anything but kindness from them. Being an American and pro-freedom, I whole-heartedly support religious people regardless of their religion (as long as they don't blow people up). That's quite different from Europe where such practice is generally frowned upon.

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                      • A Allah On Acid

                        fat_boy wrote:

                        and would get the green card if they could.

                        Interesting that somehow so many Indians and Asians got here legally, but you seem to think that the illegals are incapable of that. Stand rigid for the next battle Peace means reloading your guns The love for life is all hatred in disguise - Dimmu Borgir

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                        Lost User
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                        What the fuck? Nunc est bibendum

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                        • R Red Stateler

                          RichardGrimmer wrote:

                          But by the soame token, you lot should be lumped in with Canada (a bonus) and all the south american countries (not so much) - well you're all in the Americas aren't you....wonder what THAT would do to the literacy figures

                          We're not part of a unified economic and political unit like the EU.

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                          RichardGrimmer
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                          espeir wrote:

                          We're not part of a unified economic and political unit like the EU.

                          What's that got to do with it - you said Spain is in Europe - which it is - and I came back with well America is in the Americas.... I fail to see the problem hehe "Now I guess I'll sit back and watch people misinterpret what I just said......" Christian Graus At The Soapbox

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                          • R Red Stateler

                            fat_boy wrote:

                            No, you are just puritanical and repressed.

                            If we are, then it's because we have the freedom to be that way. Europe does not have that freedom. Where we see freedom as the ability to control our collective destiny, you see freedom as the general restriction to do that. That is the first indication of a society in decline.

                            fat_boy wrote:

                            It is. And dont state the obvious; 'it comes out of taxation; of course it f****ing does. To a non, or very low yax payer it is free.

                            You're proud of that? :confused:

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                            Lost User
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                            Where do you get this crap from? Your newspapers? TV?

                            espeir wrote:

                            You're proud of that?

                            Thats the diference between a society that cares for the less fortuante and the US. Nunc est bibendum

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                              Ha ha. Yeah so free. You cant drink alcohol in parks and on beaches. You cant smoke dope legally. You cant buy drink in a mac donalds. Your women cant go topless on any beach they want. You have 11 holidays a year, as opposed to 22 here, plus a couple of weeks if your wife gives birth. We have free health care, and it is good. We can drive at 85 mph in France, unlimited in a lot of germany. Free? You dont know the meaning of free. Nunc est bibendum

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                              Nish Nishant
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                              fat_boy wrote:

                              Free? You dont know the meaning of free.

                              :laugh: Regards, Nish


                              Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                              Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New)

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                                Oh yes, I forgot, carying a gun makes you so free.

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                                jail for 4 years for having a pocket knife

                                Bollocks.

                                Score: 1.0 (1 vote). wrote:

                                Wheras Americans have the right to free speech

                                And we dont in the UK? In fact the whole of europe? Nunc est bibendum

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                                Red Stateler
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                                fat_boy wrote:

                                Oh yes, I forgot, carying a gun makes you so free.

                                But not being allowed to have a gun doesn't make you free? So you're free because you have the freedoms that your government allows you to have? :confused:

                                fat_boy wrote:

                                Bollocks.

                                It's true according to another Brit on here.

                                fat_boy wrote:

                                And we dont in the UK? In fact the whole of europe?

                                Per his example, you don't have free speech.

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                                • R Red Stateler

                                  Dan Bennett wrote:

                                  I am honoured

                                  It's spelled "honored". ;P

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                                  Jerry Hammond
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                                  Both are correct.:)

                                  “Profanity is the attempt of a lazy and feeble mind to express itself forcefully”

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                                  • R Red Stateler

                                    Spanish men also don't know how to please a woman. The average woman in the US has 2.09 children and in Spain they only have 1.28. Perhaps that chauvinism is masking something deeper.

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                                    Jerry Hammond
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                                    Or not deep enough :::rim shot:::

                                    “Profanity is the attempt of a lazy and feeble mind to express itself forcefully”

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                                    • A Allah On Acid

                                      The people who vote down any post positive about America are just jealous about our freedom. Stand rigid for the next battle Peace means reloading your guns The love for life is all hatred in disguise - Dimmu Borgir

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                                      Jerry Hammond
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                                      Or concerned.

                                      “Profanity is the attempt of a lazy and feeble mind to express itself forcefully”

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                                      • L Lost User

                                        Ha ha. Yeah so free. You cant drink alcohol in parks and on beaches. You cant smoke dope legally. You cant buy drink in a mac donalds. Your women cant go topless on any beach they want. You have 11 holidays a year, as opposed to 22 here, plus a couple of weeks if your wife gives birth. We have free health care, and it is good. We can drive at 85 mph in France, unlimited in a lot of germany. Free? You dont know the meaning of free. Nunc est bibendum

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                                        brianwelsch
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                                        fat_boy wrote:

                                        We have free health care, and it is good.

                                        Actually, anyone who shows up at an emergency room gets free treatment, including illegal aliens. Most people are covered with private insurance paid by employers, the rest are [also] riding on someone elses dime. The other stuff is irrelevent bullshit. BW


                                        If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
                                        -- Steven Wright

                                        -- modified at 11:43 Thursday 22nd June, 2006

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                                          Oh yes, I forgot, carying a gun makes you so free.

                                          Score: 1.0 (1 vote). wrote:

                                          jail for 4 years for having a pocket knife

                                          Bollocks.

                                          Score: 1.0 (1 vote). wrote:

                                          Wheras Americans have the right to free speech

                                          And we dont in the UK? In fact the whole of europe? Nunc est bibendum

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                                          Allah On Acid
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                                          fat_boy wrote:

                                          Oh yes, I forgot, carying a gun makes you so free.

                                          It does not make you free, but it does give a population recourse against a tyrannical government. Totalitarian governments always disarm the population, so they dont end up like the redocats did 200 years ago.

                                          fat_boy wrote:

                                          Bollocks.

                                          Clickety[^] Ministers are also proposing to double the sentence for possessing a knife or offensive weapon from two years to four I was partly wrong, the sentence is two years, but they are trying to make it four. Stand rigid for the next battle Peace means reloading your guns The love for life is all hatred in disguise - Dimmu Borgir

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