America Smarter than Spain [modified]
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fat_boy wrote:
the 10 million or so illegal imigrants are not considered.
They're not Americans. The 10 million or so illegal immigrants from the Middle East aren't counted in Spain either.
espeir wrote:
They're not Americans
Except that they live in the US, contribute to the economy, and would get the green card if they could. There would have to be 2.5 million illegal imigrants in spain to get anywhere near the percentage the US has. Go dig up some figures. Nunc est bibendum
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espeir wrote:
They're not Americans
Except that they live in the US, contribute to the economy, and would get the green card if they could. There would have to be 2.5 million illegal imigrants in spain to get anywhere near the percentage the US has. Go dig up some figures. Nunc est bibendum
fat_boy wrote:
and would get the green card if they could.
Interesting that somehow so many Indians and Asians got here legally, but you seem to think that the illegals are incapable of that. Stand rigid for the next battle Peace means reloading your guns The love for life is all hatred in disguise - Dimmu Borgir
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No, you are just puritanical and repressed.
espeir wrote:
no it isn't.
It is. And dont state the obvious; 'it comes out of taxation; of course it fucking does. To a non, or very low yax payer it is free. Nunc est bibendum
fat_boy wrote:
No, you are just puritanical and repressed.
If we are, then it's because we have the freedom to be that way. Europe does not have that freedom. Where we see freedom as the ability to control our collective destiny, you see freedom as the general restriction to do that. That is the first indication of a society in decline.
fat_boy wrote:
It is. And dont state the obvious; 'it comes out of taxation; of course it f****ing does. To a non, or very low yax payer it is free.
You're proud of that? :confused:
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Not if you're from the wrong country... :)
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001In all fairness to Oxford's Dictionary, it does mention the american spelling. On the other hand, the american spelling for similar words is smarter, because it conveys the actual pronounciation better than the british counterparts. Definately more foreigner friendly. ;)
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fat_boy wrote:
Free? You dont know the meaning of free.
You must be an arrogant asshole to tell that to an American, being from the UK yourself. In the UK you have "knife amnesites", and will put anyone in jail for 4 years for having a pocket knife. In the UK your police arrest young children of making "racist" remarks. The police in the UK can do pretty much whatever they like if they label someone a "terrorist". Wheras Americans have the right to free speech, the right to be armed (which i am), the right against unreasonable searches and confiscations by the police (but the police do violate this one sometimes). Freedom means more than petty little things like speed limits and holidays. Stand rigid for the next battle Peace means reloading your guns The love for life is all hatred in disguise - Dimmu Borgir
Oh yes, I forgot, carying a gun makes you so free.
Score: 1.0 (1 vote). wrote:
jail for 4 years for having a pocket knife
Bollocks.
Score: 1.0 (1 vote). wrote:
Wheras Americans have the right to free speech
And we dont in the UK? In fact the whole of europe? Nunc est bibendum
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America's* Literacy rate (link[^]): 99% Spain's literacy rate (link[^]): 97.9% so Spain is about twice as illiterate as the United States. Not only that, but they elected communists in order to appease Al Qaeda. What a bunch of wussies. *Note that this figure has been adjusted to only include the United States. Venezuela was not counted. -- modified at 9:10 Thursday 22nd June, 2006
OMFG!!!!! Swedes are just as literate as US citizens! I'M SO PROUD TO BE JUST AS LITERATE AS YOU ARE! PLEASE MAKE ME YOUR BROTHER! Whatever.
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espeir wrote:
However, not being a civilization in decline, we choose not to.
Judging by the rate all the crazy evangelicals are growing, you'll soon be as civilized as any other theocracy. And you know what? Catholics are looked down upon by them. You're catholic, right? I seem to vaguely remember that you admitted to that. Some of the evangelicals will so far as to say that the pope is antichrist. Good luck being... civilized. :)
Actually "evangelicals" as you see them represent a very small minority of Christian in this country. A Southern Baptist is not an "evangelical" as you see them. I've also known many protestants in my life (my grabdfather is a protestant preacher) and with the exception of one in college who said the pope has a stupid hat, I've never experienced anything but kindness from them. Being an American and pro-freedom, I whole-heartedly support religious people regardless of their religion (as long as they don't blow people up). That's quite different from Europe where such practice is generally frowned upon.
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fat_boy wrote:
and would get the green card if they could.
Interesting that somehow so many Indians and Asians got here legally, but you seem to think that the illegals are incapable of that. Stand rigid for the next battle Peace means reloading your guns The love for life is all hatred in disguise - Dimmu Borgir
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RichardGrimmer wrote:
But by the soame token, you lot should be lumped in with Canada (a bonus) and all the south american countries (not so much) - well you're all in the Americas aren't you....wonder what THAT would do to the literacy figures
We're not part of a unified economic and political unit like the EU.
espeir wrote:
We're not part of a unified economic and political unit like the EU.
What's that got to do with it - you said Spain is in Europe - which it is - and I came back with well America is in the Americas.... I fail to see the problem hehe "Now I guess I'll sit back and watch people misinterpret what I just said......" Christian Graus At The Soapbox
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fat_boy wrote:
No, you are just puritanical and repressed.
If we are, then it's because we have the freedom to be that way. Europe does not have that freedom. Where we see freedom as the ability to control our collective destiny, you see freedom as the general restriction to do that. That is the first indication of a society in decline.
fat_boy wrote:
It is. And dont state the obvious; 'it comes out of taxation; of course it f****ing does. To a non, or very low yax payer it is free.
You're proud of that? :confused:
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Ha ha. Yeah so free. You cant drink alcohol in parks and on beaches. You cant smoke dope legally. You cant buy drink in a mac donalds. Your women cant go topless on any beach they want. You have 11 holidays a year, as opposed to 22 here, plus a couple of weeks if your wife gives birth. We have free health care, and it is good. We can drive at 85 mph in France, unlimited in a lot of germany. Free? You dont know the meaning of free. Nunc est bibendum
fat_boy wrote:
Free? You dont know the meaning of free.
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Oh yes, I forgot, carying a gun makes you so free.
Score: 1.0 (1 vote). wrote:
jail for 4 years for having a pocket knife
Bollocks.
Score: 1.0 (1 vote). wrote:
Wheras Americans have the right to free speech
And we dont in the UK? In fact the whole of europe? Nunc est bibendum
fat_boy wrote:
Oh yes, I forgot, carying a gun makes you so free.
But not being allowed to have a gun doesn't make you free? So you're free because you have the freedoms that your government allows you to have? :confused:
fat_boy wrote:
Bollocks.
It's true according to another Brit on here.
fat_boy wrote:
And we dont in the UK? In fact the whole of europe?
Per his example, you don't have free speech.
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Dan Bennett wrote:
I am honoured
It's spelled "honored". ;P
Both are correct.:)
“Profanity is the attempt of a lazy and feeble mind to express itself forcefully”
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Spanish men also don't know how to please a woman. The average woman in the US has 2.09 children and in Spain they only have 1.28. Perhaps that chauvinism is masking something deeper.
Or not deep enough :::rim shot:::
“Profanity is the attempt of a lazy and feeble mind to express itself forcefully”
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The people who vote down any post positive about America are just jealous about our freedom. Stand rigid for the next battle Peace means reloading your guns The love for life is all hatred in disguise - Dimmu Borgir
Or concerned.
“Profanity is the attempt of a lazy and feeble mind to express itself forcefully”
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Ha ha. Yeah so free. You cant drink alcohol in parks and on beaches. You cant smoke dope legally. You cant buy drink in a mac donalds. Your women cant go topless on any beach they want. You have 11 holidays a year, as opposed to 22 here, plus a couple of weeks if your wife gives birth. We have free health care, and it is good. We can drive at 85 mph in France, unlimited in a lot of germany. Free? You dont know the meaning of free. Nunc est bibendum
fat_boy wrote:
We have free health care, and it is good.
Actually, anyone who shows up at an emergency room gets free treatment, including illegal aliens. Most people are covered with private insurance paid by employers, the rest are [also] riding on someone elses dime. The other stuff is irrelevent bullshit. BW
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
-- Steven Wright-- modified at 11:43 Thursday 22nd June, 2006
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Oh yes, I forgot, carying a gun makes you so free.
Score: 1.0 (1 vote). wrote:
jail for 4 years for having a pocket knife
Bollocks.
Score: 1.0 (1 vote). wrote:
Wheras Americans have the right to free speech
And we dont in the UK? In fact the whole of europe? Nunc est bibendum
fat_boy wrote:
Oh yes, I forgot, carying a gun makes you so free.
It does not make you free, but it does give a population recourse against a tyrannical government. Totalitarian governments always disarm the population, so they dont end up like the redocats did 200 years ago.
fat_boy wrote:
Bollocks.
Clickety[^] Ministers are also proposing to double the sentence for possessing a knife or offensive weapon from two years to four I was partly wrong, the sentence is two years, but they are trying to make it four. Stand rigid for the next battle Peace means reloading your guns The love for life is all hatred in disguise - Dimmu Borgir
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Actually "evangelicals" as you see them represent a very small minority of Christian in this country. A Southern Baptist is not an "evangelical" as you see them. I've also known many protestants in my life (my grabdfather is a protestant preacher) and with the exception of one in college who said the pope has a stupid hat, I've never experienced anything but kindness from them. Being an American and pro-freedom, I whole-heartedly support religious people regardless of their religion (as long as they don't blow people up). That's quite different from Europe where such practice is generally frowned upon.
espeir wrote:
Actually "evangelicals" as you see them represent a very small minority of Christian in this country.
I've seen and heard their leader speak. Scary man.
espeir wrote:
That's quite different from Europe where such practice is generally frowned upon.
The practice of believing or supporting believing people? Swedes in general are agnostics, leaning towards "there's got to be something bigger than me". At least, that's the impression I get when talking to people. Of course, there are "hardcore" religious people too, but you only get to hear about them whenever they've killed or conspired to kill someone. In my youth, I was involved (believe it or not) in a church. 2 years of listening to "non-believers has less worth"-rhetoric, I decided that enough is enough. The best thing about not adhering to some old doctrine, is that you are free to change your mind, without the fear of divine repercussion. And you know what? Eventhough I'm godless, I'm still not interested in bestiality, or any other morally suspicious activities.
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Where do you get this crap from? Your newspapers? TV?
espeir wrote:
You're proud of that?
Thats the diference between a society that cares for the less fortuante and the US. Nunc est bibendum
fat_boy wrote:
Where do you get this crap from? Your newspapers? TV?
I'm highly educated by a truly free society where we have the ability to shape ourselves. I am therefore able to see a spade and call it thus.
fat_boy wrote:
Thats the diference between a society that cares for the less fortuante and the US.
A society is incapable of caring. It is merely a conceptual entity. By forcing people to care for other through automatic deduction, you actually separate people from their good deeds and they receive no spiritual reward. The US, on the other hand, leads the world in charitable donations because we are comprised of truly caring individuals...Not a series of tax deductions whose benefits are reduced by bureaucracy.
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fat_boy wrote:
What the f***?
:doh: Stand rigid for the next battle Peace means reloading your guns The love for life is all hatred in disguise - Dimmu Borgir
