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  • L Lost User

    Ha ha. Yeah so free. You cant drink alcohol in parks and on beaches. You cant smoke dope legally. You cant buy drink in a mac donalds. Your women cant go topless on any beach they want. You have 11 holidays a year, as opposed to 22 here, plus a couple of weeks if your wife gives birth. We have free health care, and it is good. We can drive at 85 mph in France, unlimited in a lot of germany. Free? You dont know the meaning of free. Nunc est bibendum

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    Nish Nishant
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    fat_boy wrote:

    Free? You dont know the meaning of free.

    :laugh: Regards, Nish


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    • L Lost User

      Oh yes, I forgot, carying a gun makes you so free.

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      jail for 4 years for having a pocket knife

      Bollocks.

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      Wheras Americans have the right to free speech

      And we dont in the UK? In fact the whole of europe? Nunc est bibendum

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      Red Stateler
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      fat_boy wrote:

      Oh yes, I forgot, carying a gun makes you so free.

      But not being allowed to have a gun doesn't make you free? So you're free because you have the freedoms that your government allows you to have? :confused:

      fat_boy wrote:

      Bollocks.

      It's true according to another Brit on here.

      fat_boy wrote:

      And we dont in the UK? In fact the whole of europe?

      Per his example, you don't have free speech.

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      • R Red Stateler

        Dan Bennett wrote:

        I am honoured

        It's spelled "honored". ;P

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        Jerry Hammond
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        Both are correct.:)

        “Profanity is the attempt of a lazy and feeble mind to express itself forcefully”

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        • R Red Stateler

          Spanish men also don't know how to please a woman. The average woman in the US has 2.09 children and in Spain they only have 1.28. Perhaps that chauvinism is masking something deeper.

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          Jerry Hammond
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          Or not deep enough :::rim shot:::

          “Profanity is the attempt of a lazy and feeble mind to express itself forcefully”

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          • A Allah On Acid

            The people who vote down any post positive about America are just jealous about our freedom. Stand rigid for the next battle Peace means reloading your guns The love for life is all hatred in disguise - Dimmu Borgir

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            Jerry Hammond
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            Or concerned.

            “Profanity is the attempt of a lazy and feeble mind to express itself forcefully”

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            • L Lost User

              Ha ha. Yeah so free. You cant drink alcohol in parks and on beaches. You cant smoke dope legally. You cant buy drink in a mac donalds. Your women cant go topless on any beach they want. You have 11 holidays a year, as opposed to 22 here, plus a couple of weeks if your wife gives birth. We have free health care, and it is good. We can drive at 85 mph in France, unlimited in a lot of germany. Free? You dont know the meaning of free. Nunc est bibendum

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              brianwelsch
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              fat_boy wrote:

              We have free health care, and it is good.

              Actually, anyone who shows up at an emergency room gets free treatment, including illegal aliens. Most people are covered with private insurance paid by employers, the rest are [also] riding on someone elses dime. The other stuff is irrelevent bullshit. BW


              If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
              -- Steven Wright

              -- modified at 11:43 Thursday 22nd June, 2006

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              • L Lost User

                Oh yes, I forgot, carying a gun makes you so free.

                Score: 1.0 (1 vote). wrote:

                jail for 4 years for having a pocket knife

                Bollocks.

                Score: 1.0 (1 vote). wrote:

                Wheras Americans have the right to free speech

                And we dont in the UK? In fact the whole of europe? Nunc est bibendum

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                Allah On Acid
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                fat_boy wrote:

                Oh yes, I forgot, carying a gun makes you so free.

                It does not make you free, but it does give a population recourse against a tyrannical government. Totalitarian governments always disarm the population, so they dont end up like the redocats did 200 years ago.

                fat_boy wrote:

                Bollocks.

                Clickety[^] Ministers are also proposing to double the sentence for possessing a knife or offensive weapon from two years to four I was partly wrong, the sentence is two years, but they are trying to make it four. Stand rigid for the next battle Peace means reloading your guns The love for life is all hatred in disguise - Dimmu Borgir

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                • R Red Stateler

                  Actually "evangelicals" as you see them represent a very small minority of Christian in this country. A Southern Baptist is not an "evangelical" as you see them. I've also known many protestants in my life (my grabdfather is a protestant preacher) and with the exception of one in college who said the pope has a stupid hat, I've never experienced anything but kindness from them. Being an American and pro-freedom, I whole-heartedly support religious people regardless of their religion (as long as they don't blow people up). That's quite different from Europe where such practice is generally frowned upon.

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                  Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                  espeir wrote:

                  Actually "evangelicals" as you see them represent a very small minority of Christian in this country.

                  I've seen and heard their leader speak. Scary man.

                  espeir wrote:

                  That's quite different from Europe where such practice is generally frowned upon.

                  The practice of believing or supporting believing people? Swedes in general are agnostics, leaning towards "there's got to be something bigger than me". At least, that's the impression I get when talking to people. Of course, there are "hardcore" religious people too, but you only get to hear about them whenever they've killed or conspired to kill someone. In my youth, I was involved (believe it or not) in a church. 2 years of listening to "non-believers has less worth"-rhetoric, I decided that enough is enough. The best thing about not adhering to some old doctrine, is that you are free to change your mind, without the fear of divine repercussion. And you know what? Eventhough I'm godless, I'm still not interested in bestiality, or any other morally suspicious activities.

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                  • L Lost User

                    Where do you get this crap from? Your newspapers? TV?

                    espeir wrote:

                    You're proud of that?

                    Thats the diference between a society that cares for the less fortuante and the US. Nunc est bibendum

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                    Red Stateler
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                    fat_boy wrote:

                    Where do you get this crap from? Your newspapers? TV?

                    I'm highly educated by a truly free society where we have the ability to shape ourselves. I am therefore able to see a spade and call it thus.

                    fat_boy wrote:

                    Thats the diference between a society that cares for the less fortuante and the US.

                    A society is incapable of caring. It is merely a conceptual entity. By forcing people to care for other through automatic deduction, you actually separate people from their good deeds and they receive no spiritual reward. The US, on the other hand, leads the world in charitable donations because we are comprised of truly caring individuals...Not a series of tax deductions whose benefits are reduced by bureaucracy.

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                    • L Lost User

                      What the fuck? Nunc est bibendum

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                      Allah On Acid
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                      fat_boy wrote:

                      What the f***?

                      :doh: Stand rigid for the next battle Peace means reloading your guns The love for life is all hatred in disguise - Dimmu Borgir

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                      • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

                        espeir wrote:

                        Actually "evangelicals" as you see them represent a very small minority of Christian in this country.

                        I've seen and heard their leader speak. Scary man.

                        espeir wrote:

                        That's quite different from Europe where such practice is generally frowned upon.

                        The practice of believing or supporting believing people? Swedes in general are agnostics, leaning towards "there's got to be something bigger than me". At least, that's the impression I get when talking to people. Of course, there are "hardcore" religious people too, but you only get to hear about them whenever they've killed or conspired to kill someone. In my youth, I was involved (believe it or not) in a church. 2 years of listening to "non-believers has less worth"-rhetoric, I decided that enough is enough. The best thing about not adhering to some old doctrine, is that you are free to change your mind, without the fear of divine repercussion. And you know what? Eventhough I'm godless, I'm still not interested in bestiality, or any other morally suspicious activities.

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                        Red Stateler
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                        Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:

                        I've seen and heard their leader speak. Scary man.

                        You're scared of the peaceful practice of religion? Given Europe's rich history of oppressing and even killing anybody who's religion differs with their own, and given that the religion du jour in Europe is atheism, I find the fact that you find such people scary in itself...scary.

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                        • R Red Stateler

                          America's* Literacy rate (link[^]): 99% Spain's literacy rate (link[^]): 97.9% so Spain is about twice as illiterate as the United States. Not only that, but they elected communists in order to appease Al Qaeda. What a bunch of wussies. *Note that this figure has been adjusted to only include the United States. Venezuela was not counted. -- modified at 9:10 Thursday 22nd June, 2006

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                          AndyKEnZ
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                          Is that America the continent or the USA the in-continent? Hey CIA as a source of facts, this just gets better. Thanks. :-D 'ta luego con~o Andy

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                          • R Red Stateler

                            fat_boy wrote:

                            Oh yes, I forgot, carying a gun makes you so free.

                            But not being allowed to have a gun doesn't make you free? So you're free because you have the freedoms that your government allows you to have? :confused:

                            fat_boy wrote:

                            Bollocks.

                            It's true according to another Brit on here.

                            fat_boy wrote:

                            And we dont in the UK? In fact the whole of europe?

                            Per his example, you don't have free speech.

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                            Ryan Roberts
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                            It's 6 years (minimum) for replica and real firearms (including semi-realistic air soft weapons). Can also get screwed by some air pistols as they are easily modified. Basically, it will be illegal to shave in public within a decade, while gangs of 16 year olds have ready access to illegal firearms. The poster boy for the recent knife amnesty was a batleth Klingon thingy, because everybody knows trekkies have a tendency for massive violence. Ryan

                            "Michael Moore and Mel Gibson are the same person, except for a few sit-ups. Moore thought his cheesy political blooper reel was going to tell people how to vote. Mel thought that his little gay SM movie about his imaginary friend was going to help him get to heaven." - Penn Jillette

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                            • A Allah On Acid

                              fat_boy wrote:

                              Oh yes, I forgot, carying a gun makes you so free.

                              It does not make you free, but it does give a population recourse against a tyrannical government. Totalitarian governments always disarm the population, so they dont end up like the redocats did 200 years ago.

                              fat_boy wrote:

                              Bollocks.

                              Clickety[^] Ministers are also proposing to double the sentence for possessing a knife or offensive weapon from two years to four I was partly wrong, the sentence is two years, but they are trying to make it four. Stand rigid for the next battle Peace means reloading your guns The love for life is all hatred in disguise - Dimmu Borgir

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                              Lost User
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                              Ministers are also proposing to double the sentence for possessing a knife or offensive weapon from two years to four

                              Partly because the media are screaming for action after a number of recent murders (mainly of teenagers) by knife-wielding gang members (usually other teenagers). In reality, the statistics for knife crime haven't changed much in 10 years, but the current UK government is a master of the "knee-jerk" reaction and, facing plummeting opinion poll figures, are desperately trying to show they are still "in touch". It will probably come to nothing, like most of their policies.

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                              • L Lost User

                                espeir wrote:

                                They're not Americans

                                Except that they live in the US, contribute to the economy, and would get the green card if they could. There would have to be 2.5 million illegal imigrants in spain to get anywhere near the percentage the US has. Go dig up some figures. Nunc est bibendum

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                                Red Stateler
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                                fat_boy wrote:

                                There would have to be 2.5 million illegal imigrants in spain to get anywhere near the percentage the US has. Go dig up some figures.

                                Actually a quick googling shows that their illegal immigrant figures are roughyl identical with the number of illegal immigrans we have from Mexico and South America.

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                                • A AndyKEnZ

                                  Is that America the continent or the USA the in-continent? Hey CIA as a source of facts, this just gets better. Thanks. :-D 'ta luego con~o Andy

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                                  Red Stateler
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                                  AndyKEnZ wrote:

                                  Is that America the continent or the USA the in-continent?

                                  Given that I clearly specified in the text of my post, I'm guessing that you're one of the illiterate Spaniards.

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                                  • R Red Stateler

                                    We don't recognize the Oxford Dictionary in Amuuuurica! RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!

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                                    JCParker
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                                    Because americans cann't speek English?

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                                    • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

                                      OMFG!!!!! Swedes are just as literate as US citizens! I'M SO PROUD TO BE JUST AS LITERATE AS YOU ARE! PLEASE MAKE ME YOUR BROTHER! Whatever.

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                                      Jason Henderson
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                                      Welcome brother! :->

                                      "Live long and prosper." - Spock

                                      Jason Henderson
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                                      • R Red Stateler

                                        America's* Literacy rate (link[^]): 99% Spain's literacy rate (link[^]): 97.9% so Spain is about twice as illiterate as the United States. Not only that, but they elected communists in order to appease Al Qaeda. What a bunch of wussies. *Note that this figure has been adjusted to only include the United States. Venezuela was not counted. -- modified at 9:10 Thursday 22nd June, 2006

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                                        espeir wrote:

                                        America's* Literacy rate (link[^]): 99% Spain's literacy rate (link[^]): 97.9% so Spain is about twice as illiterate as the United States. Not only that, but they elected communists in order to appease Al Qaeda. What a bunch of wussies.

                                        Nice but faked, when I believe in your National Institute for Literacy http://www.nifl.gov/nifl/facts/reading_facts.html[^] Another side in German: http://www.science-at-home.de/referate/analphabetismus.php[^] ------------------------------ PROST Roleplaying Game War doesn't determine who's right. War determines who's left.

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                                        • R RichardGrimmer

                                          But by the soame token, you lot should be lumped in with Canada (a bonus) and all the south american countries (not so much) - well you're all in the Americas aren't you....wonder what THAT would do to the literacy figures :) "Now I guess I'll sit back and watch people misinterpret what I just said......" Christian Graus At The Soapbox

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                                          JCParker
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                                          If grouping north and central I do not think the figuras would change much. You are right we are all Americans, so give us your oil and don't fuck with us!

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