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  • R Red Stateler

    Actually "evangelicals" as you see them represent a very small minority of Christian in this country. A Southern Baptist is not an "evangelical" as you see them. I've also known many protestants in my life (my grabdfather is a protestant preacher) and with the exception of one in college who said the pope has a stupid hat, I've never experienced anything but kindness from them. Being an American and pro-freedom, I whole-heartedly support religious people regardless of their religion (as long as they don't blow people up). That's quite different from Europe where such practice is generally frowned upon.

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    Jorgen Sigvardsson
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    espeir wrote:

    Actually "evangelicals" as you see them represent a very small minority of Christian in this country.

    I've seen and heard their leader speak. Scary man.

    espeir wrote:

    That's quite different from Europe where such practice is generally frowned upon.

    The practice of believing or supporting believing people? Swedes in general are agnostics, leaning towards "there's got to be something bigger than me". At least, that's the impression I get when talking to people. Of course, there are "hardcore" religious people too, but you only get to hear about them whenever they've killed or conspired to kill someone. In my youth, I was involved (believe it or not) in a church. 2 years of listening to "non-believers has less worth"-rhetoric, I decided that enough is enough. The best thing about not adhering to some old doctrine, is that you are free to change your mind, without the fear of divine repercussion. And you know what? Eventhough I'm godless, I'm still not interested in bestiality, or any other morally suspicious activities.

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    • L Lost User

      Where do you get this crap from? Your newspapers? TV?

      espeir wrote:

      You're proud of that?

      Thats the diference between a society that cares for the less fortuante and the US. Nunc est bibendum

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      Red Stateler
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      fat_boy wrote:

      Where do you get this crap from? Your newspapers? TV?

      I'm highly educated by a truly free society where we have the ability to shape ourselves. I am therefore able to see a spade and call it thus.

      fat_boy wrote:

      Thats the diference between a society that cares for the less fortuante and the US.

      A society is incapable of caring. It is merely a conceptual entity. By forcing people to care for other through automatic deduction, you actually separate people from their good deeds and they receive no spiritual reward. The US, on the other hand, leads the world in charitable donations because we are comprised of truly caring individuals...Not a series of tax deductions whose benefits are reduced by bureaucracy.

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      • L Lost User

        What the fuck? Nunc est bibendum

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        fat_boy wrote:

        What the f***?

        :doh: Stand rigid for the next battle Peace means reloading your guns The love for life is all hatred in disguise - Dimmu Borgir

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        • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

          espeir wrote:

          Actually "evangelicals" as you see them represent a very small minority of Christian in this country.

          I've seen and heard their leader speak. Scary man.

          espeir wrote:

          That's quite different from Europe where such practice is generally frowned upon.

          The practice of believing or supporting believing people? Swedes in general are agnostics, leaning towards "there's got to be something bigger than me". At least, that's the impression I get when talking to people. Of course, there are "hardcore" religious people too, but you only get to hear about them whenever they've killed or conspired to kill someone. In my youth, I was involved (believe it or not) in a church. 2 years of listening to "non-believers has less worth"-rhetoric, I decided that enough is enough. The best thing about not adhering to some old doctrine, is that you are free to change your mind, without the fear of divine repercussion. And you know what? Eventhough I'm godless, I'm still not interested in bestiality, or any other morally suspicious activities.

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          Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:

          I've seen and heard their leader speak. Scary man.

          You're scared of the peaceful practice of religion? Given Europe's rich history of oppressing and even killing anybody who's religion differs with their own, and given that the religion du jour in Europe is atheism, I find the fact that you find such people scary in itself...scary.

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          • R Red Stateler

            America's* Literacy rate (link[^]): 99% Spain's literacy rate (link[^]): 97.9% so Spain is about twice as illiterate as the United States. Not only that, but they elected communists in order to appease Al Qaeda. What a bunch of wussies. *Note that this figure has been adjusted to only include the United States. Venezuela was not counted. -- modified at 9:10 Thursday 22nd June, 2006

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            Is that America the continent or the USA the in-continent? Hey CIA as a source of facts, this just gets better. Thanks. :-D 'ta luego con~o Andy

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            • R Red Stateler

              fat_boy wrote:

              Oh yes, I forgot, carying a gun makes you so free.

              But not being allowed to have a gun doesn't make you free? So you're free because you have the freedoms that your government allows you to have? :confused:

              fat_boy wrote:

              Bollocks.

              It's true according to another Brit on here.

              fat_boy wrote:

              And we dont in the UK? In fact the whole of europe?

              Per his example, you don't have free speech.

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              Ryan Roberts
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              It's 6 years (minimum) for replica and real firearms (including semi-realistic air soft weapons). Can also get screwed by some air pistols as they are easily modified. Basically, it will be illegal to shave in public within a decade, while gangs of 16 year olds have ready access to illegal firearms. The poster boy for the recent knife amnesty was a batleth Klingon thingy, because everybody knows trekkies have a tendency for massive violence. Ryan

              "Michael Moore and Mel Gibson are the same person, except for a few sit-ups. Moore thought his cheesy political blooper reel was going to tell people how to vote. Mel thought that his little gay SM movie about his imaginary friend was going to help him get to heaven." - Penn Jillette

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                fat_boy wrote:

                Oh yes, I forgot, carying a gun makes you so free.

                It does not make you free, but it does give a population recourse against a tyrannical government. Totalitarian governments always disarm the population, so they dont end up like the redocats did 200 years ago.

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                Bollocks.

                Clickety[^] Ministers are also proposing to double the sentence for possessing a knife or offensive weapon from two years to four I was partly wrong, the sentence is two years, but they are trying to make it four. Stand rigid for the next battle Peace means reloading your guns The love for life is all hatred in disguise - Dimmu Borgir

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                Ministers are also proposing to double the sentence for possessing a knife or offensive weapon from two years to four

                Partly because the media are screaming for action after a number of recent murders (mainly of teenagers) by knife-wielding gang members (usually other teenagers). In reality, the statistics for knife crime haven't changed much in 10 years, but the current UK government is a master of the "knee-jerk" reaction and, facing plummeting opinion poll figures, are desperately trying to show they are still "in touch". It will probably come to nothing, like most of their policies.

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                • L Lost User

                  espeir wrote:

                  They're not Americans

                  Except that they live in the US, contribute to the economy, and would get the green card if they could. There would have to be 2.5 million illegal imigrants in spain to get anywhere near the percentage the US has. Go dig up some figures. Nunc est bibendum

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                  Red Stateler
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                  fat_boy wrote:

                  There would have to be 2.5 million illegal imigrants in spain to get anywhere near the percentage the US has. Go dig up some figures.

                  Actually a quick googling shows that their illegal immigrant figures are roughyl identical with the number of illegal immigrans we have from Mexico and South America.

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                  • A AndyKEnZ

                    Is that America the continent or the USA the in-continent? Hey CIA as a source of facts, this just gets better. Thanks. :-D 'ta luego con~o Andy

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                    Red Stateler
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                    AndyKEnZ wrote:

                    Is that America the continent or the USA the in-continent?

                    Given that I clearly specified in the text of my post, I'm guessing that you're one of the illiterate Spaniards.

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                    • R Red Stateler

                      We don't recognize the Oxford Dictionary in Amuuuurica! RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!

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                      Because americans cann't speek English?

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                      • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

                        OMFG!!!!! Swedes are just as literate as US citizens! I'M SO PROUD TO BE JUST AS LITERATE AS YOU ARE! PLEASE MAKE ME YOUR BROTHER! Whatever.

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                        Welcome brother! :->

                        "Live long and prosper." - Spock

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                        • R Red Stateler

                          America's* Literacy rate (link[^]): 99% Spain's literacy rate (link[^]): 97.9% so Spain is about twice as illiterate as the United States. Not only that, but they elected communists in order to appease Al Qaeda. What a bunch of wussies. *Note that this figure has been adjusted to only include the United States. Venezuela was not counted. -- modified at 9:10 Thursday 22nd June, 2006

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                          espeir wrote:

                          America's* Literacy rate (link[^]): 99% Spain's literacy rate (link[^]): 97.9% so Spain is about twice as illiterate as the United States. Not only that, but they elected communists in order to appease Al Qaeda. What a bunch of wussies.

                          Nice but faked, when I believe in your National Institute for Literacy http://www.nifl.gov/nifl/facts/reading_facts.html[^] Another side in German: http://www.science-at-home.de/referate/analphabetismus.php[^] ------------------------------ PROST Roleplaying Game War doesn't determine who's right. War determines who's left.

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                          • R RichardGrimmer

                            But by the soame token, you lot should be lumped in with Canada (a bonus) and all the south american countries (not so much) - well you're all in the Americas aren't you....wonder what THAT would do to the literacy figures :) "Now I guess I'll sit back and watch people misinterpret what I just said......" Christian Graus At The Soapbox

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                            JCParker
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                            If grouping north and central I do not think the figuras would change much. You are right we are all Americans, so give us your oil and don't fuck with us!

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                              espeir wrote:

                              America's* Literacy rate (link[^]): 99% Spain's literacy rate (link[^]): 97.9% so Spain is about twice as illiterate as the United States. Not only that, but they elected communists in order to appease Al Qaeda. What a bunch of wussies.

                              Nice but faked, when I believe in your National Institute for Literacy http://www.nifl.gov/nifl/facts/reading_facts.html[^] Another side in German: http://www.science-at-home.de/referate/analphabetismus.php[^] ------------------------------ PROST Roleplaying Game War doesn't determine who's right. War determines who's left.

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                              Red Stateler
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                              ihoecken wrote:

                              Nice but faked, when I believe in your National Institute for Literacy http://www.nifl.gov/nifl/facts/reading\_facts.html\[^\]

                              There's "literacy" and "functional literacy". Both of which contain two separate definitions. The link you specified outlines the latter while the link I specified outlines an equivalent baseline between the US and Spain. I didn't point any fingers at Germany. You guys are smart. And judging by how many good looking women remained within your borders, I'd say you also know how to please.

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                                This is such crap. In all these stats, like US per capita GDP, the 10 million or so illegal imigrants are not considered. Nunc est bibendum

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                                fat_boy wrote:

                                In all these stats, like US per capita GDP, the 10 million or so illegal imigrants are not considered.

                                Well they are not responsible for any illegals, I think. ------------------------------ PROST Roleplaying Game War doesn't determine who's right. War determines who's left.

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                                  espeir wrote:

                                  Spanish men also don't know how to please a woman. The average woman in the US has 2.09 children and in Spain they only have 1.28. Perhaps that chauvinism is masking something deeper.

                                  Ummm, I'm gonna go ahead and point out the subtle comedy... "Spanish men also don't know how to please a woman" followed by "Perhaps that chauvinism is masking something deeper"... Like a french boyfriend with a big wanker...

                                  "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                                  "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                                  John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                  big wanker

                                  :wtf: That's the second time I've heard an American refer to someones trouser-snake as a "wanker". Is this common? Because, as you know, "wanker" is used in a slightly different context over here. :)

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                                    ihoecken wrote:

                                    Nice but faked, when I believe in your National Institute for Literacy http://www.nifl.gov/nifl/facts/reading\_facts.html\[^\]

                                    There's "literacy" and "functional literacy". Both of which contain two separate definitions. The link you specified outlines the latter while the link I specified outlines an equivalent baseline between the US and Spain. I didn't point any fingers at Germany. You guys are smart. And judging by how many good looking women remained within your borders, I'd say you also know how to please.

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                                    espeir wrote:

                                    while the link I specified outlines an equivalent baseline between the US and Spain

                                    That's correct. You're right in this point, but I think the number of ensconced illiterate persons might be higher. That's not just a point for the US, but also for Spain. I've got no numbers for Spain, but so I think there might be less than 99% of US-Citizens literated. I was stunned about the high number not about the comparison :) ------------------------------ PROST Roleplaying Game War doesn't determine who's right. War determines who's left.

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                                    • J JCParker

                                      If grouping north and central I do not think the figuras would change much. You are right we are all Americans, so give us your oil and don't fuck with us!

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                                      :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

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                                      • R Red Stateler

                                        Actually in a separate poll (which I don't have handy), the US actually lead the world in an international poll for both quality and quantity of sex. So I guess your assumptions are wrong.

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                                        Of course, this could have been an "international" poll, like the "World" Series. Or maybe it was like the pre-War polls, where the US had the clear and committed support of other countries, but those other countries turned out to be Liechtenstein and Nepal. Or it actually demonstrated that the US is the world leader at manipulating polling data. So many possibilities...

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                                        • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

                                          Had you really wanted to convey something positive about the US, you would've said that the US is twice as literate as Spain, and you wouldn't have called them commies and wussies. What made you jump on Spain like that? Did you get turned down by a hot spanish girl? Did she call you fat, ugly, bald american bastard?

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                                          Greg Daye
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                                          Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:

                                          What made you jump on Spain like that? Did you get turned down by a hot spanish girl? Did she call you fat, ugly, bald american bastard?

                                          well, he would have jumped on France (as usual), but unfortunately, they also have 99% literacy. http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/fr.html[^]

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