America Smarter than Spain [modified]
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fat_boy wrote:
Oh yes, I forgot, carying a gun makes you so free.
It does not make you free, but it does give a population recourse against a tyrannical government. Totalitarian governments always disarm the population, so they dont end up like the redocats did 200 years ago.
fat_boy wrote:
Bollocks.
Clickety[^] Ministers are also proposing to double the sentence for possessing a knife or offensive weapon from two years to four I was partly wrong, the sentence is two years, but they are trying to make it four. Stand rigid for the next battle Peace means reloading your guns The love for life is all hatred in disguise - Dimmu Borgir
If we wanted to change our government we would do it in a calmer fashion than running around shooting people.
Score: 1.0 (1 vote). wrote:
I was partly wrong, the sentence is two years, but they are trying to make it four.
You were completely wrong. You stated a kid had been sent to jail for 4 years for carrying a knife. Nunc est bibendum
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Well, I suppose some people have standards so low they are easially satisfied. Nunc est bibendum
fat_boy wrote:
Well, I suppose some people have standards so low they are easially satisfied.
That's where the Spanish come in. Btw, you're acting no better that espeir. But I guess it's ok to be hypocritical here as long as it's against the US. And yes I voted this down and his up to balance it out. Jeremy Falcon
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fat_boy wrote:
Where do you get this crap from? Your newspapers? TV?
I'm highly educated by a truly free society where we have the ability to shape ourselves. I am therefore able to see a spade and call it thus.
fat_boy wrote:
Thats the diference between a society that cares for the less fortuante and the US.
A society is incapable of caring. It is merely a conceptual entity. By forcing people to care for other through automatic deduction, you actually separate people from their good deeds and they receive no spiritual reward. The US, on the other hand, leads the world in charitable donations because we are comprised of truly caring individuals...Not a series of tax deductions whose benefits are reduced by bureaucracy.
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Spain is not Europe, and Europe is not Spain you twit.
Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:
Spain is not Europe, and Europe is not Spain you twit.
It is if we say it is! ;P Kidding. Jeremy Falcon
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Ha ha. Yeah so free. You cant drink alcohol in parks and on beaches. You cant smoke dope legally. You cant buy drink in a mac donalds. Your women cant go topless on any beach they want. You have 11 holidays a year, as opposed to 22 here, plus a couple of weeks if your wife gives birth. We have free health care, and it is good. We can drive at 85 mph in France, unlimited in a lot of germany. Free? You dont know the meaning of free. Nunc est bibendum
Oh no! I can't buy a McJoint! I feel sooo repressed now. :laugh: Jeremy Falcon
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fat_boy wrote:
Well, I suppose some people have standards so low they are easially satisfied.
That's where the Spanish come in. Btw, you're acting no better that espeir. But I guess it's ok to be hypocritical here as long as it's against the US. And yes I voted this down and his up to balance it out. Jeremy Falcon
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fat_boy wrote:
We have free health care, and it is good.
Actually, anyone who shows up at an emergency room gets free treatment, including illegal aliens. Most people are covered with private insurance paid by employers, the rest are [also] riding on someone elses dime. The other stuff is irrelevent bullshit. BW
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
-- Steven Wright-- modified at 11:43 Thursday 22nd June, 2006
brianwelsch wrote:
The other stuff is irrelevent bullsh*t.
It usually is in the SB. But whatever. I'd rather the right to defend myself over the ability to buy booze at McDonalds. And, as would already said, if the public really wanted that it would happen. Jeremy Falcon
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Oh no! I can't buy a McJoint! I feel sooo repressed now. :laugh: Jeremy Falcon
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espeir wrote:
not being allowed to have a gun doesn't make you free
What the fuck have guns got to do with freedom. Guns are about self defence and living in a dangerous environment. Fortunately in Europe, we are civilised enough not to need to carry guns.
espeir wrote:
So you're free because you have the freedoms that your government allows you to have
Dont forget who invented democracy, and gave it to you. We happen to have made guns virtually illegal because we dont want 1.5 thousand deaths a year dus to guns, like you have.
espeir wrote:
It's true according to another Brit on here.
Post the link or rertract. Nunc est bibendum
fat_boy wrote:
What the f*** have guns got to do with freedom. Guns are about self defence and living in a dangerous environment.
If you can't put two and two together than you need serious help. But what do you care right? You can buy booze at McDonalds.
fat_boy wrote:
Fortunately in Europe, we are civilised enough not to need to carry guns.
Bullshit as usual. I suppose Europe never has any crime either. What's it like to be perfect?
fat_boy wrote:
Dont forget who invented democracy, and gave it to you.
You didn't give us shit. We left you and France help us kick your ass so that we could give it to ourselves.
fat_boy wrote:
Post the link or rertract.
He's right. Stop being lazy and search it yourself or retract your statement. Jeremy Falcon
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ha ha, image a mac do in amsterdam. hash browns take on a new meaning... Nunc est bibendum
fat_boy wrote:
hash browns take on a new meaning...
:laugh: Jeremy Falcon
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No, in fact it is true that the US is strangely restrictive in many ways, despite its pretenstions of freedom. Particularly regarding alcohol. Nunc est bibendum
Alcohol zoning is done on a local level. New Orleans (as I'm sure Mr. Falcon will point out) allows alcohol consumption in the streets. So does Savannah, Georgia and various other local municipalities. However, most people don't want a bunch of drunks and drug-addicts stumbling everywhere, so they choose (by enacting their freedoms) to restrict its consumption to certain areas.
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Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:
What made you jump on Spain like that? Did you get turned down by a hot spanish girl? Did she call you fat, ugly, bald american bastard?
well, he would have jumped on France (as usual), but unfortunately, they also have 99% literacy. http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/fr.html[^]
Since you're both so painfully retarded, I guess I have to point out the obvious that AndyKEnZ is from Spain. :rolleyes:
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I'd sooner live in a more open society like Afghanistan.
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If we wanted to change our government we would do it in a calmer fashion than running around shooting people.
Score: 1.0 (1 vote). wrote:
I was partly wrong, the sentence is two years, but they are trying to make it four.
You were completely wrong. You stated a kid had been sent to jail for 4 years for carrying a knife. Nunc est bibendum
fat_boy wrote:
You stated a kid had been sent to jail for 4 years for carrying a knife.
Really? I dont remember that. I remember saying they could put anyone in jail for carrying a knife. Stand rigid for the next battle Peace means reloading your guns The love for life is all hatred in disguise - Dimmu Borgir
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brianwelsch wrote:
The other stuff is irrelevent bullsh*t.
It usually is in the SB. But whatever. I'd rather the right to defend myself over the ability to buy booze at McDonalds. And, as would already said, if the public really wanted that it would happen. Jeremy Falcon
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
It usually is in the SB
:-D Good point. Pretty much the last place I want to drink a beer is in McDs, and I'm sure they'd offer beer if there was demand for it. BW
If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the precipitate.
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Alcohol zoning is done on a local level. New Orleans (as I'm sure Mr. Falcon will point out) allows alcohol consumption in the streets. So does Savannah, Georgia and various other local municipalities. However, most people don't want a bunch of drunks and drug-addicts stumbling everywhere, so they choose (by enacting their freedoms) to restrict its consumption to certain areas.
espeir wrote:
New Orleans (as I'm sure Mr. Falcon will point out) allows alcohol consumption in the streets.
It depends on the street around here. For instance you could get plastered on Bourbon St. and it's perfectly legal if you're over 21. You can't piss on the side of the street though. :laugh: Jeremy Falcon
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No, in fact it is true that the US is strangely restrictive in many ways, despite its pretenstions of freedom. Particularly regarding alcohol. Nunc est bibendum
fat_boy wrote:
No, in fact it is true that the US is strangely restrictive in many ways
I agree with this for the most part. My point is that I don't much care about the petty stuff ya know. Start with what's important (to me) and we'll take it from there. Jeremy Falcon
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brianwelsch wrote:
The other stuff is irrelevent bullsh*t.
It usually is in the SB. But whatever. I'd rather the right to defend myself over the ability to buy booze at McDonalds. And, as would already said, if the public really wanted that it would happen. Jeremy Falcon
You could buy booze at McDonald's if they decided to sell it and got some liquor licenses. That's like walking into a Foot Locker and demanding a shot of whiskey because it's your right.
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espeir wrote:
New Orleans (as I'm sure Mr. Falcon will point out) allows alcohol consumption in the streets.
It depends on the street around here. For instance you could get plastered on Bourbon St. and it's perfectly legal if you're over 21. You can't piss on the side of the street though. :laugh: Jeremy Falcon
I thought it was pretty much the entire French Quarter. The last time I was there, my wife and I got drunk and carried our drinks into a police station. You could have drinking everywhere, but you choose not to. That's probably wise.
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
big wanker
:wtf: That's the second time I've heard an American refer to someones trouser-snake as a "wanker". Is this common? Because, as you know, "wanker" is used in a slightly different context over here. :)
Hey, at least he's trying to learn. :)
Ðavid Wulff Die Freiheit spielt auf allen Geigen (video)
"If some individuals commit an act that is contrary to what their religion tells them to do, then the religion isn't violent... the individuals are." - espeir.