America Smarter than Spain [modified]
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espeir wrote:
not being allowed to have a gun doesn't make you free
What the fuck have guns got to do with freedom. Guns are about self defence and living in a dangerous environment. Fortunately in Europe, we are civilised enough not to need to carry guns.
espeir wrote:
So you're free because you have the freedoms that your government allows you to have
Dont forget who invented democracy, and gave it to you. We happen to have made guns virtually illegal because we dont want 1.5 thousand deaths a year dus to guns, like you have.
espeir wrote:
It's true according to another Brit on here.
Post the link or rertract. Nunc est bibendum
fat_boy wrote:
What the f*** have guns got to do with freedom. Guns are about self defence and living in a dangerous environment.
If you can't put two and two together than you need serious help. But what do you care right? You can buy booze at McDonalds.
fat_boy wrote:
Fortunately in Europe, we are civilised enough not to need to carry guns.
Bullshit as usual. I suppose Europe never has any crime either. What's it like to be perfect?
fat_boy wrote:
Dont forget who invented democracy, and gave it to you.
You didn't give us shit. We left you and France help us kick your ass so that we could give it to ourselves.
fat_boy wrote:
Post the link or rertract.
He's right. Stop being lazy and search it yourself or retract your statement. Jeremy Falcon
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ha ha, image a mac do in amsterdam. hash browns take on a new meaning... Nunc est bibendum
fat_boy wrote:
hash browns take on a new meaning...
:laugh: Jeremy Falcon
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No, in fact it is true that the US is strangely restrictive in many ways, despite its pretenstions of freedom. Particularly regarding alcohol. Nunc est bibendum
Alcohol zoning is done on a local level. New Orleans (as I'm sure Mr. Falcon will point out) allows alcohol consumption in the streets. So does Savannah, Georgia and various other local municipalities. However, most people don't want a bunch of drunks and drug-addicts stumbling everywhere, so they choose (by enacting their freedoms) to restrict its consumption to certain areas.
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Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:
What made you jump on Spain like that? Did you get turned down by a hot spanish girl? Did she call you fat, ugly, bald american bastard?
well, he would have jumped on France (as usual), but unfortunately, they also have 99% literacy. http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/fr.html[^]
Since you're both so painfully retarded, I guess I have to point out the obvious that AndyKEnZ is from Spain. :rolleyes:
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I'd sooner live in a more open society like Afghanistan.
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If we wanted to change our government we would do it in a calmer fashion than running around shooting people.
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I was partly wrong, the sentence is two years, but they are trying to make it four.
You were completely wrong. You stated a kid had been sent to jail for 4 years for carrying a knife. Nunc est bibendum
fat_boy wrote:
You stated a kid had been sent to jail for 4 years for carrying a knife.
Really? I dont remember that. I remember saying they could put anyone in jail for carrying a knife. Stand rigid for the next battle Peace means reloading your guns The love for life is all hatred in disguise - Dimmu Borgir
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brianwelsch wrote:
The other stuff is irrelevent bullsh*t.
It usually is in the SB. But whatever. I'd rather the right to defend myself over the ability to buy booze at McDonalds. And, as would already said, if the public really wanted that it would happen. Jeremy Falcon
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
It usually is in the SB
:-D Good point. Pretty much the last place I want to drink a beer is in McDs, and I'm sure they'd offer beer if there was demand for it. BW
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Alcohol zoning is done on a local level. New Orleans (as I'm sure Mr. Falcon will point out) allows alcohol consumption in the streets. So does Savannah, Georgia and various other local municipalities. However, most people don't want a bunch of drunks and drug-addicts stumbling everywhere, so they choose (by enacting their freedoms) to restrict its consumption to certain areas.
espeir wrote:
New Orleans (as I'm sure Mr. Falcon will point out) allows alcohol consumption in the streets.
It depends on the street around here. For instance you could get plastered on Bourbon St. and it's perfectly legal if you're over 21. You can't piss on the side of the street though. :laugh: Jeremy Falcon
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No, in fact it is true that the US is strangely restrictive in many ways, despite its pretenstions of freedom. Particularly regarding alcohol. Nunc est bibendum
fat_boy wrote:
No, in fact it is true that the US is strangely restrictive in many ways
I agree with this for the most part. My point is that I don't much care about the petty stuff ya know. Start with what's important (to me) and we'll take it from there. Jeremy Falcon
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brianwelsch wrote:
The other stuff is irrelevent bullsh*t.
It usually is in the SB. But whatever. I'd rather the right to defend myself over the ability to buy booze at McDonalds. And, as would already said, if the public really wanted that it would happen. Jeremy Falcon
You could buy booze at McDonald's if they decided to sell it and got some liquor licenses. That's like walking into a Foot Locker and demanding a shot of whiskey because it's your right.
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espeir wrote:
New Orleans (as I'm sure Mr. Falcon will point out) allows alcohol consumption in the streets.
It depends on the street around here. For instance you could get plastered on Bourbon St. and it's perfectly legal if you're over 21. You can't piss on the side of the street though. :laugh: Jeremy Falcon
I thought it was pretty much the entire French Quarter. The last time I was there, my wife and I got drunk and carried our drinks into a police station. You could have drinking everywhere, but you choose not to. That's probably wise.
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:
big wanker
:wtf: That's the second time I've heard an American refer to someones trouser-snake as a "wanker". Is this common? Because, as you know, "wanker" is used in a slightly different context over here. :)
Hey, at least he's trying to learn. :)
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fat_boy wrote:
Free? You dont know the meaning of free.
You must be an arrogant asshole to tell that to an American, being from the UK yourself. In the UK you have "knife amnesites", and will put anyone in jail for 4 years for having a pocket knife. In the UK your police arrest young children of making "racist" remarks. The police in the UK can do pretty much whatever they like if they label someone a "terrorist". Wheras Americans have the right to free speech, the right to be armed (which i am), the right against unreasonable searches and confiscations by the police (but the police do violate this one sometimes). Freedom means more than petty little things like speed limits and holidays. Stand rigid for the next battle Peace means reloading your guns The love for life is all hatred in disguise - Dimmu Borgir
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In the UK you have "knife amnesites"
We have gun amnesties too, your point being?
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put anyone in jail for 4 years for having a pocket knife
Simply not true. The most that is likely to happen is the knife being confiscated. Four years is the absolute maximum that a judge could pass down when there are serious concerns about the individual concerned (i.e. they were caught fighting outside a school or brandishing it.)
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police arrest young children of making "racist" remarks
If you knew the background of that single incident you would know that there was considerably more to it than the remarks exchanged.
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The police in the UK can do pretty much whatever they like if they label someone a "terrorist".
The first part requires significant proof however. It might not be shown in a public court, but it still needs to be shown before we can detain anyone. Most times the individuals are simply returned to their country of origin so long as we are sure they will come to no physical harm by doing so. Maybe we should just build camps in other countries and send them all there?
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Americans have the right to free speech
Ditto. It wasn't a concept you created either.
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the right to be armed
Yeah, it really sucks[^] to live in Britain.
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which i am
Thank God for the Atlantic.
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the right against unreasonable searches and confiscations by the police
We share that right, protected in law.
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Freedom means more than petty little things like speed limits and holidays
Personal freedom is significant in its own right.
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fat_boy wrote:
Oh yes, I forgot, carying a gun makes you so free.
It does not make you free, but it does give a population recourse against a tyrannical government. Totalitarian governments always disarm the population, so they dont end up like the redocats did 200 years ago.
fat_boy wrote:
Bollocks.
Clickety[^] Ministers are also proposing to double the sentence for possessing a knife or offensive weapon from two years to four I was partly wrong, the sentence is two years, but they are trying to make it four. Stand rigid for the next battle Peace means reloading your guns The love for life is all hatred in disguise - Dimmu Borgir
You do know that Scotland doesn't share all the same laws as England, Wales and Northen Ireland, right?
Ðavid Wulff Die Freiheit spielt auf allen Geigen (video)
"If some individuals commit an act that is contrary to what their religion tells them to do, then the religion isn't violent... the individuals are." - espeir. -
Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:
I've seen and heard their leader speak. Scary man.
You're scared of the peaceful practice of religion? Given Europe's rich history of oppressing and even killing anybody who's religion differs with their own, and given that the religion du jour in Europe is atheism, I find the fact that you find such people scary in itself...scary.
It's not the religion itself I find scary, but the political ambition of these people. They're just as scary as left and right extremes. If you find me scary for thinking that, then you're one heck of a scaredy cat. Do you fear waking up too?
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I'd sooner live in a more open society like Afghanistan.
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Jörgen Sigvardsson wrote:
you twit.
I think i will go kill myself now. :((:((:(( Stand rigid for the next battle Peace means reloading your guns The love for life is all hatred in disguise - Dimmu Borgir
