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  • R Red Stateler

    code-frog wrote:

    I understand what you are saying but just because you are saying it does not make you right.

    Maybe you can explain it to me, because most everything I know has been told to me. How do I know that George Washington ever existed? I don't feel compelled to dig up his grave and perform DNA analysis to prove it.

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    code frog 0
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    Not sure I follow you. What do you want me to explain?


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    • N Nish Nishant

      code-frog wrote:

      In fact you just created division over someone trying to show kindness and support.

      Hey Rex, This is part of what that guy said :- You need to find out what it means to accept Jesus as your Saviour and Lord. There is no hope otherwise. That last sentence about non-Jesusites having no hope was totally uncalled for! I thought it particularly selfish that he was trying to take advantage of someone's misery to preach his religious beliefs. Regards, Nish


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      David Stone
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      Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

      I thought it particularly selfish that he was trying to take advantage of someone's misery to preach his religious beliefs.

      I don't think it was selfish of him at all. When a Christian tells someone else of their own beliefs, it's usually out of a desire to help the other person. Christianity isn't some pyramid scheme where you get more points in heaven for every person you sign up... :rolleyes:

      Once you wanted revolution
      Now you're the institution
      How's it feel to be the man?

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        You do realize that you are attacking people for what they believe and not respecting them for it at all? If someone had replied and said, "Shalom" (SP?) would you have attacked them? I doubt it.


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        leckey 0
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        Did you mean Shalom?

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        • C code frog 0

          No, I agree. These are good points. Even the SB part is right. I was just shadowing all of your posts to kind of say, "Who cares. It's all good." So now I'll say, "Who cares? It's all good.":-D:rose:


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          Jeremy Falcon
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          Yeah, I tend to go from zero to 5 million in 2 seconds on emotional posts like this I can easily identify with. But, I kinda lost focus for a bit, and I shouldn't steal the thread. Jeremy Falcon

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          • N Nish Nishant

            code-frog wrote:

            In fact you just created division over someone trying to show kindness and support.

            Hey Rex, This is part of what that guy said :- You need to find out what it means to accept Jesus as your Saviour and Lord. There is no hope otherwise. That last sentence about non-Jesusites having no hope was totally uncalled for! I thought it particularly selfish that he was trying to take advantage of someone's misery to preach his religious beliefs. Regards, Nish


            Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
            Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New)

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            code frog 0
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            You know I didn't even catch that (you might say my background desensitized me to it). That part I would agree with. It's not respectful. You have me there Nish. :-D


            "You have an arrow in your butt!" - Fiona:cool:
            Welcome to CP in your language. Post the unicode version in My CP Blog [ ^ ] now.

            People who don't understand how awesome Firefox is have never used CPhog[^]CPhog. The act of using CPhog (Firefox)[^] alone doesn't make Firefox cool. It opens your eyes to the possibilities and then you start looking for other things like CPhog (Firefox)[^] and your eyes are suddenly open to all sorts of useful things all through Firefox. - (Self Quote)

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            • J Jeremy Falcon

              Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

              There are billions out there who don't believe in Jesus and I refuse to believe that there's no hope for them.

              There is, they can all hope to burn in hell! I'm joking Nish. Trying to show how silly religion can be. Jeremy Falcon

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              Josh Smith
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              Do you know if they have nachos in Hell? I hope so, it would suck to go sans nacho for the rest of eternity. I mean, Satan must have some kickin' hot salsa, right? He probably has salsa that's hotter than Hell!! :-D

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              • J Jeremy Falcon

                Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                There are billions out there who don't believe in Jesus and I refuse to believe that there's no hope for them.

                There is, they can all hope to burn in hell! I'm joking Nish. Trying to show how silly religion can be. Jeremy Falcon

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                Nish Nishant
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                Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                There is, they can all hope to burn in hell!

                :laugh: Regards, Nish


                Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New)

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                • D David Stone

                  And worse yet, what if they're all militant about their religion? ;P

                  Once you wanted revolution
                  Now you're the institution
                  How's it feel to be the man?

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                  Nish Nishant
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                  David Stone wrote:

                  And worse yet, what if they're all militant about their religion?

                  You mean like that guy in the Soapbox the other day who said Jesus will beat the crap out of you if you don't believe in him? ;P Then he'll have to resort to his atheist and agnostic friends :) Regards, Nish


                  Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                  Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New)

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                  • J Josh Smith

                    Do you know if they have nachos in Hell? I hope so, it would suck to go sans nacho for the rest of eternity. I mean, Satan must have some kickin' hot salsa, right? He probably has salsa that's hotter than Hell!! :-D

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                    Jeremy Falcon
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                    Josh Smith wrote:

                    Do you know if they have nachos in Hell?

                    If they don't, then I don't wanna go. :laugh: Jeremy Falcon

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                    • L leckey 0

                      Did you mean Shalom?

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                      code frog 0
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                      #66

                      Yes, I did. :-O


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                      Welcome to CP in your language. Post the unicode version in My CP Blog [ ^ ] now.

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                      • N Nish Nishant

                        David Stone wrote:

                        And worse yet, what if they're all militant about their religion?

                        You mean like that guy in the Soapbox the other day who said Jesus will beat the crap out of you if you don't believe in him? ;P Then he'll have to resort to his atheist and agnostic friends :) Regards, Nish


                        Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                        Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New)

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                        Josh Smith
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                        Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                        You mean like that guy in the Soapbox the other day who said Jesus will beat the crap out of you if you don't believe in him?

                        Are you serious?! :wtf:

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                        • R Red Stateler

                          Jeremy Falcon wrote:

                          I prefer truth over believing what I've been told because I told so by my parents who had even a lesser understanding of life than future generations will.

                          True or False: Nero was emperor of Rome.

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                          Jeremy Falcon
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                          espeir wrote:

                          Nero was emperor of Rome.

                          I know Nero had something to do with Roman times, but my history is fuzzy. What's the point? Jeremy Falcon

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                          • C code frog 0

                            Go outside, pick up the nicest smoothest stone you can find. Throw it as hard as you can and as far as you can. Once it's in the air freak out, try to keep it in the air longer, run and try to catch it, do anything possible to keep it in the air. Nothing you can do is going to prevent that stone from hitting the ground. It's going to. When it does that's it. Nothing you did will have changed that. So I offer you this.

                            • Appreciate the stone but don't covet it.
                            • When you throw the stone, aim carefully. You only get one toss so make sure it's path is free of obstructions.
                            • Admire how well the stone flies, how while it's in the air nothing impedes it's flight.
                            • When it comes to the ground clear your mind. It's over.
                            • Go back inside and live your life the way the stone lived it's flight.

                            Life is not about the destination it's about the journey. Some will tell you that you need God/Religion and while I think that's excellent advice I also think you need to realize that those things you hold on to the tightest will slip through your fingers and because you clutched them so tightly you'll never learn to appreciate them for what they are or were. Consider this. Right now you are not remembering the way your grandfather lived, you are remembering how he died. How do you think he would feel about that? He lived an entire life in front of you and all you can think about is how he died? I think instead he'd want you to cherish the best things about him and to keep him alive in your memories. Death is a brutal fact of life and you may need to seek grief counselling and there's no shame in that it can be very helpful. But I really think you just need lighten your step a bit carry your best memories of him wherever you go and celebrate the fact that for him life is no longer about suffering in physical pain and mental dimentia. Remember the great man he was not the shell of a man he became.:rose:


                            "You have an arrow in your butt!" - Fiona:cool:
                            Welcome to CP in your language. Post the unicode version in My CP Blog [ ^ ] now.

                            People who don't understand how awesome Firefox is have never used

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                            Bassam Abdul Baki
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                            The man is hurting and you write a long paragrapgh, all he's going to get out of this is to go get stoned. :laugh:


                            "Religion is assurance in numbers." - Bassam Abdul-Baki Web - Blog - RSS - Math

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                            • D David Stone

                              Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                              I thought it particularly selfish that he was trying to take advantage of someone's misery to preach his religious beliefs.

                              I don't think it was selfish of him at all. When a Christian tells someone else of their own beliefs, it's usually out of a desire to help the other person. Christianity isn't some pyramid scheme where you get more points in heaven for every person you sign up... :rolleyes:

                              Once you wanted revolution
                              Now you're the institution
                              How's it feel to be the man?

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                              Nish Nishant
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                              David Stone wrote:

                              When a Christian tells someone else of their own beliefs, it's usually out of a desire to help the other person.

                              I don't think so - I usually see it as an attempt to convert someone :-)

                              David Stone wrote:

                              Christianity isn't some pyramid scheme where you get more points in heaven for every person you sign up...

                              Most Christians I've known in my life (with some really nice exceptions of course) seemed to behave like there was this pyramid-model. Every chance they got to talk about Jesus they would, even if they could clearly see that the listener wasn't in the least interested. Regards, Nish


                              Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                              Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New)

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                              • J Jeremy Falcon

                                Yeah, I tend to go from zero to 5 million in 2 seconds on emotional posts like this I can easily identify with. But, I kinda lost focus for a bit, and I shouldn't steal the thread. Jeremy Falcon

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                                code frog 0
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                                Well I missed the part that Nish pointed out to me. That would have bothered me to if I wasn't in parallel with the comments (except that part).


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                                Welcome to CP in your language. Post the unicode version in My CP Blog [ ^ ] now.

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                                • D Dan Neely

                                  The book was much better. Far less ambiguity at the end.

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                                  Jeremy Falcon
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                                  dan neely wrote:

                                  The book was much better.

                                  That's the way it always goes. Jeremy Falcon

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                                  • B Bassam Abdul Baki

                                    The man is hurting and you write a long paragrapgh, all he's going to get out of this is to go get stoned. :laugh:


                                    "Religion is assurance in numbers." - Bassam Abdul-Baki Web - Blog - RSS - Math

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                                    code frog 0
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                                    Now that's funny. Perhaps your comments will make him laugh.:-D


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                                    People who don't understand how awesome Firefox is have never used CPhog[^]CPhog. The act of using CPhog (Firefox)[^] alone doesn't make Firefox cool. It opens your eyes to the possibilities and then you start looking for other things like CPhog (Firefox)[^] and your eyes are suddenly open to all sorts of useful things all through Firefox. - (Self Quote)

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                                    • B Bassam Abdul Baki

                                      If you suffered once, why go through it again? Unless you're into S&M? :-D


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                                      Jeremy Falcon
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                                      Bassam Abdul-Baki wrote:

                                      why go through it again?

                                      It's amazing what one can do when they are sufficiently bored enough. :laugh: Jeremy Falcon

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                                      • C code frog 0

                                        You know I didn't even catch that (you might say my background desensitized me to it). That part I would agree with. It's not respectful. You have me there Nish. :-D


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                                        Welcome to CP in your language. Post the unicode version in My CP Blog [ ^ ] now.

                                        People who don't understand how awesome Firefox is have never used CPhog[^]CPhog. The act of using CPhog (Firefox)[^] alone doesn't make Firefox cool. It opens your eyes to the possibilities and then you start looking for other things like CPhog (Firefox)[^] and your eyes are suddenly open to all sorts of useful things all through Firefox. - (Self Quote)

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                                        Nish Nishant
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                                        code-frog wrote:

                                        You know I didn't even catch that (you might say my background desensitized me to it).

                                        I understand. I didn't pick it in the first read too - had to read it again after seeing Jeremy's reactions.

                                        code-frog wrote:

                                        That part I would agree with. It's not respectful.

                                        That's what I thought. It just wasn't respectful. Regards, Nish


                                        Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                                        Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New)

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                                        • C code frog 0

                                          Go outside, pick up the nicest smoothest stone you can find. Throw it as hard as you can and as far as you can. Once it's in the air freak out, try to keep it in the air longer, run and try to catch it, do anything possible to keep it in the air. Nothing you can do is going to prevent that stone from hitting the ground. It's going to. When it does that's it. Nothing you did will have changed that. So I offer you this.

                                          • Appreciate the stone but don't covet it.
                                          • When you throw the stone, aim carefully. You only get one toss so make sure it's path is free of obstructions.
                                          • Admire how well the stone flies, how while it's in the air nothing impedes it's flight.
                                          • When it comes to the ground clear your mind. It's over.
                                          • Go back inside and live your life the way the stone lived it's flight.

                                          Life is not about the destination it's about the journey. Some will tell you that you need God/Religion and while I think that's excellent advice I also think you need to realize that those things you hold on to the tightest will slip through your fingers and because you clutched them so tightly you'll never learn to appreciate them for what they are or were. Consider this. Right now you are not remembering the way your grandfather lived, you are remembering how he died. How do you think he would feel about that? He lived an entire life in front of you and all you can think about is how he died? I think instead he'd want you to cherish the best things about him and to keep him alive in your memories. Death is a brutal fact of life and you may need to seek grief counselling and there's no shame in that it can be very helpful. But I really think you just need lighten your step a bit carry your best memories of him wherever you go and celebrate the fact that for him life is no longer about suffering in physical pain and mental dimentia. Remember the great man he was not the shell of a man he became.:rose:


                                          "You have an arrow in your butt!" - Fiona:cool:
                                          Welcome to CP in your language. Post the unicode version in My CP Blog [ ^ ] now.

                                          People who don't understand how awesome Firefox is have never used

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                                          Josh Smith
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                                          Beautifully put. However, there is one logical flaw in your advice.

                                          code-frog wrote:

                                          Admire how well the stone flies, how while it's in the air nothing impedes it's flight.

                                          If nothing were to impede upon the stone's flight, then, well, it would never stop flying. :) Josh

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