How do you cope?
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code-frog wrote:
You don't either.
I did have a point. Perhaps my grammar didn't, but that wasn't the point.
code-frog wrote:
In fact you just created division over someone trying to show kindness and support.
To each his own. I prefer truth over believing what I've been told because I told so by my parents who had even a lesser understanding of life than future generations will. And I don't think finding the truth is ever a bad thing. And believe me, this drives my mother crazy. :laugh: Jeremy Falcon
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
I prefer truth over believing what I've been told because I told so by my parents who had even a lesser understanding of life than future generations will.
True or False: Nero was emperor of Rome.
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Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:
You need to see the movie "Contact" again?
Um... no. I suffered through it twice already. :-D Jeremy Falcon
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You do realize that you are attacking people for what they believe and not respecting them for it at all? If someone had replied and said, "Shalom" (SP?) would you have attacked them? I doubt it.
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code-frog wrote:
You do realize that you are attacking people for what they believe and not respecting them for it at all?
I'm not attacking people; I'm attacking religion. The problem with some people is they take everything personally.
code-frog wrote:
"Shiloam" (SP?) would you have attacked them? I doubt it.
Because it wouldn't mean the same thing as what the poster said. If someone said "God bless" I wouldn't have done anything either. Anyway, this is really turning into a SB discussion, so if we continue, at least let it be in there. Jeremy Falcon
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code-frog wrote:
"Shiloam" (SP?)
Shalom. I would have to say, we shouldn't devolve this thread into a religion vs. secular flamefest, simply because someone said something another didn't like.
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Yeah you're right. It's really bad timing on my part. So, I'll lay low on the religion topic for a few days. Jeremy Falcon
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code-frog wrote:
You don't either.
I did have a point. Perhaps my grammar didn't, but that wasn't the point.
code-frog wrote:
In fact you just created division over someone trying to show kindness and support.
To each his own. I prefer truth over believing what I've been told because I told so by my parents who had even a lesser understanding of life than future generations will. And I don't think finding the truth is ever a bad thing. And believe me, this drives my mother crazy. :laugh: Jeremy Falcon
I understand what you are saying but just because you are saying it does not make you right. It doesn't make you wrong either. It takes as much faith for you to feel the way you do as it does for others to feel the way they do. Notice I don't attack you for how you feel, accuse you of being feeble minded or of inventing something to make you feel better. I don't call your stance out as ignorant or anything else. I'm totally cool with what you believe (or not) and it doesn't affect me. But then Hindus, Muslims, Catholics, Mormons and Homosexuals don't bug me either. I respect everyone and in time if their opinions become mine it's cool if my opinions become theirs it's cool.
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brianwelsch wrote:
That's why it's called faith.
Faith is an excuse for ignorance. Jeremy Falcon
Most of us are very opinionated on religion, one way or another, but perhaps its best to let it go, leave what was said as it is. The poster asked for peace and comfort, and we turn around by starting a flamewar about whether God exists? Ugh. Let's let this go for now.
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I know I'm going to get flamed for this but it's important. You need to find out what it means to accept Jesus as your Saviour and Lord. There is no hope otherwise. Find a Christian friend and ask him what this means and where to start. Let me know if I can help.
Steve Holle wrote:
You need to find out what it means to accept Jesus as your Saviour and Lord. There is no hope otherwise. Find a Christian friend and ask him what this means and where to start.
What if he has only Muslim or Hindu friends? :rolleyes: Regards, Nish
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code-frog wrote:
You do realize that you are attacking people for what they believe and not respecting them for it at all?
I'm not attacking people; I'm attacking religion. The problem with some people is they take everything personally.
code-frog wrote:
"Shiloam" (SP?) would you have attacked them? I doubt it.
Because it wouldn't mean the same thing as what the poster said. If someone said "God bless" I wouldn't have done anything either. Anyway, this is really turning into a SB discussion, so if we continue, at least let it be in there. Jeremy Falcon
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
I'm not attacking people; I'm attacking religion.
You were clearly attacking both.
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
The problem with some people is they take everything personally.
Religion is composed of closely held personal beliefs. When you belittle somebody's basic belief system, it's hurtful. It's like saying, "Dude, I totally banged your wife last night."
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I know I'm going to get flamed for this but it's important. You need to find out what it means to accept Jesus as your Saviour and Lord. There is no hope otherwise. Find a Christian friend and ask him what this means and where to start. Let me know if I can help.
Steve Holle wrote:
You need to find out what it means to accept Jesus as your Saviour and Lord. There is no hope otherwise.
Totally disagree with that! There are billions out there who don't believe in Jesus and I refuse to believe that there's no hope for them. Regards, Nish
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Steve Holle wrote:
You need to find out what it means to accept Jesus as your Saviour and Lord. There is no hope otherwise. Find a Christian friend and ask him what this means and where to start.
What if he has only Muslim or Hindu friends? :rolleyes: Regards, Nish
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Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New)And worse yet, what if they're all militant about their religion? ;P
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code-frog wrote:
"Shiloam" (SP?)
Shalom. I would have to say, we shouldn't devolve this thread into a religion vs. secular flamefest, simply because someone said something another didn't like.
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I agree. Jeremy is constantly challenging how I think and me him both on and off the boards. We pretty much rub at one another constantly. I think we both learn stuff as we go.
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You said "I don't think there is a way to cope with it." then proceeded to say how balling up your emotions is the best way to help ignore tragedy rather than confront it. How is that comforting?
espeir wrote:
then proceeded to say how balling up your emotions is the best way to help ignore tragedy rather than confront it.
Never once did I say that. Maybe you should stop assuming.
espeir wrote:
How is that comforting?
Read the whole post if it's not too much to ask. Jeremy Falcon
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You said "I don't think there is a way to cope with it." then proceeded to say how balling up your emotions is the best way to help ignore tragedy rather than confront it. How is that comforting?
Actually, I tend to cope with stuff that way too. You'll be amazed how by supressing one's emotions, one can get eliminate that bad feeling. Just because it doesn't work for some, doesn't mean it doesn't work for all. :)
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code-frog wrote:
You do realize that you are attacking people for what they believe and not respecting them for it at all?
I'm not attacking people; I'm attacking religion. The problem with some people is they take everything personally.
code-frog wrote:
"Shiloam" (SP?) would you have attacked them? I doubt it.
Because it wouldn't mean the same thing as what the poster said. If someone said "God bless" I wouldn't have done anything either. Anyway, this is really turning into a SB discussion, so if we continue, at least let it be in there. Jeremy Falcon
No, I agree. These are good points. Even the SB part is right. I was just shadowing all of your posts to kind of say, "Who cares. It's all good." So now I'll say, "Who cares? It's all good.":-D:rose:
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You don't either. In fact you just created division over someone trying to show kindness and support.:rose:
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code-frog wrote:
In fact you just created division over someone trying to show kindness and support.
Hey Rex, This is part of what that guy said :- You need to find out what it means to accept Jesus as your Saviour and Lord. There is no hope otherwise. That last sentence about non-Jesusites having no hope was totally uncalled for! I thought it particularly selfish that he was trying to take advantage of someone's misery to preach his religious beliefs. Regards, Nish
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I understand what you are saying but just because you are saying it does not make you right. It doesn't make you wrong either. It takes as much faith for you to feel the way you do as it does for others to feel the way they do. Notice I don't attack you for how you feel, accuse you of being feeble minded or of inventing something to make you feel better. I don't call your stance out as ignorant or anything else. I'm totally cool with what you believe (or not) and it doesn't affect me. But then Hindus, Muslims, Catholics, Mormons and Homosexuals don't bug me either. I respect everyone and in time if their opinions become mine it's cool if my opinions become theirs it's cool.
"You have an arrow in your butt!" - Fiona:cool:
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code-frog wrote:
I understand what you are saying but just because you are saying it does not make you right.
Maybe you can explain it to me, because most everything I know has been told to me. How do I know that George Washington ever existed? I don't feel compelled to dig up his grave and perform DNA analysis to prove it.
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Steve Holle wrote:
You need to find out what it means to accept Jesus as your Saviour and Lord. There is no hope otherwise.
Totally disagree with that! There are billions out there who don't believe in Jesus and I refuse to believe that there's no hope for them. Regards, Nish
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There are billions out there who don't believe in Jesus and I refuse to believe that there's no hope for them.
There is, they can all hope to burn in hell! I'm joking Nish. Trying to show how silly religion can be. Jeremy Falcon
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I agree. Jeremy is constantly challenging how I think and me him both on and off the boards. We pretty much rub at one another constantly. I think we both learn stuff as we go.
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code-frog wrote:
I think we both learn stuff as we go.
But that's what life is all about. :cool: Jeremy Falcon
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Last night my grandfather passed away. He was 89. He was stricken with Parkinsons and a whole host of other ailments that seem to come along when you get 80+ years old. His last 7 years he lived with Dementia, often forgetting the names of his children and close friends. It was the first time I ever saw someone dying right in front of me. His breathing was shallow and rapid. I hate the sight of seeing him in pain. I hate that my final memories are of him in this fragile state. I've always had difficulty accepting death. The idea of "just accept it and move on" seems to never provide me any comfort. When I think about my death or the death of my loved ones, my entire body reacts making my knees weak, heart race, and all of my thoughts are consumed with trying to find resolve. How do you live on in peace knowing the inevitable? Jim RunFatBoy.net[^] - Exercise for the rest of us.
Sorry to hear that man. When my granny (dad's mom) died - it was kinda the same. For 2-3 years prior to her death, she went into a sort of state where she didn't even recognize any of us. Even then, when she did die, I remember feeling really really sad - because all my childhood memories of her came back to me. Time will slowly heal your pains - it's the same for everyone. Try and focus on some other stuff to help you take your mind off this. Good luck. :rose: Regards, Nish
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code-frog wrote:
I understand what you are saying but just because you are saying it does not make you right.
Maybe you can explain it to me, because most everything I know has been told to me. How do I know that George Washington ever existed? I don't feel compelled to dig up his grave and perform DNA analysis to prove it.
Not sure I follow you. What do you want me to explain?
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