How do you cope?
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You said "I don't think there is a way to cope with it." then proceeded to say how balling up your emotions is the best way to help ignore tragedy rather than confront it. How is that comforting?
Actually, I tend to cope with stuff that way too. You'll be amazed how by supressing one's emotions, one can get eliminate that bad feeling. Just because it doesn't work for some, doesn't mean it doesn't work for all. :)
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code-frog wrote:
You do realize that you are attacking people for what they believe and not respecting them for it at all?
I'm not attacking people; I'm attacking religion. The problem with some people is they take everything personally.
code-frog wrote:
"Shiloam" (SP?) would you have attacked them? I doubt it.
Because it wouldn't mean the same thing as what the poster said. If someone said "God bless" I wouldn't have done anything either. Anyway, this is really turning into a SB discussion, so if we continue, at least let it be in there. Jeremy Falcon
No, I agree. These are good points. Even the SB part is right. I was just shadowing all of your posts to kind of say, "Who cares. It's all good." So now I'll say, "Who cares? It's all good.":-D:rose:
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You don't either. In fact you just created division over someone trying to show kindness and support.:rose:
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code-frog wrote:
In fact you just created division over someone trying to show kindness and support.
Hey Rex, This is part of what that guy said :- You need to find out what it means to accept Jesus as your Saviour and Lord. There is no hope otherwise. That last sentence about non-Jesusites having no hope was totally uncalled for! I thought it particularly selfish that he was trying to take advantage of someone's misery to preach his religious beliefs. Regards, Nish
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I understand what you are saying but just because you are saying it does not make you right. It doesn't make you wrong either. It takes as much faith for you to feel the way you do as it does for others to feel the way they do. Notice I don't attack you for how you feel, accuse you of being feeble minded or of inventing something to make you feel better. I don't call your stance out as ignorant or anything else. I'm totally cool with what you believe (or not) and it doesn't affect me. But then Hindus, Muslims, Catholics, Mormons and Homosexuals don't bug me either. I respect everyone and in time if their opinions become mine it's cool if my opinions become theirs it's cool.
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code-frog wrote:
I understand what you are saying but just because you are saying it does not make you right.
Maybe you can explain it to me, because most everything I know has been told to me. How do I know that George Washington ever existed? I don't feel compelled to dig up his grave and perform DNA analysis to prove it.
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Steve Holle wrote:
You need to find out what it means to accept Jesus as your Saviour and Lord. There is no hope otherwise.
Totally disagree with that! There are billions out there who don't believe in Jesus and I refuse to believe that there's no hope for them. Regards, Nish
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Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New)Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
There are billions out there who don't believe in Jesus and I refuse to believe that there's no hope for them.
There is, they can all hope to burn in hell! I'm joking Nish. Trying to show how silly religion can be. Jeremy Falcon
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I agree. Jeremy is constantly challenging how I think and me him both on and off the boards. We pretty much rub at one another constantly. I think we both learn stuff as we go.
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code-frog wrote:
I think we both learn stuff as we go.
But that's what life is all about. :cool: Jeremy Falcon
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Last night my grandfather passed away. He was 89. He was stricken with Parkinsons and a whole host of other ailments that seem to come along when you get 80+ years old. His last 7 years he lived with Dementia, often forgetting the names of his children and close friends. It was the first time I ever saw someone dying right in front of me. His breathing was shallow and rapid. I hate the sight of seeing him in pain. I hate that my final memories are of him in this fragile state. I've always had difficulty accepting death. The idea of "just accept it and move on" seems to never provide me any comfort. When I think about my death or the death of my loved ones, my entire body reacts making my knees weak, heart race, and all of my thoughts are consumed with trying to find resolve. How do you live on in peace knowing the inevitable? Jim RunFatBoy.net[^] - Exercise for the rest of us.
Sorry to hear that man. When my granny (dad's mom) died - it was kinda the same. For 2-3 years prior to her death, she went into a sort of state where she didn't even recognize any of us. Even then, when she did die, I remember feeling really really sad - because all my childhood memories of her came back to me. Time will slowly heal your pains - it's the same for everyone. Try and focus on some other stuff to help you take your mind off this. Good luck. :rose: Regards, Nish
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code-frog wrote:
I understand what you are saying but just because you are saying it does not make you right.
Maybe you can explain it to me, because most everything I know has been told to me. How do I know that George Washington ever existed? I don't feel compelled to dig up his grave and perform DNA analysis to prove it.
Not sure I follow you. What do you want me to explain?
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code-frog wrote:
In fact you just created division over someone trying to show kindness and support.
Hey Rex, This is part of what that guy said :- You need to find out what it means to accept Jesus as your Saviour and Lord. There is no hope otherwise. That last sentence about non-Jesusites having no hope was totally uncalled for! I thought it particularly selfish that he was trying to take advantage of someone's misery to preach his religious beliefs. Regards, Nish
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Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New)Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
I thought it particularly selfish that he was trying to take advantage of someone's misery to preach his religious beliefs.
I don't think it was selfish of him at all. When a Christian tells someone else of their own beliefs, it's usually out of a desire to help the other person. Christianity isn't some pyramid scheme where you get more points in heaven for every person you sign up... :rolleyes:
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You do realize that you are attacking people for what they believe and not respecting them for it at all? If someone had replied and said, "Shalom" (SP?) would you have attacked them? I doubt it.
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No, I agree. These are good points. Even the SB part is right. I was just shadowing all of your posts to kind of say, "Who cares. It's all good." So now I'll say, "Who cares? It's all good.":-D:rose:
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Yeah, I tend to go from zero to 5 million in 2 seconds on emotional posts like this I can easily identify with. But, I kinda lost focus for a bit, and I shouldn't steal the thread. Jeremy Falcon
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code-frog wrote:
In fact you just created division over someone trying to show kindness and support.
Hey Rex, This is part of what that guy said :- You need to find out what it means to accept Jesus as your Saviour and Lord. There is no hope otherwise. That last sentence about non-Jesusites having no hope was totally uncalled for! I thought it particularly selfish that he was trying to take advantage of someone's misery to preach his religious beliefs. Regards, Nish
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Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New)You know I didn't even catch that (you might say my background desensitized me to it). That part I would agree with. It's not respectful. You have me there Nish. :-D
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Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
There are billions out there who don't believe in Jesus and I refuse to believe that there's no hope for them.
There is, they can all hope to burn in hell! I'm joking Nish. Trying to show how silly religion can be. Jeremy Falcon
Do you know if they have nachos in Hell? I hope so, it would suck to go sans nacho for the rest of eternity. I mean, Satan must have some kickin' hot salsa, right? He probably has salsa that's hotter than Hell!! :-D
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Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
There are billions out there who don't believe in Jesus and I refuse to believe that there's no hope for them.
There is, they can all hope to burn in hell! I'm joking Nish. Trying to show how silly religion can be. Jeremy Falcon
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
There is, they can all hope to burn in hell!
:laugh: Regards, Nish
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And worse yet, what if they're all militant about their religion? ;P
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How's it feel to be the man?David Stone wrote:
And worse yet, what if they're all militant about their religion?
You mean like that guy in the Soapbox the other day who said Jesus will beat the crap out of you if you don't believe in him? ;P Then he'll have to resort to his atheist and agnostic friends :) Regards, Nish
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Do you know if they have nachos in Hell? I hope so, it would suck to go sans nacho for the rest of eternity. I mean, Satan must have some kickin' hot salsa, right? He probably has salsa that's hotter than Hell!! :-D
Josh Smith wrote:
Do you know if they have nachos in Hell?
If they don't, then I don't wanna go. :laugh: Jeremy Falcon
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Yes, I did. :-O
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David Stone wrote:
And worse yet, what if they're all militant about their religion?
You mean like that guy in the Soapbox the other day who said Jesus will beat the crap out of you if you don't believe in him? ;P Then he'll have to resort to his atheist and agnostic friends :) Regards, Nish
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You mean like that guy in the Soapbox the other day who said Jesus will beat the crap out of you if you don't believe in him?
Are you serious?! :wtf:
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Jeremy Falcon wrote:
I prefer truth over believing what I've been told because I told so by my parents who had even a lesser understanding of life than future generations will.
True or False: Nero was emperor of Rome.
espeir wrote:
Nero was emperor of Rome.
I know Nero had something to do with Roman times, but my history is fuzzy. What's the point? Jeremy Falcon
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Go outside, pick up the nicest smoothest stone you can find. Throw it as hard as you can and as far as you can. Once it's in the air freak out, try to keep it in the air longer, run and try to catch it, do anything possible to keep it in the air. Nothing you can do is going to prevent that stone from hitting the ground. It's going to. When it does that's it. Nothing you did will have changed that. So I offer you this.
- Appreciate the stone but don't covet it.
- When you throw the stone, aim carefully. You only get one toss so make sure it's path is free of obstructions.
- Admire how well the stone flies, how while it's in the air nothing impedes it's flight.
- When it comes to the ground clear your mind. It's over.
- Go back inside and live your life the way the stone lived it's flight.
Life is not about the destination it's about the journey. Some will tell you that you need God/Religion and while I think that's excellent advice I also think you need to realize that those things you hold on to the tightest will slip through your fingers and because you clutched them so tightly you'll never learn to appreciate them for what they are or were. Consider this. Right now you are not remembering the way your grandfather lived, you are remembering how he died. How do you think he would feel about that? He lived an entire life in front of you and all you can think about is how he died? I think instead he'd want you to cherish the best things about him and to keep him alive in your memories. Death is a brutal fact of life and you may need to seek grief counselling and there's no shame in that it can be very helpful. But I really think you just need lighten your step a bit carry your best memories of him wherever you go and celebrate the fact that for him life is no longer about suffering in physical pain and mental dimentia. Remember the great man he was not the shell of a man he became.:rose:
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