How do you cope?
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Do you know if they have nachos in Hell? I hope so, it would suck to go sans nacho for the rest of eternity. I mean, Satan must have some kickin' hot salsa, right? He probably has salsa that's hotter than Hell!! :-D
Josh Smith wrote:
Do you know if they have nachos in Hell?
I don't know about nachos, but they better have broadband, because if I am going to hell, I am taking my laptop with me. Regards, Nish
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code-frog wrote:
I think we both learn stuff as we go.
But that's what life is all about. :cool: Jeremy Falcon
Yeah for example... By reducing intake and just exercising I feel better. It really doesn't seem to matter at all how I combine those foods. If I eat less that seems to make a lot of difference. For those reading this Jeremy is the only person who will have a clue what I'm talking about.:-D
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David Stone wrote:
When a Christian tells someone else of their own beliefs, it's usually out of a desire to help the other person.
I don't think so - I usually see it as an attempt to convert someone :-)
David Stone wrote:
Christianity isn't some pyramid scheme where you get more points in heaven for every person you sign up...
Most Christians I've known in my life (with some really nice exceptions of course) seemed to behave like there was this pyramid-model. Every chance they got to talk about Jesus they would, even if they could clearly see that the listener wasn't in the least interested. Regards, Nish
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I usually see it as an attempt to convert someone
Right. And the reason they do that is because they want to show the other person something that has helped them immensely. Christians believe that Christianity is the only way to heaven. So why wouldn't they try to share that with people?
Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
Most Christians I've known in my life (with some really nice exceptions of course) seemed to behave like there was this pyramid-model.
I know. It sucks. As a Christian, I have many issues with how other Christians represent this faith in modern culture. They make the rest of us look bad. I don't go around forcing my religion down other people's throats. If they want to know, they ask. And I have had a surprising number of people ask me. (Surprising because I'm not your cookie cutter Christian. So when people find out, they're usually intrigued as to how I can be a Christian and still be into secular music, watch R rated movies, etc etc etc.) And if someone isn't interested, I'm not going to try to talk to them.
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Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
You mean like that guy in the Soapbox the other day who said Jesus will beat the crap out of you if you don't believe in him?
Are you serious?! :wtf:
Josh Smith wrote:
Are you serious?!
Yep, see this thread[^] Regards, Nish
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Beautifully put. However, there is one logical flaw in your advice.
code-frog wrote:
Admire how well the stone flies, how while it's in the air nothing impedes it's flight.
If nothing were to impede upon the stone's flight, then, well, it would never stop flying. :) Josh
Oh come on... That's not physical impedence. That's just a coefficient of static friction, a constant of gravity and a small result of any wind present. I exclude those because... I live in a vacuum.:-D
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Last night my grandfather passed away. He was 89. He was stricken with Parkinsons and a whole host of other ailments that seem to come along when you get 80+ years old. His last 7 years he lived with Dementia, often forgetting the names of his children and close friends. It was the first time I ever saw someone dying right in front of me. His breathing was shallow and rapid. I hate the sight of seeing him in pain. I hate that my final memories are of him in this fragile state. I've always had difficulty accepting death. The idea of "just accept it and move on" seems to never provide me any comfort. When I think about my death or the death of my loved ones, my entire body reacts making my knees weak, heart race, and all of my thoughts are consumed with trying to find resolve. How do you live on in peace knowing the inevitable? Jim RunFatBoy.net[^] - Exercise for the rest of us.
I lost my mother when I was 14. My dad died when I was 21. I actually had to fill in the box "orphan" on my student loan application the following fall. Being almost 30, I have lived half my life without my mother and a fourth without my father. My life is sectioned this way. I feel that I was one person when mom was alive, another when it was just dad, and now I am who I am without them. Does it get better with time? Yes and no. I still cry like a little kid sometimes screaming "I want my mommy." There are moments when it will hit you like a mac truck. Your grandpa had a good life and had family who cared about him. Having someone love you is a wonderful thing. I find some comfort in my religion and talk to G-d about it, and sometimes I have imaginary conversations with my parents. That's how I deal with it. But I know there will always be times when I will crack and bawl. And you know what? I've learned that it's okay, because ignoring the feelings make it much worse. After my dad died I got horribly depressed. My doctor put me on anti-depressants and I'm still on them. I really encourage you that if time goes by you feel depressed (and yes there is a difference between depression and sadness) to please see your doctor. Don't get to the point I did. My best wishes and prayers for you and your family. We are all giving you a big virtual hug.
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David Stone wrote:
And worse yet, what if they're all militant about their religion?
You mean like that guy in the Soapbox the other day who said Jesus will beat the crap out of you if you don't believe in him? ;P Then he'll have to resort to his atheist and agnostic friends :) Regards, Nish
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Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New)Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
You mean like that guy in the Soapbox the other day who said Jesus will beat the crap out of you if you don't believe in him
See...it's that type of Christian that I'm talking about that totally skews public perception of this faith. Not all Christians are like that. Unfortunately, there are enough of them. And they seem to be the most vocal about what they believe...:sigh
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Josh Smith wrote:
Are you serious?!
Yep, see this thread[^] Regards, Nish
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Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New)I wonder if that guy is required to wear a muzzle and straightjacket when he goes out into public...if not, he should!
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espeir wrote:
Nero was emperor of Rome.
I know Nero had something to do with Roman times, but my history is fuzzy. What's the point? Jeremy Falcon
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
I know Nero had something to do with Roman times
How do you know? My point is obviously that most of the education (which you revere but apparently lack) that one gains in life is through others. We only know that Nero existed through writings and archeology...the same as Jesus. Yet you "know" that Nero existed, having only heard of his existence from others. You probably have not undertaken a life-long quest to prove that he existed.
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Oh come on... That's not physical impedence. That's just a coefficient of static friction, a constant of gravity and a small result of any wind present. I exclude those because... I live in a vacuum.:-D
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ROTF - I know. Just prodding and poking. Really, your advice was great. I just had to take a cheap jab. :->
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Last night my grandfather passed away. He was 89. He was stricken with Parkinsons and a whole host of other ailments that seem to come along when you get 80+ years old. His last 7 years he lived with Dementia, often forgetting the names of his children and close friends. It was the first time I ever saw someone dying right in front of me. His breathing was shallow and rapid. I hate the sight of seeing him in pain. I hate that my final memories are of him in this fragile state. I've always had difficulty accepting death. The idea of "just accept it and move on" seems to never provide me any comfort. When I think about my death or the death of my loved ones, my entire body reacts making my knees weak, heart race, and all of my thoughts are consumed with trying to find resolve. How do you live on in peace knowing the inevitable? Jim RunFatBoy.net[^] - Exercise for the rest of us.
:rose: My condolences. :rose: Dealing with the death of a loved one is difficult. Seven years ago I lost both my parents within the span of 5 days. I felt like I was living in a fog for about a year and a half. Even today if I see the right photo or have a vivid memory I can get choked up. I suppose I prefer it this way rather than forgetting them completely. "The trouble with jogging is that the ice falls out of your glass." - Martin Mull
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espeir wrote:
It's like saying, "Dude, I totally banged your wife last night."
If the effect of someone saying that to you is like them remarking about your religion, then you must be sharing her, like your religion, with a lot other people. :-D
"Religion is assurance in numbers." - Bassam Abdul-Baki Web - Blog - RSS - Math
You're clearly not too bright.
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Oh come on... That's not physical impedence. That's just a coefficient of static friction, a constant of gravity and a small result of any wind present. I exclude those because... I live in a vacuum.:-D
"You have an arrow in your butt!" - Fiona:cool:
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code-frog wrote:
I exclude those because... I live in a vacuum.:-D
Great. I almost just spit water out all over my laptop. Thanks a lot Rex. ;P
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Yeah for example... By reducing intake and just exercising I feel better. It really doesn't seem to matter at all how I combine those foods. If I eat less that seems to make a lot of difference. For those reading this Jeremy is the only person who will have a clue what I'm talking about.:-D
"You have an arrow in your butt!" - Fiona:cool:
Welcome to CP in your language. Post the unicode version in My CP Blog [ ^ ] now.People who don't understand how awesome Firefox is have never used CPhog[^]CPhog. The act of using CPhog (Firefox)[^] alone doesn't make Firefox cool. It opens your eyes to the possibilities and then you start looking for other things like CPhog (Firefox)[^] and your eyes are suddenly open to all sorts of useful things all through Firefox. - (Self Quote)
It's amazing to think how awesome the human body really is. It's so resilient. It's meant to move, but most people don't and they don't eat nutritiously. Try running a car for 80+ years without oil, it just won't happen. Jeremy Falcon
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Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
I usually see it as an attempt to convert someone
Right. And the reason they do that is because they want to show the other person something that has helped them immensely. Christians believe that Christianity is the only way to heaven. So why wouldn't they try to share that with people?
Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
Most Christians I've known in my life (with some really nice exceptions of course) seemed to behave like there was this pyramid-model.
I know. It sucks. As a Christian, I have many issues with how other Christians represent this faith in modern culture. They make the rest of us look bad. I don't go around forcing my religion down other people's throats. If they want to know, they ask. And I have had a surprising number of people ask me. (Surprising because I'm not your cookie cutter Christian. So when people find out, they're usually intrigued as to how I can be a Christian and still be into secular music, watch R rated movies, etc etc etc.) And if someone isn't interested, I'm not going to try to talk to them.
Once you wanted revolution
Now you're the institution
How's it feel to be the man?David Stone wrote:
Christians believe that Christianity is the only way to heaven. So why wouldn't they try to share that with people?
Yep, I understand why it's done. I just wish it was done a little less forcibly.
David Stone wrote:
I know. It sucks. As a Christian, I have many issues with how other Christians represent this faith in modern culture. They make the rest of us look bad. I don't go around forcing my religion down other people's throats.
Yes - you definitely don't In fact, to be honest, until today, I thought you'd be an atheist :-)
David Stone wrote:
And if someone isn't interested, I'm not going to try to talk to them.
They should all learn from you I say! :-) Regards, Nish
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Last night my grandfather passed away. He was 89. He was stricken with Parkinsons and a whole host of other ailments that seem to come along when you get 80+ years old. His last 7 years he lived with Dementia, often forgetting the names of his children and close friends. It was the first time I ever saw someone dying right in front of me. His breathing was shallow and rapid. I hate the sight of seeing him in pain. I hate that my final memories are of him in this fragile state. I've always had difficulty accepting death. The idea of "just accept it and move on" seems to never provide me any comfort. When I think about my death or the death of my loved ones, my entire body reacts making my knees weak, heart race, and all of my thoughts are consumed with trying to find resolve. How do you live on in peace knowing the inevitable? Jim RunFatBoy.net[^] - Exercise for the rest of us.
My heartfelt condolences for your terrible loss, and what you are going through because of it. :rose: :rose: My advice: Think about the wonderful person that he was, the cherished memories you have of him. Talk with about these things with others who share the loss. Share memories, keepsakes, and thoughts. Remind yourself of the wonder of his life, brief though it was in the scheme of things, but cherished by those who knew him. Remind yourself that though the closing chapter on his life on earth was so sad, the book of his life is full of what it means to be human - the sorrows and joys, the hopes and disappointments - and it meant so much to him to live that life, and means so much to those who remain to look back on it.
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espeir wrote:
then proceeded to say how balling up your emotions is the best way to help ignore tragedy rather than confront it.
Never once did I say that. Maybe you should stop assuming.
espeir wrote:
How is that comforting?
Read the whole post if it's not too much to ask. Jeremy Falcon
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
Never once did I say that. Maybe you should stop assuming.
I'm not assuming. I read it. You said: "I find that focusing on other stuff is the only way to deal with it." i.e. Emotionally avoid the tragedy.
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
Read the whole post if it's not too much to ask.
Again I did. Programming is not a healthy way to deal with loss and your advice is very poor.
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code-frog wrote:
I exclude those because... I live in a vacuum.:-D
Great. I almost just spit water out all over my laptop. Thanks a lot Rex. ;P
Once you wanted revolution
Now you're the institution
How's it feel to be the man?He-he :laugh:
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Welcome to CP in your language. Post the unicode version in My CP Blog [ ^ ] now.People who don't understand how awesome Firefox is have never used CPhog[^]CPhog. The act of using CPhog (Firefox)[^] alone doesn't make Firefox cool. It opens your eyes to the possibilities and then you start looking for other things like CPhog (Firefox)[^] and your eyes are suddenly open to all sorts of useful things all through Firefox. - (Self Quote)
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David Stone wrote:
Christians believe that Christianity is the only way to heaven. So why wouldn't they try to share that with people?
Yep, I understand why it's done. I just wish it was done a little less forcibly.
David Stone wrote:
I know. It sucks. As a Christian, I have many issues with how other Christians represent this faith in modern culture. They make the rest of us look bad. I don't go around forcing my religion down other people's throats.
Yes - you definitely don't In fact, to be honest, until today, I thought you'd be an atheist :-)
David Stone wrote:
And if someone isn't interested, I'm not going to try to talk to them.
They should all learn from you I say! :-) Regards, Nish
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Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New)Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
until today, I thought you'd be an atheist
Wow. Never had that response. ;P I'm just not very vocal about Christianity. There are far smarter men than myself who have said more about it in a more eloquent way than I ever could. If people ask me about it, I'll start talking with them, but I'm not going to start carrying around "Jesus is coming" on a sandwich board in public. :rolleyes:
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Nishant Sivakumar wrote:
You mean like that guy in the Soapbox the other day who said Jesus will beat the crap out of you if you don't believe in him
See...it's that type of Christian that I'm talking about that totally skews public perception of this faith. Not all Christians are like that. Unfortunately, there are enough of them. And they seem to be the most vocal about what they believe...:sigh
Once you wanted revolution
Now you're the institution
How's it feel to be the man?David Stone wrote:
Not all Christians are like that.
I know. I have some Christian friends who are really cool - they just ignore the fact that I am not a Christian (some of them are a little shocked about my atheist beliefs, but they very nicely keep quiet about it) :-) Regards, Nish
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