How do you cope?
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Oh come on... That's not physical impedence. That's just a coefficient of static friction, a constant of gravity and a small result of any wind present. I exclude those because... I live in a vacuum.:-D
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code-frog wrote:
I live in a vacuum.
oh... that's right... you have kids.... ;P _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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code-frog wrote:
I live in a vacuum.
oh... that's right... you have kids.... ;P _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
No... I think it's them that have me... by the neck.
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You're clearly not too bright.
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Wanna talk about faith? I think you are taking your life in your own hands by eating so much of the junk out their today. It takes *real* faith to eat at McDonald's as that stuff really could kill you.:-D
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code-frog wrote:
It takes *real* faith to eat at McDonald's as that stuff really could kill you.
Touché! :laugh: Jeremy Falcon
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No... I think it's them that have me... by the neck.
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I think most people Jesus was a man and he did once live, it's just that it's hard for some to swallow what he supposedly did. Firstly, the gospels were written long after Jesus lived--we're talking a couple hundred years. It's hard to take it as a historical non-fiction piece when looked at it in that light. If that's what you believe, that's fine with me. If people find comfort in the idea that there are aliens and flying pigs, I don't care. I just want people to be happy. Non-Christians get upset when the extreme Christians basically say, "Believe this or you will die and go to hell." Even that I find funny because of the different sects of Christianity (Catholic versus non-Catholic).
leckey wrote:
irstly, the gospels were written long after Jesus lived--we're talking a couple hundred years. It's hard to take it as a historical non-fiction piece when looked at it in that light.
The gospels were written shortly after Jesus' death (within a couple of decades). They were compiled a couple hundred years later into what is now the accepted New Testament. This was done in order to exclude false works (like the Gospel of Judas) that were written by the gnostics during early Christianity. This isn't a matter of faith but of documented and accepted history (by both secular and religious historians).
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Do you know if they have nachos in Hell? I hope so, it would suck to go sans nacho for the rest of eternity. I mean, Satan must have some kickin' hot salsa, right? He probably has salsa that's hotter than Hell!! :-D
Josh Smith wrote:
He probably has salsa that's hotter than Hell!!
That's my cooking bracket!!! _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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Wrong time, wrong place.
Um, same to you. At least David was showing a sense of humor.
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leckey wrote:
irstly, the gospels were written long after Jesus lived--we're talking a couple hundred years. It's hard to take it as a historical non-fiction piece when looked at it in that light.
The gospels were written shortly after Jesus' death (within a couple of decades). They were compiled a couple hundred years later into what is now the accepted New Testament. This was done in order to exclude false works (like the Gospel of Judas) that were written by the gnostics during early Christianity. This isn't a matter of faith but of documented and accepted history (by both secular and religious historians).
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code-frog wrote:
In fact you just created division over someone trying to show kindness and support.
Hey Rex, This is part of what that guy said :- You need to find out what it means to accept Jesus as your Saviour and Lord. There is no hope otherwise. That last sentence about non-Jesusites having no hope was totally uncalled for! I thought it particularly selfish that he was trying to take advantage of someone's misery to preach his religious beliefs. Regards, Nish
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I thought it particularly selfish that he was trying to take advantage of someone's misery to preach his religious beliefs.
If i recall (and i should, having just started reading this thread), the OP asked us how we cope. If Steve cares to share the hope he's found, i don't see how that was inappropriate...
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brianwelsch wrote:
That's why it's called faith.
Faith is an excuse for ignorance. Jeremy Falcon
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
Faith is an excuse for ignorance.
So are Television, poverty, and your local newspaper. The problem isn't the excuses, it's the people who use them...
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No... I think it's them that have me... by the neck.
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code-frog wrote:
it's them that have me... by the neck.
ahhh, but you know it has its rewards too. Even I can remember a twinkle in the eyes of my ex's kids that made it all worthwhile. I doubt anything I tought remains, but it was worth the effort regardless. The rest they will have to discover the hard way now. _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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I lost my mother when I was 14. My dad died when I was 21. I actually had to fill in the box "orphan" on my student loan application the following fall. Being almost 30, I have lived half my life without my mother and a fourth without my father. My life is sectioned this way. I feel that I was one person when mom was alive, another when it was just dad, and now I am who I am without them. Does it get better with time? Yes and no. I still cry like a little kid sometimes screaming "I want my mommy." There are moments when it will hit you like a mac truck. Your grandpa had a good life and had family who cared about him. Having someone love you is a wonderful thing. I find some comfort in my religion and talk to G-d about it, and sometimes I have imaginary conversations with my parents. That's how I deal with it. But I know there will always be times when I will crack and bawl. And you know what? I've learned that it's okay, because ignoring the feelings make it much worse. After my dad died I got horribly depressed. My doctor put me on anti-depressants and I'm still on them. I really encourage you that if time goes by you feel depressed (and yes there is a difference between depression and sadness) to please see your doctor. Don't get to the point I did. My best wishes and prayers for you and your family. We are all giving you a big virtual hug.
leckey wrote:
I lost my mother when I was 14. My dad died when I was 21.
Ouch, both parents is not an easy thing to deal with. I never lost mine to death, but I lost my father at 4 and my mother at 15 (long story). I'm not sure which is worse, parents dying or parents alive and just don't care about you. Either way, I feel your pain. Jeremy Falcon
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leckey wrote:
I lost my mother when I was 14. My dad died when I was 21.
Ouch, both parents is not an easy thing to deal with. I never lost mine to death, but I lost my father at 4 and my mother at 15 (long story). I'm not sure which is worse, parents dying or parents alive and just don't care about you. Either way, I feel your pain. Jeremy Falcon
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
I'm not sure which is worse
There is no worse, just different. I understand some of it as well. _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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code-frog wrote:
it's them that have me... by the neck.
ahhh, but you know it has its rewards too. Even I can remember a twinkle in the eyes of my ex's kids that made it all worthwhile. I doubt anything I tought remains, but it was worth the effort regardless. The rest they will have to discover the hard way now. _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
Oh, I guess I meant in a fun way. We were all wrestling last night (Paige the 16 month old to) in the sleeping bags and it was a ragingly loud good time. I'm not sure others will agree but to me there are *only* rewards with kids. Yeah they will live their own lives and you just have to respect (as their parents) the choices they make. As a kid you wanted and exercised the same freedom so I don't begrudge it of them. There's only rewards in my book.:rose:
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espeir wrote:
which you revere but apparently lack
This proves you are being stupid. Do not confuse (I'm sure it's difficult for you) not being the most educated in history with not being educated. In case you haven't noticed, there are plenty of fields of study. Also, do not confuse education with intelligence. I hope that's not too much to ask of you.
espeir wrote:
ou probably have not undertaken a life-long quest to prove that he existed.
This is bullshit. It's much easier to prove someone existed than to prove someone that did exist was in fact the son of God. I do believe a man named Jesus could've very well existed. I do not believe he was without sin and the son of God. Granted, it all comes down to "what's written" and what we choose to believe about it. Let's say Nero didn't really exist, well at least we are not basing religion and fundamental ways of current life on that. And, we can still take the lessons of history from that. We cannot do the same with Jesus being or not being the son of God. Jeremy Falcon
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
This proves you are being stupid. Do not confuse (I'm sure it's difficult for you) not being the most educated in history with not being educated. In case you haven't noticed, there are plenty of fields of study. Also, do not confuse education with intelligence. I hope that's not too much to ask of you.
Well...Not having heard of Nero is pretty uneducated, but that's besides the point. The point is that every educated person derives his knowledge from what others have told him. That is pretty much the definition of education. To dismiss something merely because you did not learn it from direct personal experience is ignorance.
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Why does that not surprise me?
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Steve Holle wrote:
You need to find out what it means to accept Jesus as your Saviour and Lord. There is no hope otherwise.
Totally disagree with that! There are billions out there who don't believe in Jesus and I refuse to believe that there's no hope for them. Regards, Nish
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There are billions out there who don't believe in Jesus and I refuse to believe that there's no hope for them.
I think when he said "hope", he meant hope in life after death. :rose:
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Jeremy Falcon wrote:
This proves you are being stupid. Do not confuse (I'm sure it's difficult for you) not being the most educated in history with not being educated. In case you haven't noticed, there are plenty of fields of study. Also, do not confuse education with intelligence. I hope that's not too much to ask of you.
Well...Not having heard of Nero is pretty uneducated, but that's besides the point. The point is that every educated person derives his knowledge from what others have told him. That is pretty much the definition of education. To dismiss something merely because you did not learn it from direct personal experience is ignorance.
espeir wrote:
Well...Not having heard of Nero is pretty uneducated, but that's besides the point.
Duh, I said I did hear of him. But, that's beside the point.
espeir wrote:
The point is that every educated person derives his knowledge from what others have told him. That is pretty much the definition of education.
Maybe every educated person, but not to be a truly intelligent being. You do remember the difference don't you?
espeir wrote:
To dismiss something merely because you did not learn it from direct personal experience is ignorance.
Nobody said that was the reason. Jeremy Falcon
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Last night my grandfather passed away. He was 89. He was stricken with Parkinsons and a whole host of other ailments that seem to come along when you get 80+ years old. His last 7 years he lived with Dementia, often forgetting the names of his children and close friends. It was the first time I ever saw someone dying right in front of me. His breathing was shallow and rapid. I hate the sight of seeing him in pain. I hate that my final memories are of him in this fragile state. I've always had difficulty accepting death. The idea of "just accept it and move on" seems to never provide me any comfort. When I think about my death or the death of my loved ones, my entire body reacts making my knees weak, heart race, and all of my thoughts are consumed with trying to find resolve. How do you live on in peace knowing the inevitable? Jim RunFatBoy.net[^] - Exercise for the rest of us.
My grandfather died just a few years back, 84 years old. Up 'till the last year of his life, he would still ride his dirt bike out into the fields each day, with the dogs running along side. Seeing him weaken and succumb to cancer so quickly was hard... at the same time, i know he never gave up on Life. I treasure the memories of the time i got to spend with him, and hope to be reunited again some day.
AAntix wrote:
How do you live on in peace knowing the inevitable?
Because i don't know the inevitable. Oh, sure - this body is gonna wear out and fail, as sure as the sun is gonna rise. But when, where, or how that'll happen is far from a given. Much less so what happens after that. There's a corrolary to what Steve wrote, btw: don't put your faith in things you know will fail. Enjoy what you have today, do your best to make the most of it. But if you want hope for tomorrow, you'll need to look beyond this world where all things eventually crumble and pass away.
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