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  • S Sameers Javed

    Someone said, it is impossible to be a good developer until he smokes. Are you a good developer? My fellow developers with me are used to smoke, however, I never saw anyone who is good in development and avoid smoking. Sameers (theAngrycodeR) Need custom software? Contact DevelopersINN[^] Need to add reminders for your Outlook emails? Try Outlook Personal Assistant[^]

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    brianwelsch
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    Maybe it's a reference to coding until burn out or burning the midnight oil. :~ Or maybe it was one of things people say that you're supposed roll your eyes at and ignore. :rolleyes: BW


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    • N Nish Nishant

      Maybe they were talking about smoked Salmon - that's good stuff. I don't know if it helps your coding, though. Regards, Nish


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      Shog9 0
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      Isn't fish supposed to be brain food? ;)

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        Someone said, it is impossible to be a good developer until he smokes. Are you a good developer? My fellow developers with me are used to smoke, however, I never saw anyone who is good in development and avoid smoking. Sameers (theAngrycodeR) Need custom software? Contact DevelopersINN[^] Need to add reminders for your Outlook emails? Try Outlook Personal Assistant[^]

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        Shog9 0
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        Sameers (theAngrycodeR ) wrote:

        Someone said, it is impossible to be a good developer until he smokes.

        Naw, that's a myth. It just makes you think you're a good programmer.

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          Sameers (theAngrycodeR ) wrote:

          Someone said, it is impossible to be a good developer until he smokes.

          Naw, that's a myth. It just makes you think you're a good programmer.

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          RC_Sebastien_C
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          Shog9 wrote:

          It just makes you think you're a good programmer.

          :-D and funny and hungry

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          • S Steve Mayfield

            how can you be a great developer if you spend half of your time smoking???...here, smoking in the office is not allowed, so while you are smoking, you can't be developing code (unless you take a laptop outside)...smoking requires at least one hand, so you would need to be a real good one handed typist...or risk getting ashes in the keyboard...and when you should be developing code, your thinking about how many more minutes to the next break so you can light up again :doh: Steve

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            RC_Sebastien_C
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            Steve Mayfield wrote:

            smoking requires at least one hand, so you would need to be a real good one handed typist...

            So does talking on the phone, being in a meeting, talking to customers, on the whiteboard ... Greatest developers I`ve seen are the ones spending the less time typing code (during office time).

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            • S Sameers Javed

              Someone said, it is impossible to be a good developer until he smokes. Are you a good developer? My fellow developers with me are used to smoke, however, I never saw anyone who is good in development and avoid smoking. Sameers (theAngrycodeR) Need custom software? Contact DevelopersINN[^] Need to add reminders for your Outlook emails? Try Outlook Personal Assistant[^]

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              Lost User
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              A smoker is not nessasarily a good or bad programmer. I am a smoker but it is pretty rare in this industry in Australia. I probably waste more of my time on the office pool table than I do smoking outside. Objects in mirror are closer than they appear

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              • P Phil Martin

                I think that someone who said that is just addicted to smoking. I avoid smoking like the plague, because it pretty much is. And if that makes me bad in development, well, I think I can live with that. Empahsis on live. :) - Phil****

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                Jim Gary
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                Smoking is pretty much like The Plague, eh? Smoking is a viral infection? Huh..?? I never would have guessed... ...I guess my parents didn't get me immunized for that one. At least I'm free of Small Pox; that's good enough for me. That statement presents another odd point for consideration. When The Plagues swept through Euprope in the...what? 1300's? 1400's or so?...tobacco was not yet introduced to Europe. I'd have to research that to know for sure, and I don't have the time, so I won't. Back to my code...let's see where was I...? Ah yes...! DataDisaster ddBigMess = new DataDisaster(); ddBigMess.RenderDataModelUseless(this._dsImportantData); Good night Jim

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                  Smoking is pretty much like The Plague, eh? Smoking is a viral infection? Huh..?? I never would have guessed... ...I guess my parents didn't get me immunized for that one. At least I'm free of Small Pox; that's good enough for me. That statement presents another odd point for consideration. When The Plagues swept through Euprope in the...what? 1300's? 1400's or so?...tobacco was not yet introduced to Europe. I'd have to research that to know for sure, and I don't have the time, so I won't. Back to my code...let's see where was I...? Ah yes...! DataDisaster ddBigMess = new DataDisaster(); ddBigMess.RenderDataModelUseless(this._dsImportantData); Good night Jim

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                  Phil Martin
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                  Jim Gary wrote:

                  Smoking is pretty much like The Plague, eh? Smoking is a viral infection? Huh..?? I never would have guessed...

                  Sigh. No, I didn't mean that Captain Literal. To "Avoid something like the plague" is a local colloquialism to mean "to keep away from as much as you possibly bloody well can" And my folks are in the same boat as yours. - Phil -- modified at 0:07 Friday 7th July, 2006 (Just added in an extra explanation about what I mean)

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                    Sameers (theAngrycodeR ) wrote:

                    Someone said, it is impossible to be a good developer until he smokes.

                    Naw, that's a myth. It just makes you think you're a good programmer.

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                    Edbert P
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                    When I read your post title I thought you're going to talk about Puff The Magic Dragon. "You are special, but so is everybody else." "Democracy is two wolves and a sheep voting on what to have for dinner" - Ross Edbert Sydney, Australia

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                    • S Sameers Javed

                      Someone said, it is impossible to be a good developer until he smokes. Are you a good developer? My fellow developers with me are used to smoke, however, I never saw anyone who is good in development and avoid smoking. Sameers (theAngrycodeR) Need custom software? Contact DevelopersINN[^] Need to add reminders for your Outlook emails? Try Outlook Personal Assistant[^]

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                      Eytukan
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                      a chain smoker of C++. Without that I cannot develop better applications.


                      --[:jig:]-- [My Current Status]

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                      • S Sameers Javed

                        Someone said, it is impossible to be a good developer until he smokes. Are you a good developer? My fellow developers with me are used to smoke, however, I never saw anyone who is good in development and avoid smoking. Sameers (theAngrycodeR) Need custom software? Contact DevelopersINN[^] Need to add reminders for your Outlook emails? Try Outlook Personal Assistant[^]

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                        Jim A Johnson
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                        Utter baloney. Only idiots smoke; idiots can't be good developers.

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                        • S Sameers Javed

                          Someone said, it is impossible to be a good developer until he smokes. Are you a good developer? My fellow developers with me are used to smoke, however, I never saw anyone who is good in development and avoid smoking. Sameers (theAngrycodeR) Need custom software? Contact DevelopersINN[^] Need to add reminders for your Outlook emails? Try Outlook Personal Assistant[^]

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                          Smith
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                          Cigarets are like viagra for programmers who cannot think as normally as other "healthy" programmers DO. :->

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                          • S Sameers Javed

                            Someone said, it is impossible to be a good developer until he smokes. Are you a good developer? My fellow developers with me are used to smoke, however, I never saw anyone who is good in development and avoid smoking. Sameers (theAngrycodeR) Need custom software? Contact DevelopersINN[^] Need to add reminders for your Outlook emails? Try Outlook Personal Assistant[^]

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                            El Corazon
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                            Sameers (theAngrycodeR ) wrote:

                            Someone said, it is impossible to be a good developer until he smokes. Are you a good developer?

                            I think someone mistook the real saying.... "It is impossible to be a good developer until you smoke a computer." (as in computer slang for "let the smoke out" "burn up" etc.) I have only known about 1 in 50 developers who smoke. But all the quality programmers I know have overloaded and smoked a computer. _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                            • S Sameers Javed

                              Someone said, it is impossible to be a good developer until he smokes. Are you a good developer? My fellow developers with me are used to smoke, however, I never saw anyone who is good in development and avoid smoking. Sameers (theAngrycodeR) Need custom software? Contact DevelopersINN[^] Need to add reminders for your Outlook emails? Try Outlook Personal Assistant[^]

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                              realJSOP
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                              Sameers (theAngrycodeR ) wrote:

                              Are you a good developer?

                              Are you naturally stupid, or did you have to practice just for your message today? Maybe you and the guy that is held back from being a good developer by not being able to type should get together...

                              "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                              "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                                how can you be a great developer if you spend half of your time smoking???...here, smoking in the office is not allowed, so while you are smoking, you can't be developing code (unless you take a laptop outside)...smoking requires at least one hand, so you would need to be a real good one handed typist...or risk getting ashes in the keyboard...and when you should be developing code, your thinking about how many more minutes to the next break so you can light up again :doh: Steve

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                                Sameers Javed
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                                Is it necessary to let one hand always busy while you are smoking? In this third world, there are many things invented for example "ash tray" where you can place your cigerate after having some smoke and continue working. I do that always and I know, I work faster than any other (atleast certified by my clients :->). I usually smoke a packet in a day (and in all day, I spend about 10 hours sleeping. enough time or I should increase it:zzz:) which includes not more than 8-10 hours of work. Apart from the jokes and other non serious words, I believe that developers must be allowed to smoke on their seats. I bet you, it will increase their ability to programme. I am a good developer btw! Sameers Need custom software? Contact DevelopersINN[^] Need to add reminders for your Outlook emails? Try Outlook Personal Assistant[^]

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                                  Sameers (theAngrycodeR ) wrote:

                                  Are you a good developer?

                                  Are you naturally stupid, or did you have to practice just for your message today? Maybe you and the guy that is held back from being a good developer by not being able to type should get together...

                                  "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                                  -----
                                  "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                                  Sameers Javed
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                                  wow! stupid? Do u think so?

                                  John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                  Sameers (theAngrycodeR ) wrote: Are you a good developer?

                                  Do you know why I wrote that? it means are you smoker and a good developer? Just wanna analyze that how many "developers" are addicted of smoking. BTW:

                                  John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                  Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass

                                  Need custom software? Contact DevelopersINN[^] Need to add reminders for your Outlook emails? Try Outlook Personal Assistant[^]

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                                    wow! stupid? Do u think so?

                                    John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                    Sameers (theAngrycodeR ) wrote: Are you a good developer?

                                    Do you know why I wrote that? it means are you smoker and a good developer? Just wanna analyze that how many "developers" are addicted of smoking. BTW:

                                    John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                    Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass

                                    Need custom software? Contact DevelopersINN[^] Need to add reminders for your Outlook emails? Try Outlook Personal Assistant[^]

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                                    Mr Emtyaz Ahmud
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                                    Hello, Smoking is not only for DEVELOPERS, Its part of life every human. "As Computer is useless without Display, Developer Fail without Smoking" Mr.EmtyazAhmud TheAngryWebmaster

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                                    • S Sameers Javed

                                      wow! stupid? Do u think so?

                                      John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                      Sameers (theAngrycodeR ) wrote: Are you a good developer?

                                      Do you know why I wrote that? it means are you smoker and a good developer? Just wanna analyze that how many "developers" are addicted of smoking. BTW:

                                      John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                      Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass

                                      Need custom software? Contact DevelopersINN[^] Need to add reminders for your Outlook emails? Try Outlook Personal Assistant[^]

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                                      realJSOP
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                                      Sameers (theAngrycodeR ) wrote:

                                      wow! stupid? Do u think so?

                                      Yeah, you're stupid. Only an idiot would associate smoking (or typing skills) with being a good programmer.

                                      Sameers (theAngrycodeR ) wrote:

                                      Do you know why I wrote that? it means are you smoker and a good developer? Just wanna analyze that how many "developers" are addicted of smoking.

                                      Yeah, because you couldn't think of anything else that was actually worth saying. Go back to your mud hut and stop stealing electricity and an internet connection from your neighbor.

                                      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                                      -----
                                      "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

                                      -- modified at 7:58 Friday 7th July, 2006

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                                        Sameers (theAngrycodeR ) wrote:

                                        wow! stupid? Do u think so?

                                        Yeah, you're stupid. Only an idiot would associate smoking (or typing skills) with being a good programmer.

                                        Sameers (theAngrycodeR ) wrote:

                                        Do you know why I wrote that? it means are you smoker and a good developer? Just wanna analyze that how many "developers" are addicted of smoking.

                                        Yeah, because you couldn't think of anything else that was actually worth saying. Go back to your mud hut and stop stealing electricity and an internet connection from your neighbor.

                                        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                                        -----
                                        "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

                                        -- modified at 7:58 Friday 7th July, 2006

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                                        Sameers Javed
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                                        John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                        Yeah, you're stupid. Only an idiot would associate smoking (or typing skills) with being a good programmer.

                                        Come on! analysing habbits of people doesn't make anyone stupid. If it was, then there are many many research making peoples are stupid.

                                        John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                        Yeah, because you couldn't think of anything else that was actually worth saying. Go back to your mud hut and stop stealing electricity and an internet connection from your neighbor.

                                        I heard so from many peoples locally, so I just thought to know globally. If you dont like smoking, thats a good sign. But it doesn't mean smokers live in "mud hut" and "steal electricity and internet connection from neighbours". BTW, smoking is worst or drinking? though both are bad, which one is more? (just another question if it dont make you bother ;P) I smoke, but dont drink. Sameers Need custom software? Contact DevelopersINN[^] Need to add reminders for your Outlook emails? Try Outlook Personal Assistant[^]

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                                        • S Shaun Wilde

                                          Chris Maunder wrote:

                                          I don't actually know (personally) a good developer who smokes.

                                          ditto - all the ones I knew (don't think anyone on the current gig smokes) spent most of their time outside smoking. Some even considered that smoking was actually part of the role and thus did 10-20% less per day then the rest.

                                          I'll be more enthusiastic about encouraging thinking outside the box when there's evidence of any thinking going on inside it. - pTerry
                                          www.many-monkeys.com

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                                          Gavin Roberts
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                                          :O offended. I'm a developer for a UK Data storage firm, and my colleague and I are out every hour smoking. We call it an effective brain storm session where we can reflect on our current/future problems before sticking into the work again. Gav

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