I hate this world.
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Funny, mine tells me to keep the grandkids to myself. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog
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Paul Selormey wrote:
Now, brother break it down...which parts does not make sense to you and why?
Every part of it, starting from Genesis. Why did God even create the world in the first place, and have us suffer. The book of Genesis wasn't even written by one person, it is a collection of many stories written by many different authors.
Paul Selormey wrote:
Simply, probably you do not have a relation to the one you are speaking to, or you are simply not yet His child.
I was baptized when I was born, I go to church almost every sunday since I was a little boy, I was educated in Catholic school, I pray every night before I sleep. Still not his child? Then no one will be. Everyone I know who don't go to church or believe in God have a better life than me.
Paul Selormey wrote:
Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.
HAHAHA, yeah right.
Link2006 wrote:
Why did God even create the world in the first place
Because He could.
Link2006 wrote:
and have us suffer
God doesn't make anyone suffer. But, suffering is inevitable, and without it, there would not be joy.
Link2006 wrote:
The book of Genesis wasn't even written by one person, it is a collection of many stories written by many different authors.
Can you prove that ? I thought Moses wrote all of the first five books. Either way, I could care less who wrote it, what does that prove ?
Link2006 wrote:
I was baptized when I was born
I'm afraid that means nothing. Infant 'baptism' has no basis in the Bible.
Link2006 wrote:
I go to church almost every sunday since I was a little boy
So do a lot of people, many of them are no different for it.
Link2006 wrote:
I was educated in Catholic school,
Apart from anything else I might say about this, this was plainly not something you chose, so how can it represent a step you took towards God ?
Link2006 wrote:
I pray every night before I sleep
But what do you pray ? How does your prayer influence how you act during the day ?
Link2006 wrote:
Still not his child? Then no one will be.
You're looking in the wrong places for God, and completely underestimating Him.
Link2006 wrote:
Everyone I know who don't go to church or believe in God have a better life than me.
Everyone has hard times. Have you read the book of Job ? Read it again and imagine it's *actually* happening to YOU and not just words on a page. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog
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Why did God even create this world in the first place?? If God is so forgiveful and mercyful, why did He send us to Earth to suffer just because Eve and Adam ate an apple from a forbidden tree? Then He send His own son to die on cross for our sin? If our sin is no longer existed, why aren't we in Heaven now? The more I read the bible, the more it doesn't make sense. The more I pray, the more I suffer. Why... :(:doh::sigh: I hate this world.
Link2006 wrote:
The more I pray, the more I suffer. Why..
Thats the destiny :)
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Why did God even create this world in the first place?? If God is so forgiveful and mercyful, why did He send us to Earth to suffer just because Eve and Adam ate an apple from a forbidden tree? Then He send His own son to die on cross for our sin? If our sin is no longer existed, why aren't we in Heaven now? The more I read the bible, the more it doesn't make sense. The more I pray, the more I suffer. Why... :(:doh::sigh: I hate this world.
;)hai, I dont know much about these things. If you want be in heaven ask me i will really show u the way and u will be there enjoying it. Ur Friend
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Link2006 wrote:
Why did God even create the world in the first place
Because He could.
Link2006 wrote:
and have us suffer
God doesn't make anyone suffer. But, suffering is inevitable, and without it, there would not be joy.
Link2006 wrote:
The book of Genesis wasn't even written by one person, it is a collection of many stories written by many different authors.
Can you prove that ? I thought Moses wrote all of the first five books. Either way, I could care less who wrote it, what does that prove ?
Link2006 wrote:
I was baptized when I was born
I'm afraid that means nothing. Infant 'baptism' has no basis in the Bible.
Link2006 wrote:
I go to church almost every sunday since I was a little boy
So do a lot of people, many of them are no different for it.
Link2006 wrote:
I was educated in Catholic school,
Apart from anything else I might say about this, this was plainly not something you chose, so how can it represent a step you took towards God ?
Link2006 wrote:
I pray every night before I sleep
But what do you pray ? How does your prayer influence how you act during the day ?
Link2006 wrote:
Still not his child? Then no one will be.
You're looking in the wrong places for God, and completely underestimating Him.
Link2006 wrote:
Everyone I know who don't go to church or believe in God have a better life than me.
Everyone has hard times. Have you read the book of Job ? Read it again and imagine it's *actually* happening to YOU and not just words on a page. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog
God bless you richly, and may you shine accordingly to His promises. Best regards, Paul. Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.
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God bless you richly, and may you shine accordingly to His promises. Best regards, Paul. Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.
Paul Selormey wrote:
God bless you richly
He certainly has. Sometimes I pinch myself, my life is so great.
Paul Selormey wrote:
may you shine accordingly to His promises.
I'm trying, I really am... Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog
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Link2006 wrote:
Why did God even create the world in the first place
Because He could.
Link2006 wrote:
and have us suffer
God doesn't make anyone suffer. But, suffering is inevitable, and without it, there would not be joy.
Link2006 wrote:
The book of Genesis wasn't even written by one person, it is a collection of many stories written by many different authors.
Can you prove that ? I thought Moses wrote all of the first five books. Either way, I could care less who wrote it, what does that prove ?
Link2006 wrote:
I was baptized when I was born
I'm afraid that means nothing. Infant 'baptism' has no basis in the Bible.
Link2006 wrote:
I go to church almost every sunday since I was a little boy
So do a lot of people, many of them are no different for it.
Link2006 wrote:
I was educated in Catholic school,
Apart from anything else I might say about this, this was plainly not something you chose, so how can it represent a step you took towards God ?
Link2006 wrote:
I pray every night before I sleep
But what do you pray ? How does your prayer influence how you act during the day ?
Link2006 wrote:
Still not his child? Then no one will be.
You're looking in the wrong places for God, and completely underestimating Him.
Link2006 wrote:
Everyone I know who don't go to church or believe in God have a better life than me.
Everyone has hard times. Have you read the book of Job ? Read it again and imagine it's *actually* happening to YOU and not just words on a page. Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog
Christian Graus wrote:
suffering is inevitable, and without it, there would not be joy
Well said. I was about to post something similar. And suffering is relative. There are people in this world who really really suffer 99.9% of their lives. Talk to them and you might realise your "suffering" is not suffering at all, but just a period of unhappiness.
"Nothing ever changes by staying the same." - David Brent (BBC's The Office)
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Why did God even create this world in the first place?? If God is so forgiveful and mercyful, why did He send us to Earth to suffer just because Eve and Adam ate an apple from a forbidden tree? Then He send His own son to die on cross for our sin? If our sin is no longer existed, why aren't we in Heaven now? The more I read the bible, the more it doesn't make sense. The more I pray, the more I suffer. Why... :(:doh::sigh: I hate this world.
The problem is you don't love your self, There is a wonderful vibrant world to be discovered out there, but first you have to be happy with yourself first. If you aren't happy with yourself and who you are, then even the most beautiful sunny day can feel like the darkest storm. For those who believe, the most important thing is to remember that 'God' only takes care of the things that we can't handle ourselves. So concentrate on the everyday things and let the 'Universe' worry about the rest. For those who don't believe, well we just get on the best we can. Safe in the knowledge, that this is the only chance we get, so we try and make it the best one we can. Life is wonderful and fantastic but you've got to put some effort into it. Michael CP Blog [^] Development Blog [^]
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Paul Selormey wrote:
Now, brother break it down...which parts does not make sense to you and why?
Every part of it, starting from Genesis. Why did God even create the world in the first place, and have us suffer. The book of Genesis wasn't even written by one person, it is a collection of many stories written by many different authors.
Paul Selormey wrote:
Simply, probably you do not have a relation to the one you are speaking to, or you are simply not yet His child.
I was baptized when I was born, I go to church almost every sunday since I was a little boy, I was educated in Catholic school, I pray every night before I sleep. Still not his child? Then no one will be. Everyone I know who don't go to church or believe in God have a better life than me.
Paul Selormey wrote:
Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.
HAHAHA, yeah right.
Link2006 wrote:
Everyone I know who don't go to church or believe in God have a better life than me.
That's because they do something about their lives, and don't expect things to fall out of the sky for them, or miracles to happen to improve their live. You need to be aware that only you can make a difference in your life. No one else will bother. From the look of things you attend church just so that god will help you have a better life. That ain't the way to go. regards, Mircea Many people spend their life going to sleep when they’re not sleepy and waking up while they still are.
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Why did God even create this world in the first place?? If God is so forgiveful and mercyful, why did He send us to Earth to suffer just because Eve and Adam ate an apple from a forbidden tree? Then He send His own son to die on cross for our sin? If our sin is no longer existed, why aren't we in Heaven now? The more I read the bible, the more it doesn't make sense. The more I pray, the more I suffer. Why... :(:doh::sigh: I hate this world.
Link2006 wrote:
Why did God even create this world in the first place??
He didn't. It was an open source project. Anyone who thinks he has a better idea of what's good for people than people do is a swine. - P.J. O'Rourke
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Why did God even create this world in the first place?? If God is so forgiveful and mercyful, why did He send us to Earth to suffer just because Eve and Adam ate an apple from a forbidden tree? Then He send His own son to die on cross for our sin? If our sin is no longer existed, why aren't we in Heaven now? The more I read the bible, the more it doesn't make sense. The more I pray, the more I suffer. Why... :(:doh::sigh: I hate this world.
Here's an analogy. I don't understand you, and I never will. However I have absolute faith in you. That you will always make posts demonstrating your idiocy. Now does the bible make more sense to you? Marc XPressTier
Some people believe what the bible says. Literally. At least [with Wikipedia] you have the chance to correct the wiki -- Jörgen Sigvardsson
People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
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Paul Selormey wrote:
Now, brother break it down...which parts does not make sense to you and why?
Every part of it, starting from Genesis. Why did God even create the world in the first place, and have us suffer. The book of Genesis wasn't even written by one person, it is a collection of many stories written by many different authors.
Paul Selormey wrote:
Simply, probably you do not have a relation to the one you are speaking to, or you are simply not yet His child.
I was baptized when I was born, I go to church almost every sunday since I was a little boy, I was educated in Catholic school, I pray every night before I sleep. Still not his child? Then no one will be. Everyone I know who don't go to church or believe in God have a better life than me.
Paul Selormey wrote:
Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.
HAHAHA, yeah right.
If you're trying to understand your Faith and your relationship with God, my advice would be to first read the Gospels and Acts. Once you understand how Jesus approached life and others you'll be far better equipped to make sense of the rest of the Bible than trying to understand it cold. :rose: Anna :rose: Currently working mostly on: Visual Lint :cool: Anna's Place | Tears and Laughter "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch "Anna's just a sexy-looking lesbian tart" - A friend, trying to wind me up. It didn't work.
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Paul Selormey wrote:
Now, brother break it down...which parts does not make sense to you and why?
Every part of it, starting from Genesis. Why did God even create the world in the first place, and have us suffer. The book of Genesis wasn't even written by one person, it is a collection of many stories written by many different authors.
Paul Selormey wrote:
Simply, probably you do not have a relation to the one you are speaking to, or you are simply not yet His child.
I was baptized when I was born, I go to church almost every sunday since I was a little boy, I was educated in Catholic school, I pray every night before I sleep. Still not his child? Then no one will be. Everyone I know who don't go to church or believe in God have a better life than me.
Paul Selormey wrote:
Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.
HAHAHA, yeah right.
The basic premise of Christianity is faith. A simple belief in God, and that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and died for our sins. Simple in theory, difficult in practise.
Link2006 wrote:
Why did God even create the world in the first place, and have us suffer.
Nobody but God alone can answer that. Nobody knows how God thinks or why he does what he does. Most Christians generally accept that he created the earth for his pleasure. And who are we to question that? God is supreme; perfect. What he does is beyond reproach and is always right. God does not intend for us to suffer. He allows us to suffer the consequences of the choices that we make. To do anything else would not be love, and God is Love. He could prevent anything bad from happening to us, but then we would never grow; we would never become more mature, or learn to depend on Him only. He gives us the freedom to make our own decisions simply because He loves us. But having said that, he never allows us to destroy ourselves. Everything that happens to us is something we can cope with, provided we rely on Him for our strength. If we try to do everything by ourselves, we will fail. We have to say "Ok God. This one is yours. I can't do this by myself. I trust you to look after it", and then just get on with life and let Him do what He thinks is best. Trust me, it works. I came perilously close to suicide (less than 30mins) before I realised this, and that was only with the help of an awesome friend. God doesn't want us to suffer, but uses hardship to grow us and make us depend more on Him.
Link2006 wrote:
The book of Genesis wasn't even written by one person, it is a collection of many stories written by many different authors.
Actually, Genesis is a book of history, not stories, and was written by one person - Moses. He wrote the first five books of the Bible - Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Deuteronomy and Numbers.
Link2006 wrote:
I was baptized when I was born
As others have said, this is not based on anything in the Bible. Unless baptism is of your own choice, it is meaningless. You, and only you, can make a decision to believe in Christ - nobody can make that decision for you.
Link2006 wrote:
I go to church almost every sunday since I was a little boy
Unfortunately, that means almost nothing. I know some great Christia
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Why did God even create this world in the first place?? If God is so forgiveful and mercyful, why did He send us to Earth to suffer just because Eve and Adam ate an apple from a forbidden tree? Then He send His own son to die on cross for our sin? If our sin is no longer existed, why aren't we in Heaven now? The more I read the bible, the more it doesn't make sense. The more I pray, the more I suffer. Why... :(:doh::sigh: I hate this world.
Sucker! God doesnt exist you fool. Your life is in your hands. It is up to you to make what you want out of it. So stop whining, get of your arse and do something YOU want to do. Go climb a mountain, go start a business, go sailing, whatever the hell it is, stop thinking and start doing! Tronché pas ma miche!
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Why did God even create this world in the first place?? If God is so forgiveful and mercyful, why did He send us to Earth to suffer just because Eve and Adam ate an apple from a forbidden tree? Then He send His own son to die on cross for our sin? If our sin is no longer existed, why aren't we in Heaven now? The more I read the bible, the more it doesn't make sense. The more I pray, the more I suffer. Why... :(:doh::sigh: I hate this world.
Grow up and learn the world isn't centered around you. The tigress is here :-D
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Why did God even create this world in the first place?? If God is so forgiveful and mercyful, why did He send us to Earth to suffer just because Eve and Adam ate an apple from a forbidden tree? Then He send His own son to die on cross for our sin? If our sin is no longer existed, why aren't we in Heaven now? The more I read the bible, the more it doesn't make sense. The more I pray, the more I suffer. Why... :(:doh::sigh: I hate this world.
Are you posting this from somewhere in Boise?
"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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“Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is impotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Whence then is evil?” [Epicurus]
Miszou wrote:
Is he able, but not willing?
I disagree. It would be malevolent to override freewill and relegate his actions to puppet mastery. If there is freewill, there will be evil, if there is no freewill then we're all just a bunch of puppets with no value. Can't have it both ways. Someday humans need to jump off this bandwagon and realize that they're responsible for their own behavior. This statement is false.
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Paul Selormey wrote:
God bless you richly
He certainly has. Sometimes I pinch myself, my life is so great.
Paul Selormey wrote:
may you shine accordingly to His promises.
I'm trying, I really am... Christian Graus - Microsoft MVP - C++ Metal Musings - Rex and my new metal blog
God bless you richly He certainly has. Sometimes I pinch myself, my life is so great.
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I will love to help, if you will permit me...
Link2006 wrote:
The more I read the bible, the more it doesn't make sense.
Hmmm, just last week, I received a pack of 58 CD-ROM of Audio Bible. Guess what, I will be playing two each day to make listen to the whole Bible every month! Now, brother break it down...which parts does not make sense to you and why?
Link2006 wrote:
The more I pray, the more I suffer. Why...
Simply, probably you do not have a relation to the one you are speaking to, or you are simply not yet His child. Definitely, if you email my grand-father for a new car he will not send it to you. At least for one thing, he does not know you. Best regards, Paul. Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody.
Paul Selormey wrote:
or you are simply not yet His child.
This is a birthright. Not something earned.
Paul Selormey wrote:
Definitely, if you email my grand-father for a new car he will not send it to you. At least for one thing, he does not know you.
The theory is omnipotence and knowing it all, so your statement is under false assumptions, and implies a limited deity, which then, wouldn't be all knowing. This guy is just a troll looking to spark controversy with played out tired old themes. Change the tape man. This one is getting old. ------------------------------------- Give a monkey a brain and he'll think he's the center of the universe. ~Fishbone Some people never go crazy. What truly horrible lives they must lead. ~Charles Bukowski This statement is false. ~me
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Only serves to let us appreciate joy. A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the Universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." -- Stephen Crane
At the root of all suffering is desire. The key to desire is to desire that which you already have. This statement is false.
