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Can Zune kill the iPod? [modified]

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  • C Chris Losinger

    ePug wrote:

    You may have bought it, but you don't own it

    so, you think MS is going to come out with some kind of restriction-free, no-DRM service ?

    Let's execute on the customer-facing market-driven swim-lane paradigm!

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    ePug
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    I guess my point was lost on you. I wasn't going after anything specific other than I hate Macs, especially their crass commercials. Steve Jobs is a job. Someone should pick up that egocentric terd and drop him on the border between Israel & Lebanon (if you could find it today) with a Star of David on the front of his t-shirt and a swastika. Did you follow me this time? -- modified at 12:55 Monday 24th July, 2006

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    • realJSOPR realJSOP

      Our ideas will merge

      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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      "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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      leppie
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      Or diverge (not sure about that one ;P )

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      • realJSOPR realJSOP

        Our ideas will merge

        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
        -----
        "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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        Paul Watson
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        And become a splurge.

        regards, Paul Watson Ireland FeedHenry needs you

        Shog9 wrote:

        eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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        • C Chris Losinger

          Microsoft + MTV ? it'll start out as being 'all about the music'. after two years it'll be all game shows about music. in another year, it'll be all game shows and celebrity gossip.

          Let's execute on the customer-facing market-driven swim-lane paradigm!

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          Paul Watson
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          And then it'll become a reality show about a music show about game shows about music. -- modified at 13:03 Monday 24th July, 2006

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          • E ePug

            I guess my point was lost on you. I wasn't going after anything specific other than I hate Macs, especially their crass commercials. Steve Jobs is a job. Someone should pick up that egocentric terd and drop him on the border between Israel & Lebanon (if you could find it today) with a Star of David on the front of his t-shirt and a swastika. Did you follow me this time? -- modified at 12:55 Monday 24th July, 2006

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            Chris Losinger
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            ePug wrote:

            I guess my point was lost on you

            it wasn't. but you didn't do a very good job of backing it up.

            Let's execute on the customer-facing market-driven swim-lane paradigm!

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            • E Ed Poore

              How easy was it to get inside the mp3 player?  Surely you could've (or someone you knew) soldered the socket back on (unless it ripped the board apart).  But then again I've been taught and picked up skills from my father who can repair absolutely anything (or if it's beyond repair, design a better one) :)


              As of how to accomplish this I wouldn't have a clue at the moment and I'm too lazy to google it

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              Gavin Roberts
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              To be honest, I'm not sure why I didn't do that, at first I thought ah i'll loose my warranty or I'll completely break it, but since taking the hdd out, what difference would it of made. It was basically a small pcb with a laptop hdd connection on the end, undo 4 screws and it came out. My dad is the same, but with his age, his hands aint as good as they used to be. Gav

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              • C Chris Meech

                Chris Maunder wrote:

                Can Zune kill the iPod?[^]

                This sounds like a good title for a new song. Kinda like Video Killed The Radio Star. :) Somebody pass me the hair gel, will ya. :)

                Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] When no one was looking, every single American woman between the ages of 18 and 32 went out and got a tatoo just above their rumpus. [link[^]]

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                Dan Neely
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                Chris Meech wrote:

                This sounds like a good title for a new song. Kinda like Video Killed The Radio Star.

                Bah. Get the updated version. Internet killed the video star. :)

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                • C Chris Maunder

                  Can Zune kill the iPod?[^] Whoever is in charge of naming Microsoft products needs to get their 3rd Formal Letter of Warning and then be sacked.

                  cheers, Chris Maunder

                  CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                  X Cyclop
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                  Of course. Microsoft has power, money, tools and everything for killing the iPod.:)

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                  • G Gavin Roberts

                    To be honest, I'm not sure why I didn't do that, at first I thought ah i'll loose my warranty or I'll completely break it, but since taking the hdd out, what difference would it of made. It was basically a small pcb with a laptop hdd connection on the end, undo 4 screws and it came out. My dad is the same, but with his age, his hands aint as good as they used to be. Gav

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                    Ed Poore
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                    Gavin Roberts wrote:

                    what difference would it of made.

                    You wouldn't have a small portable drive for that all-important dev-work we people do.

                    Gavin Roberts wrote:

                    It was basically a small pcb with a laptop hdd connection on the end, undo 4 screws and it came out.

                    Sounds simple

                    Gavin Roberts wrote:

                    My dad is the same, but with his age, his hands aint as good as they used to be.

                    Well, Dad's coming up to 54 and still soldering component that he can't see clearly unless they're under the microscope.  One of his main chips that he uses is 1cm² and has about 100 "feet" all around it, so that's 25/cm and he has to solder this stuff :omg:


                    As of how to accomplish this I wouldn't have a clue at the moment and I'm too lazy to google it

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                    • P Paul Watson

                      And become a splurge.

                      regards, Paul Watson Ireland FeedHenry needs you

                      Shog9 wrote:

                      eh, stop bugging me about it, give it a couple of days, see what happens.

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                      Chris Meech
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                      And now, start the scourge.

                      Chris Meech I am Canadian. [heard in a local bar] When no one was looking, every single American woman between the ages of 18 and 32 went out and got a tatoo just above their rumpus. [link[^]]

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                      • E Ennis Ray Lynch Jr

                        It probably runs on linux.

                        A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the Universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." -- Stephen Crane

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                        David Crow
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                        Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

                        It probably runs on linux.

                        Are you referring to Linux's ability to run on an iPod?


                        "Money talks. When my money starts to talk, I get a bill to shut it up." - Frank

                        "Judge not by the eye but by the heart." - Native American Proverb

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                          Ennis Ray Lynch, Jr. wrote:

                          It probably runs on linux.

                          Are you referring to Linux's ability to run on an iPod?


                          "Money talks. When my money starts to talk, I get a bill to shut it up." - Frank

                          "Judge not by the eye but by the heart." - Native American Proverb

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                          Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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                          Just the bittersweet irony of one of Microsoft's products using Linux rather than some variant of windows ill suited for the task.

                          A man said to the universe: "Sir I exist!" "However," replied the Universe, "The fact has not created in me A sense of obligation." -- Stephen Crane

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                          • E ePug

                            I guess my point was lost on you. I wasn't going after anything specific other than I hate Macs, especially their crass commercials. Steve Jobs is a job. Someone should pick up that egocentric terd and drop him on the border between Israel & Lebanon (if you could find it today) with a Star of David on the front of his t-shirt and a swastika. Did you follow me this time? -- modified at 12:55 Monday 24th July, 2006

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                            RoswellNX
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                            ePug wrote:

                            I wasn't going after anything specific other than I hate Macs, especially their crass commercials. Steve Jobs is a job. Someone should pick up that egocentric terd and drop him on the border between Israel & Lebanon (if you could find it today) with a Star of David on the front of his t-shirt and a swastika.

                            I'm not fond of their new commecrials either, but what is actually wrong with you? Rather than plotting killings go see a shrink... Apple is about choice, so you have a CHOICE between them [Apple], and a generic PC such as a DELL or HP, or you can build your own where you pick your own chip, motherboard, video card, etc. and have it run linux... *Bursts into song* "Freedom of Choice" by DEVO, to irritate you further* Roswell;P

                            "Angelinos -- excuse me. There will be civility today."
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                            City Mayor, Los Angeles, CA

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                            • C Chris Losinger

                              Zune Schmune. that classic "what if MS sold the iPod" short is all you need to know about the Zune. when is Microsoft going to do something that isn't a copy of what Apple released three years before ? i know, why doesn't MS just buy Apple and turn it into their R&D department!

                              Let's execute on the customer-facing market-driven swim-lane paradigm!

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                              Jeremy Falcon
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                              Chris Losinger wrote:

                              when is Microsoft going to do something that isn't a copy of what Apple released three years before ? i know, why doesn't MS just buy Apple and turn it into their R&D department!

                              :laugh:

                              Jeremy Falcon

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                              • C Chris Maunder

                                Can Zune kill the iPod?[^] Whoever is in charge of naming Microsoft products needs to get their 3rd Formal Letter of Warning and then be sacked.

                                cheers, Chris Maunder

                                CodeProject.com : C++ MVP

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                                Jeremy Falcon
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                                Chris Maunder wrote:

                                Whoever is in charge of naming Microsoft products needs to get their 3rd Formal Letter of Warning and then be sacked.

                                :wtf: It's sad to think at first MS wanted to call Windows "Interface Manager." How catchy is that?

                                Jeremy Falcon

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                                • C Chris Losinger

                                  ePug wrote:

                                  I guess my point was lost on you

                                  it wasn't. but you didn't do a very good job of backing it up.

                                  Let's execute on the customer-facing market-driven swim-lane paradigm!

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                                  ePug
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                                  I'll give you a hint....there was no point! I have to back up making fun of the Mac commercials?

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                                    ePug wrote:

                                    I wasn't going after anything specific other than I hate Macs, especially their crass commercials. Steve Jobs is a job. Someone should pick up that egocentric terd and drop him on the border between Israel & Lebanon (if you could find it today) with a Star of David on the front of his t-shirt and a swastika.

                                    I'm not fond of their new commecrials either, but what is actually wrong with you? Rather than plotting killings go see a shrink... Apple is about choice, so you have a CHOICE between them [Apple], and a generic PC such as a DELL or HP, or you can build your own where you pick your own chip, motherboard, video card, etc. and have it run linux... *Bursts into song* "Freedom of Choice" by DEVO, to irritate you further* Roswell;P

                                    "Angelinos -- excuse me. There will be civility today."
                                    Antonio VillaRaigosa
                                    City Mayor, Los Angeles, CA

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                                    ePug
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                                    So I can't exaggerate or use hyperbole without being told I need a psychiatrist? And what's wrong with the one I am seeing. He's not going to like your comment. Well, Mac seems to make it seem like there isn't any choice. Unless of course you are someone who only does spreadsheets. I've worked on both systems and you couldn't pay me to work on a Mac again, especially since I am a Web Developer. What ever happened to Lasso, what a great server application that was. :zzz:

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                                    • E ePug

                                      I'll give you a hint....there was no point! I have to back up making fun of the Mac commercials?

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                                      Chris Losinger
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                                      if there was no point, why are you getting so defensive about it?

                                      Let's execute on the customer-facing market-driven swim-lane paradigm!

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                                      • R RoswellNX

                                        ePug wrote:

                                        I wasn't going after anything specific other than I hate Macs, especially their crass commercials. Steve Jobs is a job. Someone should pick up that egocentric terd and drop him on the border between Israel & Lebanon (if you could find it today) with a Star of David on the front of his t-shirt and a swastika.

                                        I'm not fond of their new commecrials either, but what is actually wrong with you? Rather than plotting killings go see a shrink... Apple is about choice, so you have a CHOICE between them [Apple], and a generic PC such as a DELL or HP, or you can build your own where you pick your own chip, motherboard, video card, etc. and have it run linux... *Bursts into song* "Freedom of Choice" by DEVO, to irritate you further* Roswell;P

                                        "Angelinos -- excuse me. There will be civility today."
                                        Antonio VillaRaigosa
                                        City Mayor, Los Angeles, CA

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                                        Mike Poz
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                                        RoswellNX wrote:

                                        Apple is about choice

                                        Now *THAT* is funny. Apple is about choice: You can only run their OS on their hardware. You can only buy music from their store, using their software. you can only play their music on their software or their hardware. You can only burn CDs of music from their store using their software. Yeah, that's choice. Can't say much about Zune, not enough info available, but other MS encrypted music offerings and device offerings are: You can pick any service except iTunes. You can pick any device that supports WMA with DRM. There are a variety of software products available to play those protected WMA tracks and burn those tracks to CD. Some services offer a "you don't have to buy the content if you don't want to burn it, you can rent it instead, so that you always have the latest available music tracks. Although you can buy tracks for the same price or less as you would pay at iTunes." Yeah, choice. In this particular case, it's Microsoft that made choice a possibility, not Apple.

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                                          RoswellNX wrote:

                                          Apple is about choice

                                          Now *THAT* is funny. Apple is about choice: You can only run their OS on their hardware. You can only buy music from their store, using their software. you can only play their music on their software or their hardware. You can only burn CDs of music from their store using their software. Yeah, that's choice. Can't say much about Zune, not enough info available, but other MS encrypted music offerings and device offerings are: You can pick any service except iTunes. You can pick any device that supports WMA with DRM. There are a variety of software products available to play those protected WMA tracks and burn those tracks to CD. Some services offer a "you don't have to buy the content if you don't want to burn it, you can rent it instead, so that you always have the latest available music tracks. Although you can buy tracks for the same price or less as you would pay at iTunes." Yeah, choice. In this particular case, it's Microsoft that made choice a possibility, not Apple.

                                          Mike Poz

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                                          Dan Neely
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                                          You've just listed half the reasons my mp3 player isn't an ipod. The other was that my $150 would get 4 gigs of sandisk cheap model vs 1gig of ipod nano. The 4gig nano was $240. The 1gig nano was $150. Granted the nano had more toys, but all useless ones IMO. Looking at photos on a screen smaller than a digicam's just stupid, and as far as showing album art while playing goes, it's in my pocket so why bother.

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