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  • J Judah Gabriel Himango

    Provided I've understood the question correctly, I think I've solved it. I kind of cheated though; I wrote a C# program that solves this:

            int start = 1;
            int divisor = 10;
            while (divisor >= 2)
            {
                if (start % divisor == divisor - 1)
                {
                    divisor--;
                }
                else
                {
                    start++;
                    divisor = 10;
                }
            }
    

    Soon as that loop exits, you've got your number, which happens to be 2519.

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    Judah Himango wrote:

    I kind of cheated.

    He did say "find a number" :) So there are more than one of these. I wonder if its some kind of series...

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      Judah Himango wrote:

      I kind of cheated.

      He did say "find a number" :) So there are more than one of these. I wonder if its some kind of series...

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      yeah yeah :) Hey, I worked for it at least. :) *edit* oooh, misunderstood you there leppie. I though you were chiding me for solving it with code rather than brain. :) Yes, there are other numbers, it appears every 2520 iteration matches the criteria.

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      • J Judah Gabriel Himango

        Provided I've understood the question correctly, I think I've solved it. I kind of cheated though; I wrote a C# program that solves this:

                int start = 1;
                int divisor = 10;
                while (divisor >= 2)
                {
                    if (start % divisor == divisor - 1)
                    {
                        divisor--;
                    }
                    else
                    {
                        start++;
                        divisor = 10;
                    }
                }
        

        Soon as that loop exits, you've got your number, which happens to be 2519.

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        Raj Lal
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        Judah Himango wrote:

        I kind of cheated though

        well thats ok , and of course there are more numbers but the fun is when you deduce how to do it It's the journey, not the destination

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          Judah Himango wrote:

          I kind of cheated.

          He did say "find a number" :) So there are more than one of these. I wonder if its some kind of series...

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          yes thats true there are many , but if you think it might take a day to get the solution , without any computer help, but its worth

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          • J Judah Gabriel Himango

            yeah yeah :) Hey, I worked for it at least. :) *edit* oooh, misunderstood you there leppie. I though you were chiding me for solving it with code rather than brain. :) Yes, there are other numbers, it appears every 2520 iteration matches the criteria.

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            Paul Conrad
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            There was a question of if there were more number, yes, there are. Here is a modification of your code that shows others :)

            #include using namespace std;

            int main()
            {
            int start = 1;
            int divisor = 10;
            while ( start <1000000 ) // Or whatevery you want in signed 32-bit range
            {
            while (divisor >= 2)
            {
            if (start % divisor == divisor - 1)
            {
            divisor--;
            }
            else
            {
            start++;
            divisor = 10;
            }
            }

                cout<
            
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            • L leppie

              Judah Himango wrote:

              I kind of cheated.

              He did say "find a number" :) So there are more than one of these. I wonder if its some kind of series...

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              Judah Gabriel Himango
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              leppie wrote:

              I wonder if its some kind of series...

              It appears to be every 2520.

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                Judah Himango wrote:

                I kind of cheated.

                He did say "find a number" :) So there are more than one of these. I wonder if its some kind of series...

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                Paul Conrad
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                leppie wrote:

                So there are more than one of these. I wonder if its some kind of series...

                Take a look at the modification of Judah's code that I posted. Your number is one of the numbers that come up :)


                I'd like to help but I am too lazy to Google it for you.

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                • R Raj Lal

                  Judah Himango wrote:

                  I kind of cheated though

                  well thats ok , and of course there are more numbers but the fun is when you deduce how to do it It's the journey, not the destination

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                  Judah Gabriel Himango
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                  Quartz... wrote:

                  It's the journey, not the destination

                  Very true. I actually had fun writing a little piece of code to solve it, though, so it was the journey even still. :) I added some more code that added each match to a list box on a Windows Form. Then, after seeing how it froze up the UI, I did it on a background thread. Still, the UI thread would get flooded with matches, almost preventing it from painting, so I further chagned the code to only update during app idle. Voila, cool little WinForms program that solves it. :cool:

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                  • J Judah Gabriel Himango

                    leppie wrote:

                    I wonder if its some kind of series...

                    It appears to be every 2520.

                    Tech, life, family, faith: Give me a visit. I'm currently blogging about: Messianic Instrumentals (with audio) The apostle Paul, modernly speaking: Epistles of Paul Judah Himango

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                    Judah Himango wrote:

                    It appears to be every 2520.

                    It is. Modifying the your code that I modified and posted, shows this to be true :)


                    I'd like to help but I am too lazy to Google it for you.

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                    • J Judah Gabriel Himango

                      Quartz... wrote:

                      It's the journey, not the destination

                      Very true. I actually had fun writing a little piece of code to solve it, though, so it was the journey even still. :) I added some more code that added each match to a list box on a Windows Form. Then, after seeing how it froze up the UI, I did it on a background thread. Still, the UI thread would get flooded with matches, almost preventing it from painting, so I further chagned the code to only update during app idle. Voila, cool little WinForms program that solves it. :cool:

                      Tech, life, family, faith: Give me a visit. I'm currently blogging about: Messianic Instrumentals (with audio) The apostle Paul, modernly speaking: Epistles of Paul Judah Himango

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                      Paul Conrad
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                      Judah Himango wrote:

                      Voila, cool little WinForms program that solves it. :cool:

                      That's cool. Mine is just a plain boring console app :->


                      I'd like to help but I am too lazy to Google it for you.

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                      • R Raj Lal

                        Ok lets me be the first to ask a maths question Find a number which 1. divided by 10 gives a remainder 9 2. divided by 9 gives remainder 8 --- --- so on till divided by 2 gives a remainder 1 Any one ?

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                        Jon Sagara
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                        N(1) = 2519 N(2) = 2519 + 2520 = 5039 N(3) = 2519 + 2520 + 2520 = 7559 N(4) = 2519 + 2520 + 2520 + 2520 = 10079 ... N(n) = 2519 + (n - 1)*(2520) No idea what the heck it means, though. Care to enlighten us mathematically-challenged folks?

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                        • J Jon Sagara

                          N(1) = 2519 N(2) = 2519 + 2520 = 5039 N(3) = 2519 + 2520 + 2520 = 7559 N(4) = 2519 + 2520 + 2520 + 2520 = 10079 ... N(n) = 2519 + (n - 1)*(2520) No idea what the heck it means, though. Care to enlighten us mathematically-challenged folks?

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                          Jon Sagara wrote:

                          N(n) = 2519 + (n - 1)*(2520)

                          N(n) = (n * 2520) - 1 = 2520n - 1

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                          • J Jon Sagara

                            N(1) = 2519 N(2) = 2519 + 2520 = 5039 N(3) = 2519 + 2520 + 2520 = 7559 N(4) = 2519 + 2520 + 2520 + 2520 = 10079 ... N(n) = 2519 + (n - 1)*(2520) No idea what the heck it means, though. Care to enlighten us mathematically-challenged folks?

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                            Some other interesting and useless observations:

                            1*2*3*4*5*6*7*8*9 is divisible by 2520 = 144
                            2520 is divisible by 2 * 3 * 5 * 7 = 12 (product of prime 1 - 9)
                            4 * 6 * 8 * 9 is divisible by 144 = 12 (product of 'non' prime 1 - 9)

                            :doh:

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                            • R Raj Lal

                              Ok lets me be the first to ask a maths question Find a number which 1. divided by 10 gives a remainder 9 2. divided by 9 gives remainder 8 --- --- so on till divided by 2 gives a remainder 1 Any one ?

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                              10! - 1 = 3628799. Its 1 less than a multiple of 1, 2, 3 ... 10.

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                                10! - 1 = 3628799. Its 1 less than a multiple of 1, 2, 3 ... 10.

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                                ((3628799 + 1) / 10) / (2 * 3 * 4 * 6) + (9 - 7 + 8 - 10) + 1 = 2519. ;)

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                                • R Raj Lal

                                  Ok lets me be the first to ask a maths question Find a number which 1. divided by 10 gives a remainder 9 2. divided by 9 gives remainder 8 --- --- so on till divided by 2 gives a remainder 1 Any one ?

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                                  Bassam Abdul Baki
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                                  x = (i - 1) (mod i), 2 ≤ i ≤ 10. Thus, x = LCM(2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10) * k + LCM(2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10) - 1 LCM(2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10) = LCM(5, 7, 8, 9) = 23.32.5.7 = 2520. Thus, x = 2520k + 2519. min(x) = 2519. I had to redo it since I did it backwards.


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                                  • R Raj Lal

                                    Ok lets me be the first to ask a maths question Find a number which 1. divided by 10 gives a remainder 9 2. divided by 9 gives remainder 8 --- --- so on till divided by 2 gives a remainder 1 Any one ?

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                                    I know I'm a little late (and a valid solution has already been given), but no real explanation has been made. You first need to find a number that is a multiple of all these multiples (10 * 9, 9 * 8, etc), then one less than that will give the proper remainders. So, to find the least common multiple, first break these into primes: 10 * 9 = 2 * 3 * 3 * 5, 9 * 8 = 2 * 2 * 2 * 3 * 3, 8 * 7 = 2 * 2 * 2 * 7, etc. Take out what is unique for each to get 2 * 2 * 2 * 3 * 3 * 5 * 7 = 2520. So, one answer (though you already know) to the original problem is 2519.

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                                    • J Jon Sagara

                                      N(1) = 2519 N(2) = 2519 + 2520 = 5039 N(3) = 2519 + 2520 + 2520 = 7559 N(4) = 2519 + 2520 + 2520 + 2520 = 10079 ... N(n) = 2519 + (n - 1)*(2520) No idea what the heck it means, though. Care to enlighten us mathematically-challenged folks?

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                                      its the LCM of all the numbers (2520) - 1

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                                      • K Kacee Giger

                                        I know I'm a little late (and a valid solution has already been given), but no real explanation has been made. You first need to find a number that is a multiple of all these multiples (10 * 9, 9 * 8, etc), then one less than that will give the proper remainders. So, to find the least common multiple, first break these into primes: 10 * 9 = 2 * 3 * 3 * 5, 9 * 8 = 2 * 2 * 2 * 3 * 3, 8 * 7 = 2 * 2 * 2 * 7, etc. Take out what is unique for each to get 2 * 2 * 2 * 3 * 3 * 5 * 7 = 2520. So, one answer (though you already know) to the original problem is 2519.

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                                        thanks: https://movied.org

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                                        • B Bassam Abdul Baki

                                          x = (i - 1) (mod i), 2 ≤ i ≤ 10. Thus, x = LCM(2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10) * k + LCM(2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10) - 1 LCM(2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10) = LCM(5, 7, 8, 9) = 23.32.5.7 = 2520. Thus, x = 2520k + 2519. min(x) = 2519. I had to redo it since I did it backwards.


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