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  • J Judah Gabriel Himango

    yeah yeah :) Hey, I worked for it at least. :) *edit* oooh, misunderstood you there leppie. I though you were chiding me for solving it with code rather than brain. :) Yes, there are other numbers, it appears every 2520 iteration matches the criteria.

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    There was a question of if there were more number, yes, there are. Here is a modification of your code that shows others :)

    #include using namespace std;

    int main()
    {
    int start = 1;
    int divisor = 10;
    while ( start <1000000 ) // Or whatevery you want in signed 32-bit range
    {
    while (divisor >= 2)
    {
    if (start % divisor == divisor - 1)
    {
    divisor--;
    }
    else
    {
    start++;
    divisor = 10;
    }
    }

        cout<
    
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      Judah Himango wrote:

      I kind of cheated.

      He did say "find a number" :) So there are more than one of these. I wonder if its some kind of series...

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      Judah Gabriel Himango
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      leppie wrote:

      I wonder if its some kind of series...

      It appears to be every 2520.

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        Judah Himango wrote:

        I kind of cheated.

        He did say "find a number" :) So there are more than one of these. I wonder if its some kind of series...

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        leppie wrote:

        So there are more than one of these. I wonder if its some kind of series...

        Take a look at the modification of Judah's code that I posted. Your number is one of the numbers that come up :)


        I'd like to help but I am too lazy to Google it for you.

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        • R Raj Lal

          Judah Himango wrote:

          I kind of cheated though

          well thats ok , and of course there are more numbers but the fun is when you deduce how to do it It's the journey, not the destination

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          Judah Gabriel Himango
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          Quartz... wrote:

          It's the journey, not the destination

          Very true. I actually had fun writing a little piece of code to solve it, though, so it was the journey even still. :) I added some more code that added each match to a list box on a Windows Form. Then, after seeing how it froze up the UI, I did it on a background thread. Still, the UI thread would get flooded with matches, almost preventing it from painting, so I further chagned the code to only update during app idle. Voila, cool little WinForms program that solves it. :cool:

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          • J Judah Gabriel Himango

            leppie wrote:

            I wonder if its some kind of series...

            It appears to be every 2520.

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            Judah Himango wrote:

            It appears to be every 2520.

            It is. Modifying the your code that I modified and posted, shows this to be true :)


            I'd like to help but I am too lazy to Google it for you.

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            • J Judah Gabriel Himango

              Quartz... wrote:

              It's the journey, not the destination

              Very true. I actually had fun writing a little piece of code to solve it, though, so it was the journey even still. :) I added some more code that added each match to a list box on a Windows Form. Then, after seeing how it froze up the UI, I did it on a background thread. Still, the UI thread would get flooded with matches, almost preventing it from painting, so I further chagned the code to only update during app idle. Voila, cool little WinForms program that solves it. :cool:

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              Judah Himango wrote:

              Voila, cool little WinForms program that solves it. :cool:

              That's cool. Mine is just a plain boring console app :->


              I'd like to help but I am too lazy to Google it for you.

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              • R Raj Lal

                Ok lets me be the first to ask a maths question Find a number which 1. divided by 10 gives a remainder 9 2. divided by 9 gives remainder 8 --- --- so on till divided by 2 gives a remainder 1 Any one ?

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                Jon Sagara
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                N(1) = 2519 N(2) = 2519 + 2520 = 5039 N(3) = 2519 + 2520 + 2520 = 7559 N(4) = 2519 + 2520 + 2520 + 2520 = 10079 ... N(n) = 2519 + (n - 1)*(2520) No idea what the heck it means, though. Care to enlighten us mathematically-challenged folks?

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                • J Jon Sagara

                  N(1) = 2519 N(2) = 2519 + 2520 = 5039 N(3) = 2519 + 2520 + 2520 = 7559 N(4) = 2519 + 2520 + 2520 + 2520 = 10079 ... N(n) = 2519 + (n - 1)*(2520) No idea what the heck it means, though. Care to enlighten us mathematically-challenged folks?

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                  Jon Sagara wrote:

                  N(n) = 2519 + (n - 1)*(2520)

                  N(n) = (n * 2520) - 1 = 2520n - 1

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                  • J Jon Sagara

                    N(1) = 2519 N(2) = 2519 + 2520 = 5039 N(3) = 2519 + 2520 + 2520 = 7559 N(4) = 2519 + 2520 + 2520 + 2520 = 10079 ... N(n) = 2519 + (n - 1)*(2520) No idea what the heck it means, though. Care to enlighten us mathematically-challenged folks?

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                    Some other interesting and useless observations:

                    1*2*3*4*5*6*7*8*9 is divisible by 2520 = 144
                    2520 is divisible by 2 * 3 * 5 * 7 = 12 (product of prime 1 - 9)
                    4 * 6 * 8 * 9 is divisible by 144 = 12 (product of 'non' prime 1 - 9)

                    :doh:

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                    • R Raj Lal

                      Ok lets me be the first to ask a maths question Find a number which 1. divided by 10 gives a remainder 9 2. divided by 9 gives remainder 8 --- --- so on till divided by 2 gives a remainder 1 Any one ?

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                      10! - 1 = 3628799. Its 1 less than a multiple of 1, 2, 3 ... 10.

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                        10! - 1 = 3628799. Its 1 less than a multiple of 1, 2, 3 ... 10.

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                        ((3628799 + 1) / 10) / (2 * 3 * 4 * 6) + (9 - 7 + 8 - 10) + 1 = 2519. ;)

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                        • R Raj Lal

                          Ok lets me be the first to ask a maths question Find a number which 1. divided by 10 gives a remainder 9 2. divided by 9 gives remainder 8 --- --- so on till divided by 2 gives a remainder 1 Any one ?

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                          x = (i - 1) (mod i), 2 ≤ i ≤ 10. Thus, x = LCM(2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10) * k + LCM(2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10) - 1 LCM(2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10) = LCM(5, 7, 8, 9) = 23.32.5.7 = 2520. Thus, x = 2520k + 2519. min(x) = 2519. I had to redo it since I did it backwards.


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                            Ok lets me be the first to ask a maths question Find a number which 1. divided by 10 gives a remainder 9 2. divided by 9 gives remainder 8 --- --- so on till divided by 2 gives a remainder 1 Any one ?

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                            I know I'm a little late (and a valid solution has already been given), but no real explanation has been made. You first need to find a number that is a multiple of all these multiples (10 * 9, 9 * 8, etc), then one less than that will give the proper remainders. So, to find the least common multiple, first break these into primes: 10 * 9 = 2 * 3 * 3 * 5, 9 * 8 = 2 * 2 * 2 * 3 * 3, 8 * 7 = 2 * 2 * 2 * 7, etc. Take out what is unique for each to get 2 * 2 * 2 * 3 * 3 * 5 * 7 = 2520. So, one answer (though you already know) to the original problem is 2519.

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                              N(1) = 2519 N(2) = 2519 + 2520 = 5039 N(3) = 2519 + 2520 + 2520 = 7559 N(4) = 2519 + 2520 + 2520 + 2520 = 10079 ... N(n) = 2519 + (n - 1)*(2520) No idea what the heck it means, though. Care to enlighten us mathematically-challenged folks?

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                              its the LCM of all the numbers (2520) - 1

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                              • K Kacee Giger

                                I know I'm a little late (and a valid solution has already been given), but no real explanation has been made. You first need to find a number that is a multiple of all these multiples (10 * 9, 9 * 8, etc), then one less than that will give the proper remainders. So, to find the least common multiple, first break these into primes: 10 * 9 = 2 * 3 * 3 * 5, 9 * 8 = 2 * 2 * 2 * 3 * 3, 8 * 7 = 2 * 2 * 2 * 7, etc. Take out what is unique for each to get 2 * 2 * 2 * 3 * 3 * 5 * 7 = 2520. So, one answer (though you already know) to the original problem is 2519.

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                                • B Bassam Abdul Baki

                                  x = (i - 1) (mod i), 2 ≤ i ≤ 10. Thus, x = LCM(2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10) * k + LCM(2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10) - 1 LCM(2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10) = LCM(5, 7, 8, 9) = 23.32.5.7 = 2520. Thus, x = 2520k + 2519. min(x) = 2519. I had to redo it since I did it backwards.


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                                    ((3628799 + 1) / 10) / (2 * 3 * 4 * 6) + (9 - 7 + 8 - 10) + 1 = 2519. ;)

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                                      10! - 1 = 3628799. Its 1 less than a multiple of 1, 2, 3 ... 10.

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                                        its the LCM of all the numbers (2520) - 1

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                                          Some other interesting and useless observations:

                                          1*2*3*4*5*6*7*8*9 is divisible by 2520 = 144
                                          2520 is divisible by 2 * 3 * 5 * 7 = 12 (product of prime 1 - 9)
                                          4 * 6 * 8 * 9 is divisible by 144 = 12 (product of 'non' prime 1 - 9)

                                          :doh:

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