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  • L leppie

    Judah Himango wrote:

    I kind of cheated.

    He did say "find a number" :) So there are more than one of these. I wonder if its some kind of series...

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    Judah Gabriel Himango
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    leppie wrote:

    I wonder if its some kind of series...

    It appears to be every 2520.

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    • L leppie

      Judah Himango wrote:

      I kind of cheated.

      He did say "find a number" :) So there are more than one of these. I wonder if its some kind of series...

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      leppie wrote:

      So there are more than one of these. I wonder if its some kind of series...

      Take a look at the modification of Judah's code that I posted. Your number is one of the numbers that come up :)


      I'd like to help but I am too lazy to Google it for you.

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      • R Raj Lal

        Judah Himango wrote:

        I kind of cheated though

        well thats ok , and of course there are more numbers but the fun is when you deduce how to do it It's the journey, not the destination

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        Judah Gabriel Himango
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        Quartz... wrote:

        It's the journey, not the destination

        Very true. I actually had fun writing a little piece of code to solve it, though, so it was the journey even still. :) I added some more code that added each match to a list box on a Windows Form. Then, after seeing how it froze up the UI, I did it on a background thread. Still, the UI thread would get flooded with matches, almost preventing it from painting, so I further chagned the code to only update during app idle. Voila, cool little WinForms program that solves it. :cool:

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        • J Judah Gabriel Himango

          leppie wrote:

          I wonder if its some kind of series...

          It appears to be every 2520.

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          Paul Conrad
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          Judah Himango wrote:

          It appears to be every 2520.

          It is. Modifying the your code that I modified and posted, shows this to be true :)


          I'd like to help but I am too lazy to Google it for you.

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          • J Judah Gabriel Himango

            Quartz... wrote:

            It's the journey, not the destination

            Very true. I actually had fun writing a little piece of code to solve it, though, so it was the journey even still. :) I added some more code that added each match to a list box on a Windows Form. Then, after seeing how it froze up the UI, I did it on a background thread. Still, the UI thread would get flooded with matches, almost preventing it from painting, so I further chagned the code to only update during app idle. Voila, cool little WinForms program that solves it. :cool:

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            Paul Conrad
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            Judah Himango wrote:

            Voila, cool little WinForms program that solves it. :cool:

            That's cool. Mine is just a plain boring console app :->


            I'd like to help but I am too lazy to Google it for you.

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            • R Raj Lal

              Ok lets me be the first to ask a maths question Find a number which 1. divided by 10 gives a remainder 9 2. divided by 9 gives remainder 8 --- --- so on till divided by 2 gives a remainder 1 Any one ?

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              N(1) = 2519 N(2) = 2519 + 2520 = 5039 N(3) = 2519 + 2520 + 2520 = 7559 N(4) = 2519 + 2520 + 2520 + 2520 = 10079 ... N(n) = 2519 + (n - 1)*(2520) No idea what the heck it means, though. Care to enlighten us mathematically-challenged folks?

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                N(1) = 2519 N(2) = 2519 + 2520 = 5039 N(3) = 2519 + 2520 + 2520 = 7559 N(4) = 2519 + 2520 + 2520 + 2520 = 10079 ... N(n) = 2519 + (n - 1)*(2520) No idea what the heck it means, though. Care to enlighten us mathematically-challenged folks?

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                Jon Sagara wrote:

                N(n) = 2519 + (n - 1)*(2520)

                N(n) = (n * 2520) - 1 = 2520n - 1

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                • J Jon Sagara

                  N(1) = 2519 N(2) = 2519 + 2520 = 5039 N(3) = 2519 + 2520 + 2520 = 7559 N(4) = 2519 + 2520 + 2520 + 2520 = 10079 ... N(n) = 2519 + (n - 1)*(2520) No idea what the heck it means, though. Care to enlighten us mathematically-challenged folks?

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                  Some other interesting and useless observations:

                  1*2*3*4*5*6*7*8*9 is divisible by 2520 = 144
                  2520 is divisible by 2 * 3 * 5 * 7 = 12 (product of prime 1 - 9)
                  4 * 6 * 8 * 9 is divisible by 144 = 12 (product of 'non' prime 1 - 9)

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                  • R Raj Lal

                    Ok lets me be the first to ask a maths question Find a number which 1. divided by 10 gives a remainder 9 2. divided by 9 gives remainder 8 --- --- so on till divided by 2 gives a remainder 1 Any one ?

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                    10! - 1 = 3628799. Its 1 less than a multiple of 1, 2, 3 ... 10.

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                      10! - 1 = 3628799. Its 1 less than a multiple of 1, 2, 3 ... 10.

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                      ((3628799 + 1) / 10) / (2 * 3 * 4 * 6) + (9 - 7 + 8 - 10) + 1 = 2519. ;)

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                      • R Raj Lal

                        Ok lets me be the first to ask a maths question Find a number which 1. divided by 10 gives a remainder 9 2. divided by 9 gives remainder 8 --- --- so on till divided by 2 gives a remainder 1 Any one ?

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                        x = (i - 1) (mod i), 2 ≤ i ≤ 10. Thus, x = LCM(2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10) * k + LCM(2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10) - 1 LCM(2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10) = LCM(5, 7, 8, 9) = 23.32.5.7 = 2520. Thus, x = 2520k + 2519. min(x) = 2519. I had to redo it since I did it backwards.


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                        • R Raj Lal

                          Ok lets me be the first to ask a maths question Find a number which 1. divided by 10 gives a remainder 9 2. divided by 9 gives remainder 8 --- --- so on till divided by 2 gives a remainder 1 Any one ?

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                          I know I'm a little late (and a valid solution has already been given), but no real explanation has been made. You first need to find a number that is a multiple of all these multiples (10 * 9, 9 * 8, etc), then one less than that will give the proper remainders. So, to find the least common multiple, first break these into primes: 10 * 9 = 2 * 3 * 3 * 5, 9 * 8 = 2 * 2 * 2 * 3 * 3, 8 * 7 = 2 * 2 * 2 * 7, etc. Take out what is unique for each to get 2 * 2 * 2 * 3 * 3 * 5 * 7 = 2520. So, one answer (though you already know) to the original problem is 2519.

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                          • J Jon Sagara

                            N(1) = 2519 N(2) = 2519 + 2520 = 5039 N(3) = 2519 + 2520 + 2520 = 7559 N(4) = 2519 + 2520 + 2520 + 2520 = 10079 ... N(n) = 2519 + (n - 1)*(2520) No idea what the heck it means, though. Care to enlighten us mathematically-challenged folks?

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                            its the LCM of all the numbers (2520) - 1

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                              I know I'm a little late (and a valid solution has already been given), but no real explanation has been made. You first need to find a number that is a multiple of all these multiples (10 * 9, 9 * 8, etc), then one less than that will give the proper remainders. So, to find the least common multiple, first break these into primes: 10 * 9 = 2 * 3 * 3 * 5, 9 * 8 = 2 * 2 * 2 * 3 * 3, 8 * 7 = 2 * 2 * 2 * 7, etc. Take out what is unique for each to get 2 * 2 * 2 * 3 * 3 * 5 * 7 = 2520. So, one answer (though you already know) to the original problem is 2519.

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                                x = (i - 1) (mod i), 2 ≤ i ≤ 10. Thus, x = LCM(2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10) * k + LCM(2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10) - 1 LCM(2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10) = LCM(5, 7, 8, 9) = 23.32.5.7 = 2520. Thus, x = 2520k + 2519. min(x) = 2519. I had to redo it since I did it backwards.


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                                  ((3628799 + 1) / 10) / (2 * 3 * 4 * 6) + (9 - 7 + 8 - 10) + 1 = 2519. ;)

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                                    10! - 1 = 3628799. Its 1 less than a multiple of 1, 2, 3 ... 10.

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                                    • R Raj Lal

                                      its the LCM of all the numbers (2520) - 1

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                                      • L leppie

                                        Some other interesting and useless observations:

                                        1*2*3*4*5*6*7*8*9 is divisible by 2520 = 144
                                        2520 is divisible by 2 * 3 * 5 * 7 = 12 (product of prime 1 - 9)
                                        4 * 6 * 8 * 9 is divisible by 144 = 12 (product of 'non' prime 1 - 9)

                                        :doh:

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                                        • L leppie

                                          Jon Sagara wrote:

                                          N(n) = 2519 + (n - 1)*(2520)

                                          N(n) = (n * 2520) - 1 = 2520n - 1

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