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  • L leppie

    Judah Himango wrote:

    I kind of cheated.

    He did say "find a number" :) So there are more than one of these. I wonder if its some kind of series...

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    leppie wrote:

    So there are more than one of these. I wonder if its some kind of series...

    Take a look at the modification of Judah's code that I posted. Your number is one of the numbers that come up :)


    I'd like to help but I am too lazy to Google it for you.

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    • R Raj Lal

      Judah Himango wrote:

      I kind of cheated though

      well thats ok , and of course there are more numbers but the fun is when you deduce how to do it It's the journey, not the destination

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      Judah Gabriel Himango
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      Quartz... wrote:

      It's the journey, not the destination

      Very true. I actually had fun writing a little piece of code to solve it, though, so it was the journey even still. :) I added some more code that added each match to a list box on a Windows Form. Then, after seeing how it froze up the UI, I did it on a background thread. Still, the UI thread would get flooded with matches, almost preventing it from painting, so I further chagned the code to only update during app idle. Voila, cool little WinForms program that solves it. :cool:

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      • J Judah Gabriel Himango

        leppie wrote:

        I wonder if its some kind of series...

        It appears to be every 2520.

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        Judah Himango wrote:

        It appears to be every 2520.

        It is. Modifying the your code that I modified and posted, shows this to be true :)


        I'd like to help but I am too lazy to Google it for you.

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        • J Judah Gabriel Himango

          Quartz... wrote:

          It's the journey, not the destination

          Very true. I actually had fun writing a little piece of code to solve it, though, so it was the journey even still. :) I added some more code that added each match to a list box on a Windows Form. Then, after seeing how it froze up the UI, I did it on a background thread. Still, the UI thread would get flooded with matches, almost preventing it from painting, so I further chagned the code to only update during app idle. Voila, cool little WinForms program that solves it. :cool:

          Tech, life, family, faith: Give me a visit. I'm currently blogging about: Messianic Instrumentals (with audio) The apostle Paul, modernly speaking: Epistles of Paul Judah Himango

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          Judah Himango wrote:

          Voila, cool little WinForms program that solves it. :cool:

          That's cool. Mine is just a plain boring console app :->


          I'd like to help but I am too lazy to Google it for you.

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          • R Raj Lal

            Ok lets me be the first to ask a maths question Find a number which 1. divided by 10 gives a remainder 9 2. divided by 9 gives remainder 8 --- --- so on till divided by 2 gives a remainder 1 Any one ?

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            N(1) = 2519 N(2) = 2519 + 2520 = 5039 N(3) = 2519 + 2520 + 2520 = 7559 N(4) = 2519 + 2520 + 2520 + 2520 = 10079 ... N(n) = 2519 + (n - 1)*(2520) No idea what the heck it means, though. Care to enlighten us mathematically-challenged folks?

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            • J Jon Sagara

              N(1) = 2519 N(2) = 2519 + 2520 = 5039 N(3) = 2519 + 2520 + 2520 = 7559 N(4) = 2519 + 2520 + 2520 + 2520 = 10079 ... N(n) = 2519 + (n - 1)*(2520) No idea what the heck it means, though. Care to enlighten us mathematically-challenged folks?

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              Jon Sagara wrote:

              N(n) = 2519 + (n - 1)*(2520)

              N(n) = (n * 2520) - 1 = 2520n - 1

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                N(1) = 2519 N(2) = 2519 + 2520 = 5039 N(3) = 2519 + 2520 + 2520 = 7559 N(4) = 2519 + 2520 + 2520 + 2520 = 10079 ... N(n) = 2519 + (n - 1)*(2520) No idea what the heck it means, though. Care to enlighten us mathematically-challenged folks?

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                Some other interesting and useless observations:

                1*2*3*4*5*6*7*8*9 is divisible by 2520 = 144
                2520 is divisible by 2 * 3 * 5 * 7 = 12 (product of prime 1 - 9)
                4 * 6 * 8 * 9 is divisible by 144 = 12 (product of 'non' prime 1 - 9)

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                • R Raj Lal

                  Ok lets me be the first to ask a maths question Find a number which 1. divided by 10 gives a remainder 9 2. divided by 9 gives remainder 8 --- --- so on till divided by 2 gives a remainder 1 Any one ?

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                  10! - 1 = 3628799. Its 1 less than a multiple of 1, 2, 3 ... 10.

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                    10! - 1 = 3628799. Its 1 less than a multiple of 1, 2, 3 ... 10.

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                    ((3628799 + 1) / 10) / (2 * 3 * 4 * 6) + (9 - 7 + 8 - 10) + 1 = 2519. ;)

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                    • R Raj Lal

                      Ok lets me be the first to ask a maths question Find a number which 1. divided by 10 gives a remainder 9 2. divided by 9 gives remainder 8 --- --- so on till divided by 2 gives a remainder 1 Any one ?

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                      x = (i - 1) (mod i), 2 ≤ i ≤ 10. Thus, x = LCM(2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10) * k + LCM(2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10) - 1 LCM(2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10) = LCM(5, 7, 8, 9) = 23.32.5.7 = 2520. Thus, x = 2520k + 2519. min(x) = 2519. I had to redo it since I did it backwards.


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                      • R Raj Lal

                        Ok lets me be the first to ask a maths question Find a number which 1. divided by 10 gives a remainder 9 2. divided by 9 gives remainder 8 --- --- so on till divided by 2 gives a remainder 1 Any one ?

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                        I know I'm a little late (and a valid solution has already been given), but no real explanation has been made. You first need to find a number that is a multiple of all these multiples (10 * 9, 9 * 8, etc), then one less than that will give the proper remainders. So, to find the least common multiple, first break these into primes: 10 * 9 = 2 * 3 * 3 * 5, 9 * 8 = 2 * 2 * 2 * 3 * 3, 8 * 7 = 2 * 2 * 2 * 7, etc. Take out what is unique for each to get 2 * 2 * 2 * 3 * 3 * 5 * 7 = 2520. So, one answer (though you already know) to the original problem is 2519.

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                        • J Jon Sagara

                          N(1) = 2519 N(2) = 2519 + 2520 = 5039 N(3) = 2519 + 2520 + 2520 = 7559 N(4) = 2519 + 2520 + 2520 + 2520 = 10079 ... N(n) = 2519 + (n - 1)*(2520) No idea what the heck it means, though. Care to enlighten us mathematically-challenged folks?

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                          its the LCM of all the numbers (2520) - 1

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                            I know I'm a little late (and a valid solution has already been given), but no real explanation has been made. You first need to find a number that is a multiple of all these multiples (10 * 9, 9 * 8, etc), then one less than that will give the proper remainders. So, to find the least common multiple, first break these into primes: 10 * 9 = 2 * 3 * 3 * 5, 9 * 8 = 2 * 2 * 2 * 3 * 3, 8 * 7 = 2 * 2 * 2 * 7, etc. Take out what is unique for each to get 2 * 2 * 2 * 3 * 3 * 5 * 7 = 2520. So, one answer (though you already know) to the original problem is 2519.

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                            • B Bassam Abdul Baki

                              x = (i - 1) (mod i), 2 ≤ i ≤ 10. Thus, x = LCM(2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10) * k + LCM(2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10) - 1 LCM(2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10) = LCM(5, 7, 8, 9) = 23.32.5.7 = 2520. Thus, x = 2520k + 2519. min(x) = 2519. I had to redo it since I did it backwards.


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                              • I Ingo

                                ((3628799 + 1) / 10) / (2 * 3 * 4 * 6) + (9 - 7 + 8 - 10) + 1 = 2519. ;)

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                                • J JenovaProject

                                  10! - 1 = 3628799. Its 1 less than a multiple of 1, 2, 3 ... 10.

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                                  • R Raj Lal

                                    its the LCM of all the numbers (2520) - 1

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                                    • J Jon Sagara

                                      N(1) = 2519 N(2) = 2519 + 2520 = 5039 N(3) = 2519 + 2520 + 2520 = 7559 N(4) = 2519 + 2520 + 2520 + 2520 = 10079 ... N(n) = 2519 + (n - 1)*(2520) No idea what the heck it means, though. Care to enlighten us mathematically-challenged folks?

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                                      • J Judah Gabriel Himango

                                        Quartz... wrote:

                                        It's the journey, not the destination

                                        Very true. I actually had fun writing a little piece of code to solve it, though, so it was the journey even still. :) I added some more code that added each match to a list box on a Windows Form. Then, after seeing how it froze up the UI, I did it on a background thread. Still, the UI thread would get flooded with matches, almost preventing it from painting, so I further chagned the code to only update during app idle. Voila, cool little WinForms program that solves it. :cool:

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                                          Some other interesting and useless observations:

                                          1*2*3*4*5*6*7*8*9 is divisible by 2520 = 144
                                          2520 is divisible by 2 * 3 * 5 * 7 = 12 (product of prime 1 - 9)
                                          4 * 6 * 8 * 9 is divisible by 144 = 12 (product of 'non' prime 1 - 9)

                                          :doh:

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