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  • J Judah Gabriel Himango

    Provided I've understood the question correctly, I think I've solved it. I kind of cheated though; I wrote a C# program that solves this:

            int start = 1;
            int divisor = 10;
            while (divisor >= 2)
            {
                if (start % divisor == divisor - 1)
                {
                    divisor--;
                }
                else
                {
                    start++;
                    divisor = 10;
                }
            }
    

    Soon as that loop exits, you've got your number, which happens to be 2519.

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    Raj Lal
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    Judah Himango wrote:

    I kind of cheated though

    well thats ok , and of course there are more numbers but the fun is when you deduce how to do it It's the journey, not the destination

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      Judah Himango wrote:

      I kind of cheated.

      He did say "find a number" :) So there are more than one of these. I wonder if its some kind of series...

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      yes thats true there are many , but if you think it might take a day to get the solution , without any computer help, but its worth

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      • J Judah Gabriel Himango

        yeah yeah :) Hey, I worked for it at least. :) *edit* oooh, misunderstood you there leppie. I though you were chiding me for solving it with code rather than brain. :) Yes, there are other numbers, it appears every 2520 iteration matches the criteria.

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        Paul Conrad
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        There was a question of if there were more number, yes, there are. Here is a modification of your code that shows others :)

        #include using namespace std;

        int main()
        {
        int start = 1;
        int divisor = 10;
        while ( start <1000000 ) // Or whatevery you want in signed 32-bit range
        {
        while (divisor >= 2)
        {
        if (start % divisor == divisor - 1)
        {
        divisor--;
        }
        else
        {
        start++;
        divisor = 10;
        }
        }

            cout<
        
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          Judah Himango wrote:

          I kind of cheated.

          He did say "find a number" :) So there are more than one of these. I wonder if its some kind of series...

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          leppie wrote:

          I wonder if its some kind of series...

          It appears to be every 2520.

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            Judah Himango wrote:

            I kind of cheated.

            He did say "find a number" :) So there are more than one of these. I wonder if its some kind of series...

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            leppie wrote:

            So there are more than one of these. I wonder if its some kind of series...

            Take a look at the modification of Judah's code that I posted. Your number is one of the numbers that come up :)


            I'd like to help but I am too lazy to Google it for you.

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              Judah Himango wrote:

              I kind of cheated though

              well thats ok , and of course there are more numbers but the fun is when you deduce how to do it It's the journey, not the destination

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              Judah Gabriel Himango
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              Quartz... wrote:

              It's the journey, not the destination

              Very true. I actually had fun writing a little piece of code to solve it, though, so it was the journey even still. :) I added some more code that added each match to a list box on a Windows Form. Then, after seeing how it froze up the UI, I did it on a background thread. Still, the UI thread would get flooded with matches, almost preventing it from painting, so I further chagned the code to only update during app idle. Voila, cool little WinForms program that solves it. :cool:

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                leppie wrote:

                I wonder if its some kind of series...

                It appears to be every 2520.

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                Judah Himango wrote:

                It appears to be every 2520.

                It is. Modifying the your code that I modified and posted, shows this to be true :)


                I'd like to help but I am too lazy to Google it for you.

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                • J Judah Gabriel Himango

                  Quartz... wrote:

                  It's the journey, not the destination

                  Very true. I actually had fun writing a little piece of code to solve it, though, so it was the journey even still. :) I added some more code that added each match to a list box on a Windows Form. Then, after seeing how it froze up the UI, I did it on a background thread. Still, the UI thread would get flooded with matches, almost preventing it from painting, so I further chagned the code to only update during app idle. Voila, cool little WinForms program that solves it. :cool:

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                  Paul Conrad
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                  Judah Himango wrote:

                  Voila, cool little WinForms program that solves it. :cool:

                  That's cool. Mine is just a plain boring console app :->


                  I'd like to help but I am too lazy to Google it for you.

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                  • R Raj Lal

                    Ok lets me be the first to ask a maths question Find a number which 1. divided by 10 gives a remainder 9 2. divided by 9 gives remainder 8 --- --- so on till divided by 2 gives a remainder 1 Any one ?

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                    Jon Sagara
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                    N(1) = 2519 N(2) = 2519 + 2520 = 5039 N(3) = 2519 + 2520 + 2520 = 7559 N(4) = 2519 + 2520 + 2520 + 2520 = 10079 ... N(n) = 2519 + (n - 1)*(2520) No idea what the heck it means, though. Care to enlighten us mathematically-challenged folks?

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                      N(1) = 2519 N(2) = 2519 + 2520 = 5039 N(3) = 2519 + 2520 + 2520 = 7559 N(4) = 2519 + 2520 + 2520 + 2520 = 10079 ... N(n) = 2519 + (n - 1)*(2520) No idea what the heck it means, though. Care to enlighten us mathematically-challenged folks?

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                      leppie
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                      Jon Sagara wrote:

                      N(n) = 2519 + (n - 1)*(2520)

                      N(n) = (n * 2520) - 1 = 2520n - 1

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                      • J Jon Sagara

                        N(1) = 2519 N(2) = 2519 + 2520 = 5039 N(3) = 2519 + 2520 + 2520 = 7559 N(4) = 2519 + 2520 + 2520 + 2520 = 10079 ... N(n) = 2519 + (n - 1)*(2520) No idea what the heck it means, though. Care to enlighten us mathematically-challenged folks?

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                        Some other interesting and useless observations:

                        1*2*3*4*5*6*7*8*9 is divisible by 2520 = 144
                        2520 is divisible by 2 * 3 * 5 * 7 = 12 (product of prime 1 - 9)
                        4 * 6 * 8 * 9 is divisible by 144 = 12 (product of 'non' prime 1 - 9)

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                        • R Raj Lal

                          Ok lets me be the first to ask a maths question Find a number which 1. divided by 10 gives a remainder 9 2. divided by 9 gives remainder 8 --- --- so on till divided by 2 gives a remainder 1 Any one ?

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                          10! - 1 = 3628799. Its 1 less than a multiple of 1, 2, 3 ... 10.

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                            10! - 1 = 3628799. Its 1 less than a multiple of 1, 2, 3 ... 10.

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                            ((3628799 + 1) / 10) / (2 * 3 * 4 * 6) + (9 - 7 + 8 - 10) + 1 = 2519. ;)

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                              Ok lets me be the first to ask a maths question Find a number which 1. divided by 10 gives a remainder 9 2. divided by 9 gives remainder 8 --- --- so on till divided by 2 gives a remainder 1 Any one ?

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                              x = (i - 1) (mod i), 2 ≤ i ≤ 10. Thus, x = LCM(2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10) * k + LCM(2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10) - 1 LCM(2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10) = LCM(5, 7, 8, 9) = 23.32.5.7 = 2520. Thus, x = 2520k + 2519. min(x) = 2519. I had to redo it since I did it backwards.


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                              • R Raj Lal

                                Ok lets me be the first to ask a maths question Find a number which 1. divided by 10 gives a remainder 9 2. divided by 9 gives remainder 8 --- --- so on till divided by 2 gives a remainder 1 Any one ?

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                                I know I'm a little late (and a valid solution has already been given), but no real explanation has been made. You first need to find a number that is a multiple of all these multiples (10 * 9, 9 * 8, etc), then one less than that will give the proper remainders. So, to find the least common multiple, first break these into primes: 10 * 9 = 2 * 3 * 3 * 5, 9 * 8 = 2 * 2 * 2 * 3 * 3, 8 * 7 = 2 * 2 * 2 * 7, etc. Take out what is unique for each to get 2 * 2 * 2 * 3 * 3 * 5 * 7 = 2520. So, one answer (though you already know) to the original problem is 2519.

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                                • J Jon Sagara

                                  N(1) = 2519 N(2) = 2519 + 2520 = 5039 N(3) = 2519 + 2520 + 2520 = 7559 N(4) = 2519 + 2520 + 2520 + 2520 = 10079 ... N(n) = 2519 + (n - 1)*(2520) No idea what the heck it means, though. Care to enlighten us mathematically-challenged folks?

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                                  its the LCM of all the numbers (2520) - 1

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                                  • K Kacee Giger

                                    I know I'm a little late (and a valid solution has already been given), but no real explanation has been made. You first need to find a number that is a multiple of all these multiples (10 * 9, 9 * 8, etc), then one less than that will give the proper remainders. So, to find the least common multiple, first break these into primes: 10 * 9 = 2 * 3 * 3 * 5, 9 * 8 = 2 * 2 * 2 * 3 * 3, 8 * 7 = 2 * 2 * 2 * 7, etc. Take out what is unique for each to get 2 * 2 * 2 * 3 * 3 * 5 * 7 = 2520. So, one answer (though you already know) to the original problem is 2519.

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                                    thanks: https://movied.org

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                                    • B Bassam Abdul Baki

                                      x = (i - 1) (mod i), 2 ≤ i ≤ 10. Thus, x = LCM(2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10) * k + LCM(2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10) - 1 LCM(2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10) = LCM(5, 7, 8, 9) = 23.32.5.7 = 2520. Thus, x = 2520k + 2519. min(x) = 2519. I had to redo it since I did it backwards.


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                                        ((3628799 + 1) / 10) / (2 * 3 * 4 * 6) + (9 - 7 + 8 - 10) + 1 = 2519. ;)

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                                        • J JenovaProject

                                          10! - 1 = 3628799. Its 1 less than a multiple of 1, 2, 3 ... 10.

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