Speeding driver blames lack of goats!
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I heard something like that a while back where the CEO of Nokia (I think) was pulled over for speeding and his ticket was some crazy amount like $50,000.
"I make up quotes." -Vincent Reynolds
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Nope. It was actually $103,600. :) http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/1759791.stm[^]
"I make up quotes." -Vincent Reynolds
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Nope. It was actually $103,600. :) http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/1759791.stm[^]
"I make up quotes." -Vincent Reynolds
From the article:
Mr Vanjoki had to pay a fine equal to 14 days of his income in 1999, which was about 14 million euros ($12.5 million).
:wtf:
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Nope. It was actually $103,600. :) http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/1759791.stm[^]
"I make up quotes." -Vincent Reynolds
From the article: In Finland, traffic fines are proportionate to the latest available data on an offender's income. :wtf: Most awkward law I have ever heard. Hope Bill Gates will not be caught for breaking something in Finland. :)
Best Regards, Apurva Kaushal
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From the article: In Finland, traffic fines are proportionate to the latest available data on an offender's income. :wtf: Most awkward law I have ever heard. Hope Bill Gates will not be caught for breaking something in Finland. :)
Best Regards, Apurva Kaushal
Apurva Kaushal wrote:
Hope Bill Gates will not be caught for breaking something in Finland.
that's the point of the fine - if the fines were a flat $100 for everyone, they would be completely pointless to people with huge incomes. if you fine me $0.01 every time i break the speed limit, i'll speed all day. fine me $1000, i'll be a bit more careful. fine me 14 days salary and i'll be the safest driver on the road.
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Apurva Kaushal wrote:
Hope Bill Gates will not be caught for breaking something in Finland.
that's the point of the fine - if the fines were a flat $100 for everyone, they would be completely pointless to people with huge incomes. if you fine me $0.01 every time i break the speed limit, i'll speed all day. fine me $1000, i'll be a bit more careful. fine me 14 days salary and i'll be the safest driver on the road.
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That seems to be logical, but how can you define such a law which is different for different section of the people. Such as if you are committing any crime say murder then the punishment should be same for everyone isn't it?
Best Regards, Apurva Kaushal
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That seems to be logical, but how can you define such a law which is different for different section of the people. Such as if you are committing any crime say murder then the punishment should be same for everyone isn't it?
Best Regards, Apurva Kaushal
Apurva Kaushal wrote:
uch as if you are committing any crime say murder then the punishment should be same for everyone isn't it?
in this case, the punishment is the same : 14 days wages, regardless of who you are. it's unusual, but in a way it sounds more fair to me than taking $100 from every offender, no matter how much it hurts the offender: $100 is a lot of money to some people, not a lot to other people. i kinda like it...
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Apurva Kaushal wrote:
Such as if you are committing any crime say murder then the punishment should be same for everyone isn't it?
But you don't get fined for murder. That's the difference.
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Apurva Kaushal wrote:
uch as if you are committing any crime say murder then the punishment should be same for everyone isn't it?
in this case, the punishment is the same : 14 days wages, regardless of who you are. it's unusual, but in a way it sounds more fair to me than taking $100 from every offender, no matter how much it hurts the offender: $100 is a lot of money to some people, not a lot to other people. i kinda like it...
I don't think it makes much sense. But another way could be is if rule is for fine then it should be according to your income (It can be equal to just 10 days of your income) and if the rule says (for some big crime) some physical punishment it should be equal to all the persons. Does this make some sense. :)
Best Regards, Apurva Kaushal
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Apurva Kaushal wrote:
uch as if you are committing any crime say murder then the punishment should be same for everyone isn't it?
in this case, the punishment is the same : 14 days wages, regardless of who you are. it's unusual, but in a way it sounds more fair to me than taking $100 from every offender, no matter how much it hurts the offender: $100 is a lot of money to some people, not a lot to other people. i kinda like it...
I think it also would cause cops to look for rich people. If you're speeding in an old clunker, they may not waste the time. It can very easily be interpreted as class envy.
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I think it also would cause cops to look for rich people. If you're speeding in an old clunker, they may not waste the time. It can very easily be interpreted as class envy.
Logifusion[^] If not entertaining, write your Congressman.
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Apurva Kaushal wrote:
Hope Bill Gates will not be caught for breaking something in Finland.
that's the point of the fine - if the fines were a flat $100 for everyone, they would be completely pointless to people with huge incomes. if you fine me $0.01 every time i break the speed limit, i'll speed all day. fine me $1000, i'll be a bit more careful. fine me 14 days salary and i'll be the safest driver on the road.
Besides being very communist, that wouldn't work well anyway as most wealthy people do not have income registered in a traditional way. If I lived out there and had $200 million, I would offshore my money and report income in another country so that if I were ever fined, it wouldn't cost me $770,000.
"I make up quotes." -Vincent Reynolds
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I think it also would cause cops to look for rich people. If you're speeding in an old clunker, they may not waste the time. It can very easily be interpreted as class envy.
Logifusion[^] If not entertaining, write your Congressman.
Dustin Metzgar wrote:
I think it also would cause cops to look for rich people.
good point
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Besides being very communist, that wouldn't work well anyway as most wealthy people do not have income registered in a traditional way. If I lived out there and had $200 million, I would offshore my money and report income in another country so that if I were ever fined, it wouldn't cost me $770,000.
"I make up quotes." -Vincent Reynolds
espeir wrote:
Besides being very communist
i suggest you look up what "communist" means.
espeir wrote:
hat wouldn't work well anyway as most wealthy people do not have income registered in a traditional way
i don't know the specifics of Finland's taxation and income reporting laws, so i'm not comfortable commenting on how rich people manage their money in that country.
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The perp was pulled doing 100mph in a 60mph zone in Ontario, but explained that his need for speed was provoked by a simple lack of goats which in his native land regularly wander the roads acting as caprine velocity moderators.[^] Anyone from Switzerland care to comment?
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The story is clearly made up. Everyone in Ontario knows you won't get pulled over for doing 160 in a 100 zone ;)
cheers, Chris Maunder
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espeir wrote:
Besides being very communist
i suggest you look up what "communist" means.
espeir wrote:
hat wouldn't work well anyway as most wealthy people do not have income registered in a traditional way
i don't know the specifics of Finland's taxation and income reporting laws, so i'm not comfortable commenting on how rich people manage their money in that country.
Chris Losinger wrote:
i suggest you look up what "communist" means.
I know what it means and the term fits.
"I make up quotes." -Vincent Reynolds
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Chris Losinger wrote:
i suggest you look up what "communist" means.
I know what it means and the term fits.
"I make up quotes." -Vincent Reynolds
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The story is clearly made up. Everyone in Ontario knows you won't get pulled over for doing 160 in a 100 zone ;)
cheers, Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
Chris Maunder wrote:
doing 160 in a 100 zone
You say that like it's a bad thing... ;P Warren (also in Toronto)
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The perp was pulled doing 100mph in a 60mph zone in Ontario, but explained that his need for speed was provoked by a simple lack of goats which in his native land regularly wander the roads acting as caprine velocity moderators.[^] Anyone from Switzerland care to comment?
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Think that would work for me? "I am sorry officer, but I had to speed. I was frightened by the lack of rattlesnakes, cattle, and vultures and was just trying to get back to friendly territory."
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