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  • C Colin Angus Mackay

    The perp was pulled doing 100mph in a 60mph zone in Ontario, but explained that his need for speed was provoked by a simple lack of goats which in his native land regularly wander the roads acting as caprine velocity moderators.[^] Anyone from Switzerland care to comment?


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    Harald Krause
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    I am traveling a lot in switzerland and never seen a goat on the street. (But there are a lot of goats, sheeps, cows etc. BEHIND fences along the streets) Streets are mostly so clean, that you can eat from them....

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    • C Colin Angus Mackay

      The perp was pulled doing 100mph in a 60mph zone in Ontario, but explained that his need for speed was provoked by a simple lack of goats which in his native land regularly wander the roads acting as caprine velocity moderators.[^] Anyone from Switzerland care to comment?


      Upcoming Scottish Developers events: * UK Security Evangelists On Tour (2nd November, Edinburgh) * Developer Day Scotland: are you interested in speaking or attending? My: Website | Blog

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      Jun Du
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      As a camper myself, I perfectly understand what he said :laugh:

      Best, Jun

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      • C Colin Angus Mackay

        The perp was pulled doing 100mph in a 60mph zone in Ontario, but explained that his need for speed was provoked by a simple lack of goats which in his native land regularly wander the roads acting as caprine velocity moderators.[^] Anyone from Switzerland care to comment?


        Upcoming Scottish Developers events: * UK Security Evangelists On Tour (2nd November, Edinburgh) * Developer Day Scotland: are you interested in speaking or attending? My: Website | Blog

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        Wjousts
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        I work for a Swiss company and what I have heard is that Swiss traffic fines are linked to your income. So, if you earn more, you pay more, which I think is an excellent idea! Never heard anybody complain about goats though.

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        • W Wjousts

          I work for a Swiss company and what I have heard is that Swiss traffic fines are linked to your income. So, if you earn more, you pay more, which I think is an excellent idea! Never heard anybody complain about goats though.

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          Jun Du
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          Wow, it sure sounds like communism there!

          Best, Jun

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            Wow, it sure sounds like communism there!

            Best, Jun

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            Jun Du wrote:

            Wow, it sure sounds like communism there!

            :laugh: :laugh:

            Best Regards, Apurva Kaushal

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            • W Wjousts

              I work for a Swiss company and what I have heard is that Swiss traffic fines are linked to your income. So, if you earn more, you pay more, which I think is an excellent idea! Never heard anybody complain about goats though.

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              Red Stateler
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              I heard something like that a while back where the CEO of Nokia (I think) was pulled over for speeding and his ticket was some crazy amount like $50,000.


              "I make up quotes." -Vincent Reynolds

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                I heard something like that a while back where the CEO of Nokia (I think) was pulled over for speeding and his ticket was some crazy amount like $50,000.


                "I make up quotes." -Vincent Reynolds

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                _AK_
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                espeir wrote:

                crazy amount like $50,000.

                Is it true? :omg:

                Best Regards, Apurva Kaushal

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                  espeir wrote:

                  crazy amount like $50,000.

                  Is it true? :omg:

                  Best Regards, Apurva Kaushal

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                  Red Stateler
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                  Nope. It was actually $103,600. :) http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/1759791.stm[^]


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                  • R Red Stateler

                    Nope. It was actually $103,600. :) http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/1759791.stm[^]


                    "I make up quotes." -Vincent Reynolds

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                    Dustin Metzgar
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                    From the article:

                    Mr Vanjoki had to pay a fine equal to 14 days of his income in 1999, which was about 14 million euros ($12.5 million).

                    :wtf:


                    Logifusion[^] If not entertaining, write your Congressman.

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                      Nope. It was actually $103,600. :) http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/1759791.stm[^]


                      "I make up quotes." -Vincent Reynolds

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                      From the article: In Finland, traffic fines are proportionate to the latest available data on an offender's income. :wtf: Most awkward law I have ever heard. Hope Bill Gates will not be caught for breaking something in Finland. :)

                      Best Regards, Apurva Kaushal

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                        From the article: In Finland, traffic fines are proportionate to the latest available data on an offender's income. :wtf: Most awkward law I have ever heard. Hope Bill Gates will not be caught for breaking something in Finland. :)

                        Best Regards, Apurva Kaushal

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                        Chris Losinger
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                        Apurva Kaushal wrote:

                        Hope Bill Gates will not be caught for breaking something in Finland.

                        that's the point of the fine - if the fines were a flat $100 for everyone, they would be completely pointless to people with huge incomes. if you fine me $0.01 every time i break the speed limit, i'll speed all day. fine me $1000, i'll be a bit more careful. fine me 14 days salary and i'll be the safest driver on the road.

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                        • C Chris Losinger

                          Apurva Kaushal wrote:

                          Hope Bill Gates will not be caught for breaking something in Finland.

                          that's the point of the fine - if the fines were a flat $100 for everyone, they would be completely pointless to people with huge incomes. if you fine me $0.01 every time i break the speed limit, i'll speed all day. fine me $1000, i'll be a bit more careful. fine me 14 days salary and i'll be the safest driver on the road.

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                          That seems to be logical, but how can you define such a law which is different for different section of the people. Such as if you are committing any crime say murder then the punishment should be same for everyone isn't it?

                          Best Regards, Apurva Kaushal

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                            That seems to be logical, but how can you define such a law which is different for different section of the people. Such as if you are committing any crime say murder then the punishment should be same for everyone isn't it?

                            Best Regards, Apurva Kaushal

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                            Wjousts
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                            Apurva Kaushal wrote:

                            Such as if you are committing any crime say murder then the punishment should be same for everyone isn't it?

                            But you don't get fined for murder. That's the difference.

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                              That seems to be logical, but how can you define such a law which is different for different section of the people. Such as if you are committing any crime say murder then the punishment should be same for everyone isn't it?

                              Best Regards, Apurva Kaushal

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                              Apurva Kaushal wrote:

                              uch as if you are committing any crime say murder then the punishment should be same for everyone isn't it?

                              in this case, the punishment is the same : 14 days wages, regardless of who you are. it's unusual, but in a way it sounds more fair to me than taking $100 from every offender, no matter how much it hurts the offender: $100 is a lot of money to some people, not a lot to other people. i kinda like it...

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                                Apurva Kaushal wrote:

                                Such as if you are committing any crime say murder then the punishment should be same for everyone isn't it?

                                But you don't get fined for murder. That's the difference.

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                                Ya thats true, so if you are being fined(for any law breaking) then it should be according to your income level and if you are doing some other crime(something big :)) then it should be equal. :)

                                Best Regards, Apurva Kaushal

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                                • C Chris Losinger

                                  Apurva Kaushal wrote:

                                  uch as if you are committing any crime say murder then the punishment should be same for everyone isn't it?

                                  in this case, the punishment is the same : 14 days wages, regardless of who you are. it's unusual, but in a way it sounds more fair to me than taking $100 from every offender, no matter how much it hurts the offender: $100 is a lot of money to some people, not a lot to other people. i kinda like it...

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                                  _AK_
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                                  I don't think it makes much sense. But another way could be is if rule is for fine then it should be according to your income (It can be equal to just 10 days of your income) and if the rule says (for some big crime) some physical punishment it should be equal to all the persons. Does this make some sense. :)

                                  Best Regards, Apurva Kaushal

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                                    Apurva Kaushal wrote:

                                    uch as if you are committing any crime say murder then the punishment should be same for everyone isn't it?

                                    in this case, the punishment is the same : 14 days wages, regardless of who you are. it's unusual, but in a way it sounds more fair to me than taking $100 from every offender, no matter how much it hurts the offender: $100 is a lot of money to some people, not a lot to other people. i kinda like it...

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                                    I think it also would cause cops to look for rich people. If you're speeding in an old clunker, they may not waste the time. It can very easily be interpreted as class envy.


                                    Logifusion[^] If not entertaining, write your Congressman.

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                                      I think it also would cause cops to look for rich people. If you're speeding in an old clunker, they may not waste the time. It can very easily be interpreted as class envy.


                                      Logifusion[^] If not entertaining, write your Congressman.

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                                      _AK_
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                                      makes sense :) One rich guy can be equal to 100 of small poor fellows.. :)

                                      Best Regards, Apurva Kaushal

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                                      • C Chris Losinger

                                        Apurva Kaushal wrote:

                                        Hope Bill Gates will not be caught for breaking something in Finland.

                                        that's the point of the fine - if the fines were a flat $100 for everyone, they would be completely pointless to people with huge incomes. if you fine me $0.01 every time i break the speed limit, i'll speed all day. fine me $1000, i'll be a bit more careful. fine me 14 days salary and i'll be the safest driver on the road.

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                                        Red Stateler
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                                        Besides being very communist, that wouldn't work well anyway as most wealthy people do not have income registered in a traditional way. If I lived out there and had $200 million, I would offshore my money and report income in another country so that if I were ever fined, it wouldn't cost me $770,000.


                                        "I make up quotes." -Vincent Reynolds

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                                        • D Dustin Metzgar

                                          I think it also would cause cops to look for rich people. If you're speeding in an old clunker, they may not waste the time. It can very easily be interpreted as class envy.


                                          Logifusion[^] If not entertaining, write your Congressman.

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                                          Chris Losinger
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                                          Dustin Metzgar wrote:

                                          I think it also would cause cops to look for rich people.

                                          good point

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