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  • realJSOPR realJSOP

    Okay, I've given up trying to find a free one for un-managed code, so I started looking around for an inexpensive one, and found this: ChartDirector[^] It's only $99, and is directly supported in an un-managed coding environment (MFC and C++). The graphs on their demo pages look great, and it appears as if it does everything you'd want in a charting library, even including cross-platform compatibility. Has anyone heard of these guys or used their stuff before? (They also have .NET, PHP, ASP, PERL, Python, and JSP/Java versions.) I fired off an email asking some questions about their licensing, and I'll be happy to share their responses if anyone is interested.

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    John, Did you look at this? Intel Array Visualizer[^] Its free, and very comprehensive (if a little difficult to use!) Dan

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      John, Did you look at this? Intel Array Visualizer[^] Its free, and very comprehensive (if a little difficult to use!) Dan

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      Yeah, I knew about that, but it uses OpenGL, and as we all know, OpenGL isn't exactly favored my MS, not to mention you need specific capabilities (and an OpenGL driver) to make it go. I'd rather pay for a library rather than have to deal with those kinds of issues.

      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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        Yeah, I knew about that, but it uses OpenGL, and as we all know, OpenGL isn't exactly favored my MS, not to mention you need specific capabilities (and an OpenGL driver) to make it go. I'd rather pay for a library rather than have to deal with those kinds of issues.

        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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        "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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        wout de zeeuw
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        Rather OpenGL than the everchanging DirectX stuff. OpenGL 1.1 should be pretty ubiquitous?

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          Rather OpenGL than the everchanging DirectX stuff. OpenGL 1.1 should be pretty ubiquitous?

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          Look for ZedGraph library. There's an article also here on CP. It's for free! (released under LGPL License) Regards

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            Rather OpenGL than the everchanging DirectX stuff. OpenGL 1.1 should be pretty ubiquitous?

            Wout

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            Use of DirectX vs OGL is a moot point. In fact, it's not even germaine to the discussion. I want to do simple 2D business charts, not 3-d terrain stuff...

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            • W wout de zeeuw

              Rather OpenGL than the everchanging DirectX stuff. OpenGL 1.1 should be pretty ubiquitous?

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              Wout, That's what I thought. I didn't have to do anything extra to get it to work. But I guess it depends on where you intend to deploy...

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                Look for ZedGraph library. There's an article also here on CP. It's for free! (released under LGPL License) Regards

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                Once again, I want an UN-MANAGED C++ library, NOT .NET.

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                • realJSOPR realJSOP

                  Okay, I've given up trying to find a free one for un-managed code, so I started looking around for an inexpensive one, and found this: ChartDirector[^] It's only $99, and is directly supported in an un-managed coding environment (MFC and C++). The graphs on their demo pages look great, and it appears as if it does everything you'd want in a charting library, even including cross-platform compatibility. Has anyone heard of these guys or used their stuff before? (They also have .NET, PHP, ASP, PERL, Python, and JSP/Java versions.) I fired off an email asking some questions about their licensing, and I'll be happy to share their responses if anyone is interested.

                  "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                  -----
                  "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                  Hey John, I know you don't want to go the .NET route, but it is possible to embed a .NET charting control in an MFC window (a view or a dialog). So if you are not satisfied with any of the native controls you are looking at, it may be an option to consider. The bad side is that this would add a dependency on the .NET framework.

                  Regards, Nish


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                  Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New)

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                    Use of DirectX vs OGL is a moot point. In fact, it's not even germaine to the discussion. I want to do simple 2D business charts, not 3-d terrain stuff...

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                    "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                    John, I assume you've looked at this NTGraph[^] and it insn't up to the job? I used it because it was very lightweight - the previous (commercial) charting tool we used came with (dependent) distributables that were about 3 times the size of our app...

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                      Hey John, I know you don't want to go the .NET route, but it is possible to embed a .NET charting control in an MFC window (a view or a dialog). So if you are not satisfied with any of the native controls you are looking at, it may be an option to consider. The bad side is that this would add a dependency on the .NET framework.

                      Regards, Nish


                      Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                      Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New)

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                      I'm fully aware of what's possible. I'm not interested in burdening my application under the weight of .NET. Observing the fact that I am willing to PAY for a library to avoid .NET should give you a bit more perspective on my views. Native code rules - managed code drools...

                      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                      "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                      • realJSOPR realJSOP

                        Okay, I've given up trying to find a free one for un-managed code, so I started looking around for an inexpensive one, and found this: ChartDirector[^] It's only $99, and is directly supported in an un-managed coding environment (MFC and C++). The graphs on their demo pages look great, and it appears as if it does everything you'd want in a charting library, even including cross-platform compatibility. Has anyone heard of these guys or used their stuff before? (They also have .NET, PHP, ASP, PERL, Python, and JSP/Java versions.) I fired off an email asking some questions about their licensing, and I'll be happy to share their responses if anyone is interested.

                        "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                        -----
                        "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                        John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                        It's only $99,

                        Plus $499 for the redist license. :( /ravi

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                          Hey John, I know you don't want to go the .NET route, but it is possible to embed a .NET charting control in an MFC window (a view or a dialog). So if you are not satisfied with any of the native controls you are looking at, it may be an option to consider. The bad side is that this would add a dependency on the .NET framework.

                          Regards, Nish


                          Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                          Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New)

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                          Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                          The bad side is that this would add a dependency on the .NET framework.

                          You might as well ask to John to start wearing lacey panties.

                          Ryan

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                          • N Nish Nishant

                            Hey John, I know you don't want to go the .NET route, but it is possible to embed a .NET charting control in an MFC window (a view or a dialog). So if you are not satisfied with any of the native controls you are looking at, it may be an option to consider. The bad side is that this would add a dependency on the .NET framework.

                            Regards, Nish


                            Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
                            Currently working on C++/CLI in Action for Manning Publications. Also visit the Ultimate Toolbox blog (New)

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                            By the way, I downloaded and compiled the C++ demo code. The first thing that impressed me about the library is that it compiled clean (not even a single warning) under VS2005. The second thing that impressed me was that the charts are all flawless. Lastly, the sheer NUMBER of available charts is simply astounding. All that for just $99 (per language). And in case anyone is curious, I don't know if it comes with source code, and frankly I don't care. If it is easily implemented and the support is there, who needs the source? I just want to make graphs. (Oh yeah, the redistribution license is royalty free for the DLL.) Now, does anyone have any experience with this library? I'm on the verge of buying it.

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                              John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                              It's only $99,

                              Plus $499 for the redist license. :( /ravi

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                              Wrong, bucko. It's royalty-free when you include the DLL with a desktop app.

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                              "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                                Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                                The bad side is that this would add a dependency on the .NET framework.

                                You might as well ask to John to start wearing lacey panties.

                                Ryan

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                                Ryan Roberts wrote:

                                You might as well ask to John to start wearing lacey panties.

                                now that was funny

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                                • K Kyudos

                                  John, I assume you've looked at this NTGraph[^] and it insn't up to the job? I used it because it was very lightweight - the previous (commercial) charting tool we used came with (dependent) distributables that were about 3 times the size of our app...

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                                  Yeah, I saw it - not sufficient. I want anti-aliased lines without having to turn myself inside out (or having to require an external library like OpenGL).

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                                  • realJSOPR realJSOP

                                    Wrong, bucko. It's royalty-free when you include the DLL with a desktop app.

                                    "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
                                    -----
                                    "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                                    Their Licensing Faq[^] seems to indicate otherwise. /ravi

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                                    • realJSOPR realJSOP

                                      I'm fully aware of what's possible. I'm not interested in burdening my application under the weight of .NET. Observing the fact that I am willing to PAY for a library to avoid .NET should give you a bit more perspective on my views. Native code rules - managed code drools...

                                      "Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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                                      "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001

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                                      Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                                      John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                      . I'm not interested in burdening my application under the weight of .NET.

                                      Have you really studied whether it is really a burden? IMHO: If you get a library use it, otherwise the .Net alternative is not a bad one.


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                                        John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

                                        . I'm not interested in burdening my application under the weight of .NET.

                                        Have you really studied whether it is really a burden? IMHO: If you get a library use it, otherwise the .Net alternative is not a bad one.


                                        Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code in the first place. Therefore, if you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are, by definition, not smart enough to debug it. -Brian Kernighan

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                                        Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

                                        Have you really studied whether it is really a burden?

                                        What part of "25mb runtime" doesn't scream "burden" at you? This thread is not intended to be a contest to see who can say the most good/bad things about .NET. I stated my requirement for a library written in un-managed code, intended for use in an MFC application. Nowhere in that requirement did I even HINT that a .NET library was an acceptable solution. Why are you people so hell-bent on trying to coerce me into using crap I don't want to use? Now that we have the pleasantries out of the freakin' way, can we get back to the issue at hand?

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                                        • RaviBeeR RaviBee

                                          Their Licensing Faq[^] seems to indicate otherwise. /ravi

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                                          Interesting. Looked at that way, TeeChart ($379 per dev for the ActiveX version, but no royalties) is actually cheaper unless you need two or more development licences. It sure looks pretty though.

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