Inexpensive Charting Library

realJSOP

Once again, I want an UN-MANAGED C++ library, NOT .NET.

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Nish Nishant

Hey John, I know you don't want to go the .NET route, but it is possible to embed a .NET charting control in an MFC window (a view or a dialog). So if you are not satisfied with any of the native controls you are looking at, it may be an option to consider. The bad side is that this would add a dependency on the .NET framework.

Regards, Nish

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Kyudos

John, I assume you've looked at this NTGraph[^] and it insn't up to the job? I used it because it was very lightweight - the previous (commercial) charting tool we used came with (dependent) distributables that were about 3 times the size of our app...

realJSOP

I'm fully aware of what's possible. I'm not interested in burdening my application under the weight of .NET. Observing the fact that I am willing to PAY for a library to avoid .NET should give you a bit more perspective on my views. Native code rules - managed code drools...

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RaviBee

John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

It's only $99,

Plus $499 for the redist license. :( /ravi

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Ryan Roberts

Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

The bad side is that this would add a dependency on the .NET framework.

You might as well ask to John to start wearing lacey panties.

Ryan

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realJSOP

By the way, I downloaded and compiled the C++ demo code. The first thing that impressed me about the library is that it compiled clean (not even a single warning) under VS2005. The second thing that impressed me was that the charts are all flawless. Lastly, the sheer NUMBER of available charts is simply astounding. All that for just $99 (per language). And in case anyone is curious, I don't know if it comes with source code, and frankly I don't care. If it is easily implemented and the support is there, who needs the source? I just want to make graphs. (Oh yeah, the redistribution license is royalty free for the DLL.) Now, does anyone have any experience with this library? I'm on the verge of buying it.

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realJSOP

Wrong, bucko. It's royalty-free when you include the DLL with a desktop app.

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Mike Gaskey

Ryan Roberts wrote:

You might as well ask to John to start wearing lacey panties.

now that was funny

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realJSOP

Yeah, I saw it - not sufficient. I want anti-aliased lines without having to turn myself inside out (or having to require an external library like OpenGL).

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RaviBee

Their Licensing Faq[^] seems to indicate otherwise. /ravi

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Rama Krishna Vavilala

John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

. I'm not interested in burdening my application under the weight of .NET.

Have you really studied whether it is really a burden? IMHO: If you get a library use it, otherwise the .Net alternative is not a bad one.

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realJSOP

Rama Krishna Vavilala wrote:

Have you really studied whether it is really a burden?

What part of "25mb runtime" doesn't scream "burden" at you? This thread is not intended to be a contest to see who can say the most good/bad things about .NET. I stated my requirement for a library written in un-managed code, intended for use in an MFC application. Nowhere in that requirement did I even HINT that a .NET library was an acceptable solution. Why are you people so hell-bent on trying to coerce me into using crap I don't want to use? Now that we have the pleasantries out of the freakin' way, can we get back to the issue at hand?

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Anna Jayne Metcalfe

Interesting. Looked at that way, TeeChart ($379 per dev for the ActiveX version, but no royalties) is actually cheaper unless you need two or more development licences. It sure looks pretty though.

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Lost User

John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

Why are you people so hell-bent of trying to coerce me into using crap I don't want to use?

Misery loves company? A successful .NET implementation somehow validates their choice to jump on the .NET bandwagon?

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Anna Jayne Metcalfe

LOL! :laugh:

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Nish Nishant

John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

By the way, I downloaded and compiled the C++ demo code. The first thing that impressed me about the library is that it compiled clean (not even a single warning) under VS2005. The second thing that impressed me was that the charts are all flawless. Lastly, the sheer NUMBER of available charts is simply astounding. All that for just $99 (per language).

I downloaded and gave it a test run too. Looks really good. Compiles without warnings on both VC 6 and VC 2005 - which is an excellent achievement. And yeah, the graphs look good too - though till you start using it, it won't be fully obvious how easy it's to implement.

John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote:

Now, does anyone have any experience with this library? I'm on the verge of buying it.

You may well be the first CPian to buy it :-)

Regards, Nish

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wout de zeeuw

OpenGL is not a lib, so you don't have to install it. DirectX on the other hand...

Wout

wout de zeeuw

At least someone got the point :rolleyes:

Wout

realJSOP

Both require that the end-user have one or the other installed. Frequently being an end-user myself, I hate to be told I have to install this or that in order to use an app I just downloaded. Why doesn't the download include everything I need? Get my drift? I treat end-users like they're all just like me - lazy.

"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass..." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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"...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001