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  • C Chris Losinger

    want must have !

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    Maximilien
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    That might be a reason for me to change carrier !!! hopefully it will be supported in Canada.


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    • P Paul Watson

      hehe. You can get one in June on Cingular.

      regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

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      I don't see it happening, at least not until it becomes pointless.

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      Doctor Nick
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      Too bad their service here sucks. If I switched I wouldn't get ANY signal in half my state! :sigh:

      ------------------------------------- Do not do what has already been done. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.. but it ROCKS absolutely, too.

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        That might be a reason for me to change carrier !!! hopefully it will be supported in Canada.


        Maximilien Lincourt Your Head A Splode - Strong Bad

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        Doctor Nick
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        If their coverage in Canada is anything like the US you won't want to switch unless you REALLY like listening to MP3s since you won't have service in half the country.

        ------------------------------------- Do not do what has already been done. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.. but it ROCKS absolutely, too.

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          Nice, Apple are doing the iPhone[^]. Full touch-screen, no physical buttons, 8gb, music, video and... wow, it makes phone calls :) It runs OS X and includes the Safari browser, not just a cut-down mobile browser (so full Ajax.) It looks pretty good. $499 for 4gb model, $599 for 8gb (no brainer), available in June in the USA, Q4 in Europe, 2008 for Asia. Apple site updated with pretty pictures and marketeering.[^]

          regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

          Shog9 wrote:

          I don't see it happening, at least not until it becomes pointless.

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          Maximilien
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          Let's see what the new iPods will look like !!


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            Nice, Apple are doing the iPhone[^]. Full touch-screen, no physical buttons, 8gb, music, video and... wow, it makes phone calls :) It runs OS X and includes the Safari browser, not just a cut-down mobile browser (so full Ajax.) It looks pretty good. $499 for 4gb model, $599 for 8gb (no brainer), available in June in the USA, Q4 in Europe, 2008 for Asia. Apple site updated with pretty pictures and marketeering.[^]

            regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

            Shog9 wrote:

            I don't see it happening, at least not until it becomes pointless.

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            Duncan Edwards Jones
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            Wow - if anyone has RIM (Blackberry) shares I'd suggest selling them now...

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              If their coverage in Canada is anything like the US you won't want to switch unless you REALLY like listening to MP3s since you won't have service in half the country.

              ------------------------------------- Do not do what has already been done. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.. but it ROCKS absolutely, too.

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              Nish Nishant
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              Nicholas Wigant wrote:

              If their coverage in Canada is anything like the US you won't want to switch unless you REALLY like listening to MP3s since you won't have service in half the country.

              As far as I know, Cingular does not operate in Canada. (Unless they have a tie-up with some Canadian phone company)

              Regards, Nish


              Nish’s thoughts on MFC, C++/CLI and .NET (my blog)
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                Nice, Apple are doing the iPhone[^]. Full touch-screen, no physical buttons, 8gb, music, video and... wow, it makes phone calls :) It runs OS X and includes the Safari browser, not just a cut-down mobile browser (so full Ajax.) It looks pretty good. $499 for 4gb model, $599 for 8gb (no brainer), available in June in the USA, Q4 in Europe, 2008 for Asia. Apple site updated with pretty pictures and marketeering.[^]

                regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                Shog9 wrote:

                I don't see it happening, at least not until it becomes pointless.

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                Member 96
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                Looks pretty cool, but they simply won't be able to call it an IPhone since that is trademarked to another company already. I wonder in the end how people will feel about the non tactile nature of the buttons. I've never held an IPod but I imagine one of the really good things about the current design is that you can operate it without looking at it because you can feel the buttons on it. If they could have added some sort of tactility to it in addition to the touch screen that would be a *killer* app.

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                  Too bad their service here sucks. If I switched I wouldn't get ANY signal in half my state! :sigh:

                  ------------------------------------- Do not do what has already been done. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.. but it ROCKS absolutely, too.

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                  Jon Sagara
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                  My experience is exactly the opposite. Cingular coverage rocks, and everyone else sucks.

                  Jon Sagara When I grow up, I'm changing my name to Joe Kickass! My Blog | My Site | My Articles

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                    Too bad their service here sucks. If I switched I wouldn't get ANY signal in half my state! :sigh:

                    ------------------------------------- Do not do what has already been done. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.. but it ROCKS absolutely, too.

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                    Paul Watson
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                    Glad I am in Europe, it should come here unlocked and on any network.

                    regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                    Shog9 wrote:

                    I don't see it happening, at least not until it becomes pointless.

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                      Looks pretty cool, but they simply won't be able to call it an IPhone since that is trademarked to another company already. I wonder in the end how people will feel about the non tactile nature of the buttons. I've never held an IPod but I imagine one of the really good things about the current design is that you can operate it without looking at it because you can feel the buttons on it. If they could have added some sort of tactility to it in addition to the touch screen that would be a *killer* app.

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                      Paul Watson
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                      They must have bought it from Linksys/Cisco or feel that they have a legal position to use it. Jobs keeps calling it that and all the screens say iPhone.

                      regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

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                      I don't see it happening, at least not until it becomes pointless.

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                        They must have bought it from Linksys/Cisco or feel that they have a legal position to use it. Jobs keeps calling it that and all the screens say iPhone.

                        regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                        Shog9 wrote:

                        I don't see it happening, at least not until it becomes pointless.

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                        Not likely, in fact there are 4 companies that have applied for the IPhone trademark or derivitive, two of which have already sold products with that trademark, none of them are Apple. http://blogs.zdnet.com/ip-telephony/?p=1371[^] The UPSPTO is simply never going to give a trademark to a company (apple) that apparently hasn't even applied for it over two other companies that have already been selling products with that trademark.

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                          Not likely, in fact there are 4 companies that have applied for the IPhone trademark or derivitive, two of which have already sold products with that trademark, none of them are Apple. http://blogs.zdnet.com/ip-telephony/?p=1371[^] The UPSPTO is simply never going to give a trademark to a company (apple) that apparently hasn't even applied for it over two other companies that have already been selling products with that trademark.

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                          Rocky Moore
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                          I would imagine they have already worked out deals. It would be stupid for a company the size of Apple to have such obvious trademark conflicts and be sued for everything they own.

                          Rocky <>< Latest Code Blog Post: SQL Server Express Warnings & Tips Latest Tech Blog Post: Microsoft doing it again!

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                            Looks pretty cool, but they simply won't be able to call it an IPhone since that is trademarked to another company already. I wonder in the end how people will feel about the non tactile nature of the buttons. I've never held an IPod but I imagine one of the really good things about the current design is that you can operate it without looking at it because you can feel the buttons on it. If they could have added some sort of tactility to it in addition to the touch screen that would be a *killer* app.

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                            John Cardinal wrote:

                            I've never held an IPod but I imagine one of the really good things about the current design is that you can operate it without looking at it because you can feel the buttons on it.

                            I rarely ever use my iPod without looking at it. The only thing might be to hit next while it's in shuffle mode and I don't want to listen to a song that's come up. But I'm sure there'll be some sort of gesture you can draw over it to do that instead.

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                              Nice, Apple are doing the iPhone[^]. Full touch-screen, no physical buttons, 8gb, music, video and... wow, it makes phone calls :) It runs OS X and includes the Safari browser, not just a cut-down mobile browser (so full Ajax.) It looks pretty good. $499 for 4gb model, $599 for 8gb (no brainer), available in June in the USA, Q4 in Europe, 2008 for Asia. Apple site updated with pretty pictures and marketeering.[^]

                              regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                              Shog9 wrote:

                              I don't see it happening, at least not until it becomes pointless.

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                              Looks cool, just too bad it is a phone! This is what the iPod should be like :)

                              Rocky <>< Latest Code Blog Post: SQL Server Express Warnings & Tips Latest Tech Blog Post: Microsoft doing it again!

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                                I would imagine they have already worked out deals. It would be stupid for a company the size of Apple to have such obvious trademark conflicts and be sued for everything they own.

                                Rocky <>< Latest Code Blog Post: SQL Server Express Warnings & Tips Latest Tech Blog Post: Microsoft doing it again!

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                                Well as Scottie might say "you canna break the laws of physics". This is a similar situation. I see absolutely no way around it. If there was ever a hope that Cisco would sell the trademark to Apple it was surely dashed when only a few months ago Cisco released a line of products under that long held trademark.

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                                  Not likely, in fact there are 4 companies that have applied for the IPhone trademark or derivitive, two of which have already sold products with that trademark, none of them are Apple. http://blogs.zdnet.com/ip-telephony/?p=1371[^] The UPSPTO is simply never going to give a trademark to a company (apple) that apparently hasn't even applied for it over two other companies that have already been selling products with that trademark.

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                                  Paul Watson
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                                  Fair enough but they must have worked something out. Jobs is pretty candid about this kind of thing, if they couldn't get "iPhone" he would have said so in the keynote; "Lads, we wanted to call it an iPhone too but you know these laws, we just can't, so it's the Apple Phone." But he called it the iPhone. And the Apple website says iPhone. I hope they get it, it fits everything else they have done the past few years.

                                  regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

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                                  I don't see it happening, at least not until it becomes pointless.

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                                    Looks cool, just too bad it is a phone! This is what the iPod should be like :)

                                    Rocky <>< Latest Code Blog Post: SQL Server Express Warnings & Tips Latest Tech Blog Post: Microsoft doing it again!

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                                    Well, it's got full iPod functionality in it and it isn't an afterthought like on most MP3 phones. nano like storage though.

                                    regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                                    Shog9 wrote:

                                    I don't see it happening, at least not until it becomes pointless.

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                                      Well as Scottie might say "you canna break the laws of physics". This is a similar situation. I see absolutely no way around it. If there was ever a hope that Cisco would sell the trademark to Apple it was surely dashed when only a few months ago Cisco released a line of products under that long held trademark.

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                                      Paul Watson
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                                      "We expect to receive a signed agreement today," she [Cisco] said.[^] You are right John, Apple can't break the rules, but thankfully they have seem to have paid Cisco a lot of money. And finding the iPhone on the Cisco website is bloody difficult.

                                      regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

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                                      I don't see it happening, at least not until it becomes pointless.

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                                        Well, it's got full iPod functionality in it and it isn't an afterthought like on most MP3 phones. nano like storage though.

                                        regards, Paul Watson Ireland & South Africa

                                        Shog9 wrote:

                                        I don't see it happening, at least not until it becomes pointless.

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                                        Rohde
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                                        Yeah it's very cool. But a Macworld keynote without any Mac stuff?!?! No mention of Leo etc. Very strange. And the name change from Apple Computer to just Apple speaks volumes I think.


                                        "When you have made evil the means of survival, do not expect men to remain good. Do not expect them to stay moral and lose their lives for the purpose of becoming the fodder of the immoral. Do not expect them to produce, when production is punished and looting rewarded. Do not ask, `Who is destroying the world?' You are."
                                        -Atlas Shrugged, Ayn Rand

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                                          My experience is exactly the opposite. Cingular coverage rocks, and everyone else sucks.

                                          Jon Sagara When I grow up, I'm changing my name to Joe Kickass! My Blog | My Site | My Articles

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                                          Major metro area? I believe that's the draw for them. I'm in Iowa though and half the state has no coverage. I could only dial 911 if need be. Not worth it for me. People here who DO have them say they get dropped calls a lot too due to lack of towers etc.

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