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  • J Josh Smith

    Do you like the "standard" work week of 5 days work, 2 days free? I would prefer 7 days work, 4 days free. Obviously it would be ideal to have 0 days work, and every day free...but that's not going to happen until I win the lotto. What would you prefer?

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    I really hate the concept of working only 8 or 9 hours a day. The day is ruined, face it, why not just work 14 or 15 hours, with long breaks and happy hours, and have a 4 day weekend. I work really long nights sometimes, non-IT, and it's lovely. You exhaust yourself for a couple of days, but you usually only need 1 day to recover from this. Of course this is not really compatible with having kids... or a life...


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    • J Josh Smith

      Do you like the "standard" work week of 5 days work, 2 days free? I would prefer 7 days work, 4 days free. Obviously it would be ideal to have 0 days work, and every day free...but that's not going to happen until I win the lotto. What would you prefer?

      :josh: My WPF Blog[^] Don't you wish your girlfriend was hot like me?

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      Rocky Moore
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      Well, if I worked for someone, I would rather have 4 tens but if the project is exciting enough, I might not want that many days off ;)

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      • J Josh Smith

        Do you like the "standard" work week of 5 days work, 2 days free? I would prefer 7 days work, 4 days free. Obviously it would be ideal to have 0 days work, and every day free...but that's not going to happen until I win the lotto. What would you prefer?

        :josh: My WPF Blog[^] Don't you wish your girlfriend was hot like me?

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        I am a big fan of doing 4x10 and taking Friday off.

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        • J Josh Smith

          Do you like the "standard" work week of 5 days work, 2 days free? I would prefer 7 days work, 4 days free. Obviously it would be ideal to have 0 days work, and every day free...but that's not going to happen until I win the lotto. What would you prefer?

          :josh: My WPF Blog[^] Don't you wish your girlfriend was hot like me?

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          ToddHileHoffer
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          Five six hour days (with no lunch break) is enough. No company would let you do that because capitalism sucks but I don't usually code more then six hours in a day no matter how many hours I'm in the office.

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          • J Josh Smith

            Throw away the idea of a 7 day week. If you could reinvent the whole system, what would you choose?

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            Nish Nishant
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            Josh Smith wrote:

            Throw away the idea of a 7 day week. If you could reinvent the whole system, what would you choose?

            Assuming a 30 day month, I'd do this :- work 6 days 1 holiday work 6 days 1 holiday work 6 days 1 holiday work 4 days 5 holidays That'd allow me to take a decent holiday (5 days) every month. And I never have to work more than 6 days at a stretch. The company ends up with 22 working days a month, which is what they currently get too. It's a win-win situation :-)

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            • C Chris Austin

              I am a big fan of doing 4x10 and taking Friday off.

              My Blog A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. - -Lazarus Long

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              Chris Austin wrote:

              I am a big fan of doing 4x10 and taking Friday off.

              I like that!

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              • J Josh Smith

                Do you like the "standard" work week of 5 days work, 2 days free? I would prefer 7 days work, 4 days free. Obviously it would be ideal to have 0 days work, and every day free...but that's not going to happen until I win the lotto. What would you prefer?

                :josh: My WPF Blog[^] Don't you wish your girlfriend was hot like me?

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                RaviBee
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                Well, I work 7 days a week right now and don't have time to get everything I want to get done. So I guess I'd go for a 10 day work week between weekends. /ravi

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                  Josh Smith wrote:

                  Throw away the idea of a 7 day week. If you could reinvent the whole system, what would you choose?

                  Assuming a 30 day month, I'd do this :- work 6 days 1 holiday work 6 days 1 holiday work 6 days 1 holiday work 4 days 5 holidays That'd allow me to take a decent holiday (5 days) every month. And I never have to work more than 6 days at a stretch. The company ends up with 22 working days a month, which is what they currently get too. It's a win-win situation :-)

                  Regards, Nish


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                  Nishant Sivakumar wrote:

                  It's a win-win situation

                  Sounds very empowering... :laugh:

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                  • J joon vh

                    I really hate the concept of working only 8 or 9 hours a day. The day is ruined, face it, why not just work 14 or 15 hours, with long breaks and happy hours, and have a 4 day weekend. I work really long nights sometimes, non-IT, and it's lovely. You exhaust yourself for a couple of days, but you usually only need 1 day to recover from this. Of course this is not really compatible with having kids... or a life...


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                    joon vh. wrote:

                    Of course this is not really compatible with having kids... or a life...

                    Or being over 30. :)

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                    • J Josh Smith

                      Do you like the "standard" work week of 5 days work, 2 days free? I would prefer 7 days work, 4 days free. Obviously it would be ideal to have 0 days work, and every day free...but that's not going to happen until I win the lotto. What would you prefer?

                      :josh: My WPF Blog[^] Don't you wish your girlfriend was hot like me?

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                      El Corazon
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                      I actually like the 5-2/4-3 method, two weeks, 9 days of work, 5 days off including one long weekend. It gives me at least one friday off to run errands that need weekday hours. Very handy for doctors appointments so as not to miss work.

                      _________________________ Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau. Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)

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                      • J Josh Smith

                        Do you like the "standard" work week of 5 days work, 2 days free? I would prefer 7 days work, 4 days free. Obviously it would be ideal to have 0 days work, and every day free...but that's not going to happen until I win the lotto. What would you prefer?

                        :josh: My WPF Blog[^] Don't you wish your girlfriend was hot like me?

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                        leckey 0
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                        My current employer is very flexible--as long as you work a 1/2 day you do not need to take vacation time. So I can take the afternoon off (I'll be leaving today at 3pm) to go to the doctor and it's no big deal. My boss leaves early to go golfing. As long as the work gets done no one really cares. That is a HUGE difference from my last job because even though I was salaried people had a fit if you weren't in your chair at 8am to 5pm. So if I want a 'long weekend' I can leave early on Friday. We don't really take vacations so having big chunks of time off is not a big deal to us. I am saving my vacation time to go back to Australia next April.

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                        • J Josh Smith

                          Do you like the "standard" work week of 5 days work, 2 days free? I would prefer 7 days work, 4 days free. Obviously it would be ideal to have 0 days work, and every day free...but that's not going to happen until I win the lotto. What would you prefer?

                          :josh: My WPF Blog[^] Don't you wish your girlfriend was hot like me?

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                          WillemM
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                          I really love the 5 days work and 2 days free. This gives me plenty of time to do fun stuff and regain the necessary energy needed to do my job good.

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                          • J Josh Smith

                            Do you like the "standard" work week of 5 days work, 2 days free? I would prefer 7 days work, 4 days free. Obviously it would be ideal to have 0 days work, and every day free...but that's not going to happen until I win the lotto. What would you prefer?

                            :josh: My WPF Blog[^] Don't you wish your girlfriend was hot like me?

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                            Chris Kaiser
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                            I also have issues with the 24 hours a day. Ideally for me: Sleep for 8-10 hours. 2-3 hours for my time getting ready. 10-15 hours of steady work with a 2 hour lunch in the middle. 5-7 hours of my time. Which becomes a 27-37 hour day. Then I'd like to do that for 4 days, with 3 days off (also with the 27-37 hour days). The day is just too short. When I've got the juices flowing I want to stay coding. That takes me up to around 2 - 3 am alot of times, but then I'm rushed to get into the office the next morning, which kills the day due to being too tired. The day is just not long enough. Now to fit it into 24 hours. Its more like: Sleep 5-7 hours, 1 hour shower, fly into work driving through for coffee. Work 6-15 hours depending on load and the juices flowing. Eat wind down, and sleep. 5 days of that, and 2 days of recovery, I end up feeling like I don't have a weekend. So, ideally I'd work 4 grueling days, one and a half to recover, and one and a half to feel like I have a life. The 9-5 is just too artificial. Sometimes my best work is done at 2 am. Too bad we made life about productivity instead of productivity about life.

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                            • J Josh Smith

                              Do you like the "standard" work week of 5 days work, 2 days free? I would prefer 7 days work, 4 days free. Obviously it would be ideal to have 0 days work, and every day free...but that's not going to happen until I win the lotto. What would you prefer?

                              :josh: My WPF Blog[^] Don't you wish your girlfriend was hot like me?

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                              Ennis Ray Lynch Jr
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                              It really works out nice. I always have a 3 day weekend.


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                              • J Josh Smith

                                Do you like the "standard" work week of 5 days work, 2 days free? I would prefer 7 days work, 4 days free. Obviously it would be ideal to have 0 days work, and every day free...but that's not going to happen until I win the lotto. What would you prefer?

                                :josh: My WPF Blog[^] Don't you wish your girlfriend was hot like me?

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                                Chris McGlothen
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                                For me I'd like to do the four on(10-12 hour days) four off. This way I can get what I have to get done done and still have ample time to unwind/recharge and do something fun before going back to the 'grind':->


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                                • G Gary Kirkham

                                  My current work schedule is ideal for me. I work eight 9-hour days and one 8-hour day which gives me every other Friday off.

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                                  Miszou
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                                  I just left a job with that same schedule. While the 3 day weekends were nice, I realized that the only thing about the job that I enjoyed was the time off. I'm working a regulare 8 hour day every day now (with 1/2 hour for lunch) and you wouldn't believe how short the days are! :cool:


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                                    I just left a job with that same schedule. While the 3 day weekends were nice, I realized that the only thing about the job that I enjoyed was the time off. I'm working a regulare 8 hour day every day now (with 1/2 hour for lunch) and you wouldn't believe how short the days are! :cool:


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                                    Gary Kirkham
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                                    The only time it is a pain is when someone schedules a meeting on my off Friday. It doesn't happen that often, so it's OK...that's what comp time is for.

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                                      My current employer is very flexible--as long as you work a 1/2 day you do not need to take vacation time. So I can take the afternoon off (I'll be leaving today at 3pm) to go to the doctor and it's no big deal. My boss leaves early to go golfing. As long as the work gets done no one really cares. That is a HUGE difference from my last job because even though I was salaried people had a fit if you weren't in your chair at 8am to 5pm. So if I want a 'long weekend' I can leave early on Friday. We don't really take vacations so having big chunks of time off is not a big deal to us. I am saving my vacation time to go back to Australia next April.

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                                      Dan Neely
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                                      I'm somewhere in between. I have to put 40hrs in per week, but my employer is relatively flexible about when. Core hours are 9-4, so morning people can do 7 to 4 if they want, and parents with young kids can come in at 9 after they've caught the bus in the morning. The core hours aren't entirely rigid either, you can take off an occasional half day and if you make up the hours before the week's out you don't need to use any vacation. Taking time off is officially subject to manager approval but I've never been told no. My boss's even offered to move the target ship date forward the one time I expressed a desire to take the drop dead ship date off if we can get everything done before then. edit: the 40hrs mandatory is govt accounting rules and effectively dictated from above as a result.

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                                        I also have issues with the 24 hours a day. Ideally for me: Sleep for 8-10 hours. 2-3 hours for my time getting ready. 10-15 hours of steady work with a 2 hour lunch in the middle. 5-7 hours of my time. Which becomes a 27-37 hour day. Then I'd like to do that for 4 days, with 3 days off (also with the 27-37 hour days). The day is just too short. When I've got the juices flowing I want to stay coding. That takes me up to around 2 - 3 am alot of times, but then I'm rushed to get into the office the next morning, which kills the day due to being too tired. The day is just not long enough. Now to fit it into 24 hours. Its more like: Sleep 5-7 hours, 1 hour shower, fly into work driving through for coffee. Work 6-15 hours depending on load and the juices flowing. Eat wind down, and sleep. 5 days of that, and 2 days of recovery, I end up feeling like I don't have a weekend. So, ideally I'd work 4 grueling days, one and a half to recover, and one and a half to feel like I have a life. The 9-5 is just too artificial. Sometimes my best work is done at 2 am. Too bad we made life about productivity instead of productivity about life.

                                        This statement was never false.

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                                        El Corazon
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                                        Chris-Kaiser wrote:

                                        Ideally for me: Sleep for 8-10 hours. 2-3 hours for my time getting ready. 10-15 hours of steady work with a 2 hour lunch in the middle. 5-7 hours of my time. Which becomes a 27-37 hour day. Then I'd like to do that for 4 days, with 3 days off (also with the 27-37 hour days).

                                        I really like this idea... I've just put in a request for 32 hour days. It's also a power of two, so makes computer representation easier too. I've also put in for 32day months and I can't decide if I want to live with 384 days in a year or up it to 512 days with 16 months total.... I am not sure I could handle 4 months of summer... though 4 months of winter would be nice, though Leckey would likely shoot me. But then, it isn't likely to go through the request system here anyhow.... The Vendor who would have to handle the request is not registered in the official vendor database....

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                                        • J Josh Smith

                                          Do you like the "standard" work week of 5 days work, 2 days free? I would prefer 7 days work, 4 days free. Obviously it would be ideal to have 0 days work, and every day free...but that's not going to happen until I win the lotto. What would you prefer?

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                                          Marc Clifton
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                                          Rather than a fixed schedule, I prefer an environment that is flexible to real world needs, like visiting the bank, watching the school play, dealing with a sick pet, etc. Marc

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