very unhappy this morning
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I just refused an offer to work on .net 3.0 using C#, just because of the salary. I'm an MFC programmer for 3 years. I'd like to broaden my knowledge and get prepared for the next several years so I'm looking for a new job. I did get an offer, which seems very promising, to do research on WPF to see if it's applicable in some inductry field. It's a reserch job, not a develop job. But the salary is even less then my current salary, so I refused the offer last night. But, when I'm coding in MFC this moring, I suddenly became very unhappy, I don't know why, maybe just a fear, a fear about my future. So I came here to cry...:((
:((Let's do it together.
Be a diligent piggy.
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don't worry and let not be sad. I think you are the good developer so you will get an offer which is suitable to you an you will get an offer with best salary. Best regard, tudnfotech let smile because the tomorrow will be better than today:laugh:
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codediscuss.com wrote:
So I came here to cry..
Hmmm, I'm sure we had a shoulder lying around here somewhere :) Personally I think I'd find a research job quite appealing. Unless most of your time is spent documenting how to integrate it with legacy systems.. PAINFUL! :sigh: And another downside is that potentially most of your code doesn't ever see the light of day, if the technology is not approved. Double sighh :sigh:
"For fifty bucks I'd put my face in their soup and blow." - George Costanza
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Fortunately for me a lot of my developer's job is research. My employer has recognised my capability and enthusiasm for it. So far since November I've had three research assignments.
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I just refused an offer to work on .net 3.0 using C#, just because of the salary. I'm an MFC programmer for 3 years. I'd like to broaden my knowledge and get prepared for the next several years so I'm looking for a new job. I did get an offer, which seems very promising, to do research on WPF to see if it's applicable in some inductry field. It's a reserch job, not a develop job. But the salary is even less then my current salary, so I refused the offer last night. But, when I'm coding in MFC this moring, I suddenly became very unhappy, I don't know why, maybe just a fear, a fear about my future. So I came here to cry...:((
codediscuss.com wrote:
But, when I'm coding in MFC this moring, I suddenly became very unhappy, I don't know why, maybe just a fear, a fear about my future
Yeah I'd be unhappy if I was still coding in MFC, but that's loooong gone, 6 years gone. Move jobs, or you'll miss the train.
.net is a box of never ending treasures, every day I get find another gem.
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I just refused an offer to work on .net 3.0 using C#, just because of the salary. I'm an MFC programmer for 3 years. I'd like to broaden my knowledge and get prepared for the next several years so I'm looking for a new job. I did get an offer, which seems very promising, to do research on WPF to see if it's applicable in some inductry field. It's a reserch job, not a develop job. But the salary is even less then my current salary, so I refused the offer last night. But, when I'm coding in MFC this moring, I suddenly became very unhappy, I don't know why, maybe just a fear, a fear about my future. So I came here to cry...:((
Let's cry together.:((:((:((:(( I started to sudy the .NET 3.0 from yesterday.
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hadnt wrote:
let smile because the tomorrow will be better than today
Because tomorrow is Saturday ;)
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I just refused an offer to work on .net 3.0 using C#, just because of the salary. I'm an MFC programmer for 3 years. I'd like to broaden my knowledge and get prepared for the next several years so I'm looking for a new job. I did get an offer, which seems very promising, to do research on WPF to see if it's applicable in some inductry field. It's a reserch job, not a develop job. But the salary is even less then my current salary, so I refused the offer last night. But, when I'm coding in MFC this moring, I suddenly became very unhappy, I don't know why, maybe just a fear, a fear about my future. So I came here to cry...:((
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codediscuss.com wrote:
But, when I'm coding in MFC this moring, I suddenly became very unhappy, I don't know why, maybe just a fear, a fear about my future
Yeah I'd be unhappy if I was still coding in MFC, but that's loooong gone, 6 years gone. Move jobs, or you'll miss the train.
.net is a box of never ending treasures, every day I get find another gem.
Yes, maybe that's the hidden reason.
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I just refused an offer to work on .net 3.0 using C#, just because of the salary. I'm an MFC programmer for 3 years. I'd like to broaden my knowledge and get prepared for the next several years so I'm looking for a new job. I did get an offer, which seems very promising, to do research on WPF to see if it's applicable in some inductry field. It's a reserch job, not a develop job. But the salary is even less then my current salary, so I refused the offer last night. But, when I'm coding in MFC this moring, I suddenly became very unhappy, I don't know why, maybe just a fear, a fear about my future. So I came here to cry...:((
codediscuss.com wrote:
But the salary is even less then my current salary, so I refused the offer last night.
Is it very badly paid? Or mortgage to high?
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codediscuss.com wrote:
But the salary is even less then my current salary, so I refused the offer last night.
Is it very badly paid? Or mortgage to high?
We are a big screwed up dysfunctional psychotic happy family - some more screwed up, others more happy, but everybody's psychotic joint venture definition of CP
My first real C# project | Linkify!|FoldWithUs! | sighistno, not badly at all. Actually the HR told me that I got the highest salary for an Engineer of the same level. :doh: But it's still less than my curren salary. :sigh: good salary, or a good project? Maybe next time I will catch the oppotunity to switch to a new project, maybe C# :-O I feel a little bit regret of my decision now.
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codediscuss.com wrote:
So I came here to cry..
Hmmm, I'm sure we had a shoulder lying around here somewhere :) Personally I think I'd find a research job quite appealing. Unless most of your time is spent documenting how to integrate it with legacy systems.. PAINFUL! :sigh: And another downside is that potentially most of your code doesn't ever see the light of day, if the technology is not approved. Double sighh :sigh:
"For fifty bucks I'd put my face in their soup and blow." - George Costanza
CP article: SmartPager - a Flickr-style pager control with go-to-page popup layer.
Ashley van Gerven wrote:
most of your code doesn't ever see the light of day, if the technology is not approved
That is precisely the reason I will never do defense contracting ever again. One of my jobs was spent working for three years for a contractor. The 8 month research effort ended in a paper I wrote that went in a desk drawer. The 16 month emulation effort was run for two weeks and put in a desk drawer. The 18 month simulation effort (yes, they overlapped) was completed by never used and put in a desk drawer. The USAF spent over $2M to put stuff in a drawer somewhere. As much as I bitch and moan about dealing with users, I really like that my stuff is out in the world doing things. Not great or impressive things, but it's out there.
Software Zen:
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I just refused an offer to work on .net 3.0 using C#, just because of the salary. I'm an MFC programmer for 3 years. I'd like to broaden my knowledge and get prepared for the next several years so I'm looking for a new job. I did get an offer, which seems very promising, to do research on WPF to see if it's applicable in some inductry field. It's a reserch job, not a develop job. But the salary is even less then my current salary, so I refused the offer last night. But, when I'm coding in MFC this moring, I suddenly became very unhappy, I don't know why, maybe just a fear, a fear about my future. So I came here to cry...:((
codediscuss.com wrote:
I did get an offer, which seems very promising, to do research on WPF to see if it's applicable in some inductry field. It's a reserch job, not a develop job.
When you switch languages/technologies/whatever you should expect a decrease in pay. If it is something that you can deal with I would say go for it just to gain the knowledge to turn around and demand higher pay again after 6 months or a year.
CleaKO
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Ashley van Gerven wrote:
most of your code doesn't ever see the light of day, if the technology is not approved
That is precisely the reason I will never do defense contracting ever again. One of my jobs was spent working for three years for a contractor. The 8 month research effort ended in a paper I wrote that went in a desk drawer. The 16 month emulation effort was run for two weeks and put in a desk drawer. The 18 month simulation effort (yes, they overlapped) was completed by never used and put in a desk drawer. The USAF spent over $2M to put stuff in a drawer somewhere. As much as I bitch and moan about dealing with users, I really like that my stuff is out in the world doing things. Not great or impressive things, but it's out there.
Software Zen:
delete this;Gary Wheeler wrote:
I really like that my stuff is out in the world doing things.
Isnt that every developer's dream? :-D
CleaKO
"I think you'll be okay here, they have a thin candy shell. 'Surprised you didn't know that.'" - Tommy (Tommy Boy)
"Fill it up again! Fill it up again! Once it hits your lips, it's so good!" - Frank the Tank (Old School) -
Ashley van Gerven wrote:
most of your code doesn't ever see the light of day, if the technology is not approved
That is precisely the reason I will never do defense contracting ever again. One of my jobs was spent working for three years for a contractor. The 8 month research effort ended in a paper I wrote that went in a desk drawer. The 16 month emulation effort was run for two weeks and put in a desk drawer. The 18 month simulation effort (yes, they overlapped) was completed by never used and put in a desk drawer. The USAF spent over $2M to put stuff in a drawer somewhere. As much as I bitch and moan about dealing with users, I really like that my stuff is out in the world doing things. Not great or impressive things, but it's out there.
Software Zen:
delete this;I guess the best of both worlds is to be working on actual projects using latest technology. But that can be risky (and stressful!)
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codediscuss.com wrote:
But, when I'm coding in MFC this moring, I suddenly became very unhappy, I don't know why, maybe just a fear, a fear about my future
Yeah I'd be unhappy if I was still coding in MFC, but that's loooong gone, 6 years gone. Move jobs, or you'll miss the train.
.net is a box of never ending treasures, every day I get find another gem.
I played with C# over the past few years on small projects as a C++ developer. When I switched over to full C# I was able to adapt within less than a month. You can always learn C# on your own time. There's a lot of new C# technologies that a fun to mess with.
Todd Smith
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no, not badly at all. Actually the HR told me that I got the highest salary for an Engineer of the same level. :doh: But it's still less than my curren salary. :sigh: good salary, or a good project? Maybe next time I will catch the oppotunity to switch to a new project, maybe C# :-O I feel a little bit regret of my decision now.
While you might have had a smaller salary, you would have been paided to learn a new technology that moves you more into today's market and you have to place a value on the reference on your resume.
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no, not badly at all. Actually the HR told me that I got the highest salary for an Engineer of the same level. :doh: But it's still less than my curren salary. :sigh: good salary, or a good project? Maybe next time I will catch the oppotunity to switch to a new project, maybe C# :-O I feel a little bit regret of my decision now.
If you ask me, good project. You spend there at least 8 hours of your day, It should be something you enjoy. It should pay a living, a bit of extras and something to put aside for later, the rest is really optional. But that's just me.
We are a big screwed up dysfunctional psychotic happy family - some more screwed up, others more happy, but everybody's psychotic joint venture definition of CP
My first real C# project | Linkify!|FoldWithUs! | sighist -
I played with C# over the past few years on small projects as a C++ developer. When I switched over to full C# I was able to adapt within less than a month. You can always learn C# on your own time. There's a lot of new C# technologies that a fun to mess with.
Todd Smith