very unhappy this morning
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I just refused an offer to work on .net 3.0 using C#, just because of the salary. I'm an MFC programmer for 3 years. I'd like to broaden my knowledge and get prepared for the next several years so I'm looking for a new job. I did get an offer, which seems very promising, to do research on WPF to see if it's applicable in some inductry field. It's a reserch job, not a develop job. But the salary is even less then my current salary, so I refused the offer last night. But, when I'm coding in MFC this moring, I suddenly became very unhappy, I don't know why, maybe just a fear, a fear about my future. So I came here to cry...:((
codediscuss.com wrote:
But the salary is even less then my current salary, so I refused the offer last night.
Is it very badly paid? Or mortgage to high?
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codediscuss.com wrote:
But the salary is even less then my current salary, so I refused the offer last night.
Is it very badly paid? Or mortgage to high?
We are a big screwed up dysfunctional psychotic happy family - some more screwed up, others more happy, but everybody's psychotic joint venture definition of CP
My first real C# project | Linkify!|FoldWithUs! | sighistno, not badly at all. Actually the HR told me that I got the highest salary for an Engineer of the same level. :doh: But it's still less than my curren salary. :sigh: good salary, or a good project? Maybe next time I will catch the oppotunity to switch to a new project, maybe C# :-O I feel a little bit regret of my decision now.
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codediscuss.com wrote:
So I came here to cry..
Hmmm, I'm sure we had a shoulder lying around here somewhere :) Personally I think I'd find a research job quite appealing. Unless most of your time is spent documenting how to integrate it with legacy systems.. PAINFUL! :sigh: And another downside is that potentially most of your code doesn't ever see the light of day, if the technology is not approved. Double sighh :sigh:
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Ashley van Gerven wrote:
most of your code doesn't ever see the light of day, if the technology is not approved
That is precisely the reason I will never do defense contracting ever again. One of my jobs was spent working for three years for a contractor. The 8 month research effort ended in a paper I wrote that went in a desk drawer. The 16 month emulation effort was run for two weeks and put in a desk drawer. The 18 month simulation effort (yes, they overlapped) was completed by never used and put in a desk drawer. The USAF spent over $2M to put stuff in a drawer somewhere. As much as I bitch and moan about dealing with users, I really like that my stuff is out in the world doing things. Not great or impressive things, but it's out there.
Software Zen:
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I just refused an offer to work on .net 3.0 using C#, just because of the salary. I'm an MFC programmer for 3 years. I'd like to broaden my knowledge and get prepared for the next several years so I'm looking for a new job. I did get an offer, which seems very promising, to do research on WPF to see if it's applicable in some inductry field. It's a reserch job, not a develop job. But the salary is even less then my current salary, so I refused the offer last night. But, when I'm coding in MFC this moring, I suddenly became very unhappy, I don't know why, maybe just a fear, a fear about my future. So I came here to cry...:((
codediscuss.com wrote:
I did get an offer, which seems very promising, to do research on WPF to see if it's applicable in some inductry field. It's a reserch job, not a develop job.
When you switch languages/technologies/whatever you should expect a decrease in pay. If it is something that you can deal with I would say go for it just to gain the knowledge to turn around and demand higher pay again after 6 months or a year.
CleaKO
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Ashley van Gerven wrote:
most of your code doesn't ever see the light of day, if the technology is not approved
That is precisely the reason I will never do defense contracting ever again. One of my jobs was spent working for three years for a contractor. The 8 month research effort ended in a paper I wrote that went in a desk drawer. The 16 month emulation effort was run for two weeks and put in a desk drawer. The 18 month simulation effort (yes, they overlapped) was completed by never used and put in a desk drawer. The USAF spent over $2M to put stuff in a drawer somewhere. As much as I bitch and moan about dealing with users, I really like that my stuff is out in the world doing things. Not great or impressive things, but it's out there.
Software Zen:
delete this;Gary Wheeler wrote:
I really like that my stuff is out in the world doing things.
Isnt that every developer's dream? :-D
CleaKO
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Ashley van Gerven wrote:
most of your code doesn't ever see the light of day, if the technology is not approved
That is precisely the reason I will never do defense contracting ever again. One of my jobs was spent working for three years for a contractor. The 8 month research effort ended in a paper I wrote that went in a desk drawer. The 16 month emulation effort was run for two weeks and put in a desk drawer. The 18 month simulation effort (yes, they overlapped) was completed by never used and put in a desk drawer. The USAF spent over $2M to put stuff in a drawer somewhere. As much as I bitch and moan about dealing with users, I really like that my stuff is out in the world doing things. Not great or impressive things, but it's out there.
Software Zen:
delete this;I guess the best of both worlds is to be working on actual projects using latest technology. But that can be risky (and stressful!)
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codediscuss.com wrote:
But, when I'm coding in MFC this moring, I suddenly became very unhappy, I don't know why, maybe just a fear, a fear about my future
Yeah I'd be unhappy if I was still coding in MFC, but that's loooong gone, 6 years gone. Move jobs, or you'll miss the train.
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I played with C# over the past few years on small projects as a C++ developer. When I switched over to full C# I was able to adapt within less than a month. You can always learn C# on your own time. There's a lot of new C# technologies that a fun to mess with.
Todd Smith
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no, not badly at all. Actually the HR told me that I got the highest salary for an Engineer of the same level. :doh: But it's still less than my curren salary. :sigh: good salary, or a good project? Maybe next time I will catch the oppotunity to switch to a new project, maybe C# :-O I feel a little bit regret of my decision now.
While you might have had a smaller salary, you would have been paided to learn a new technology that moves you more into today's market and you have to place a value on the reference on your resume.
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no, not badly at all. Actually the HR told me that I got the highest salary for an Engineer of the same level. :doh: But it's still less than my curren salary. :sigh: good salary, or a good project? Maybe next time I will catch the oppotunity to switch to a new project, maybe C# :-O I feel a little bit regret of my decision now.
If you ask me, good project. You spend there at least 8 hours of your day, It should be something you enjoy. It should pay a living, a bit of extras and something to put aside for later, the rest is really optional. But that's just me.
We are a big screwed up dysfunctional psychotic happy family - some more screwed up, others more happy, but everybody's psychotic joint venture definition of CP
My first real C# project | Linkify!|FoldWithUs! | sighist -
I played with C# over the past few years on small projects as a C++ developer. When I switched over to full C# I was able to adapt within less than a month. You can always learn C# on your own time. There's a lot of new C# technologies that a fun to mess with.
Todd Smith