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    I just refused an offer to work on .net 3.0 using C#, just because of the salary. I'm an MFC programmer for 3 years. I'd like to broaden my knowledge and get prepared for the next several years so I'm looking for a new job. I did get an offer, which seems very promising, to do research on WPF to see if it's applicable in some inductry field. It's a reserch job, not a develop job. But the salary is even less then my current salary, so I refused the offer last night. But, when I'm coding in MFC this moring, I suddenly became very unhappy, I don't know why, maybe just a fear, a fear about my future. So I came here to cry...:((

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    codediscuss.com wrote:

    But, when I'm coding in MFC this moring, I suddenly became very unhappy, I don't know why, maybe just a fear, a fear about my future

    Yeah I'd be unhappy if I was still coding in MFC, but that's loooong gone, 6 years gone. Move jobs, or you'll miss the train.

    .net is a box of never ending treasures, every day I get find another gem.

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      I just refused an offer to work on .net 3.0 using C#, just because of the salary. I'm an MFC programmer for 3 years. I'd like to broaden my knowledge and get prepared for the next several years so I'm looking for a new job. I did get an offer, which seems very promising, to do research on WPF to see if it's applicable in some inductry field. It's a reserch job, not a develop job. But the salary is even less then my current salary, so I refused the offer last night. But, when I'm coding in MFC this moring, I suddenly became very unhappy, I don't know why, maybe just a fear, a fear about my future. So I came here to cry...:((

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      guiqul163
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      Let's cry together.:((:((:((:(( I started to sudy the .NET 3.0 from yesterday.

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        let smile because the tomorrow will be better than today

        Because tomorrow is Saturday ;)

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        hahahaha :laugh::laugh:

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        • C code_discuss

          I just refused an offer to work on .net 3.0 using C#, just because of the salary. I'm an MFC programmer for 3 years. I'd like to broaden my knowledge and get prepared for the next several years so I'm looking for a new job. I did get an offer, which seems very promising, to do research on WPF to see if it's applicable in some inductry field. It's a reserch job, not a develop job. But the salary is even less then my current salary, so I refused the offer last night. But, when I'm coding in MFC this moring, I suddenly became very unhappy, I don't know why, maybe just a fear, a fear about my future. So I came here to cry...:((

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            codediscuss.com wrote:

            But, when I'm coding in MFC this moring, I suddenly became very unhappy, I don't know why, maybe just a fear, a fear about my future

            Yeah I'd be unhappy if I was still coding in MFC, but that's loooong gone, 6 years gone. Move jobs, or you'll miss the train.

            .net is a box of never ending treasures, every day I get find another gem.

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            Yes, maybe that's the hidden reason.

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            • C code_discuss

              I just refused an offer to work on .net 3.0 using C#, just because of the salary. I'm an MFC programmer for 3 years. I'd like to broaden my knowledge and get prepared for the next several years so I'm looking for a new job. I did get an offer, which seems very promising, to do research on WPF to see if it's applicable in some inductry field. It's a reserch job, not a develop job. But the salary is even less then my current salary, so I refused the offer last night. But, when I'm coding in MFC this moring, I suddenly became very unhappy, I don't know why, maybe just a fear, a fear about my future. So I came here to cry...:((

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              peterchen
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              codediscuss.com wrote:

              But the salary is even less then my current salary, so I refused the offer last night.

              Is it very badly paid? Or mortgage to high?


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                codediscuss.com wrote:

                But the salary is even less then my current salary, so I refused the offer last night.

                Is it very badly paid? Or mortgage to high?


                We are a big screwed up dysfunctional psychotic happy family - some more screwed up, others more happy, but everybody's psychotic joint venture definition of CP
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                no, not badly at all. Actually the HR told me that I got the highest salary for an Engineer of the same level. :doh: But it's still less than my curren salary. :sigh: good salary, or a good project? Maybe next time I will catch the oppotunity to switch to a new project, maybe C# :-O I feel a little bit regret of my decision now.

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                • A Ashley van Gerven

                  codediscuss.com wrote:

                  So I came here to cry..

                  Hmmm, I'm sure we had a shoulder lying around here somewhere :) Personally I think I'd find a research job quite appealing. Unless most of your time is spent documenting how to integrate it with legacy systems.. PAINFUL! :sigh: And another downside is that potentially most of your code doesn't ever see the light of day, if the technology is not approved. Double sighh :sigh:

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                  Ashley van Gerven wrote:

                  most of your code doesn't ever see the light of day, if the technology is not approved

                  That is precisely the reason I will never do defense contracting ever again. One of my jobs was spent working for three years for a contractor. The 8 month research effort ended in a paper I wrote that went in a desk drawer. The 16 month emulation effort was run for two weeks and put in a desk drawer. The 18 month simulation effort (yes, they overlapped) was completed by never used and put in a desk drawer. The USAF spent over $2M to put stuff in a drawer somewhere. As much as I bitch and moan about dealing with users, I really like that my stuff is out in the world doing things. Not great or impressive things, but it's out there.


                  Software Zen: delete this;

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                    I just refused an offer to work on .net 3.0 using C#, just because of the salary. I'm an MFC programmer for 3 years. I'd like to broaden my knowledge and get prepared for the next several years so I'm looking for a new job. I did get an offer, which seems very promising, to do research on WPF to see if it's applicable in some inductry field. It's a reserch job, not a develop job. But the salary is even less then my current salary, so I refused the offer last night. But, when I'm coding in MFC this moring, I suddenly became very unhappy, I don't know why, maybe just a fear, a fear about my future. So I came here to cry...:((

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                    Marcus J Smith
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                    codediscuss.com wrote:

                    I did get an offer, which seems very promising, to do research on WPF to see if it's applicable in some inductry field. It's a reserch job, not a develop job.

                    When you switch languages/technologies/whatever you should expect a decrease in pay. If it is something that you can deal with I would say go for it just to gain the knowledge to turn around and demand higher pay again after 6 months or a year.


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                    • G Gary Wheeler

                      Ashley van Gerven wrote:

                      most of your code doesn't ever see the light of day, if the technology is not approved

                      That is precisely the reason I will never do defense contracting ever again. One of my jobs was spent working for three years for a contractor. The 8 month research effort ended in a paper I wrote that went in a desk drawer. The 16 month emulation effort was run for two weeks and put in a desk drawer. The 18 month simulation effort (yes, they overlapped) was completed by never used and put in a desk drawer. The USAF spent over $2M to put stuff in a drawer somewhere. As much as I bitch and moan about dealing with users, I really like that my stuff is out in the world doing things. Not great or impressive things, but it's out there.


                      Software Zen: delete this;

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                      Marcus J Smith
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                      Gary Wheeler wrote:

                      I really like that my stuff is out in the world doing things.

                      Isnt that every developer's dream? :-D


                      CleaKO

                      "I think you'll be okay here, they have a thin candy shell. 'Surprised you didn't know that.'" - Tommy (Tommy Boy)
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                      • G Gary Wheeler

                        Ashley van Gerven wrote:

                        most of your code doesn't ever see the light of day, if the technology is not approved

                        That is precisely the reason I will never do defense contracting ever again. One of my jobs was spent working for three years for a contractor. The 8 month research effort ended in a paper I wrote that went in a desk drawer. The 16 month emulation effort was run for two weeks and put in a desk drawer. The 18 month simulation effort (yes, they overlapped) was completed by never used and put in a desk drawer. The USAF spent over $2M to put stuff in a drawer somewhere. As much as I bitch and moan about dealing with users, I really like that my stuff is out in the world doing things. Not great or impressive things, but it's out there.


                        Software Zen: delete this;

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                        I guess the best of both worlds is to be working on actual projects using latest technology. But that can be risky (and stressful!)

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                          codediscuss.com wrote:

                          But, when I'm coding in MFC this moring, I suddenly became very unhappy, I don't know why, maybe just a fear, a fear about my future

                          Yeah I'd be unhappy if I was still coding in MFC, but that's loooong gone, 6 years gone. Move jobs, or you'll miss the train.

                          .net is a box of never ending treasures, every day I get find another gem.

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                          I played with C# over the past few years on small projects as a C++ developer. When I switched over to full C# I was able to adapt within less than a month. You can always learn C# on your own time. There's a lot of new C# technologies that a fun to mess with.

                          Todd Smith

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                            no, not badly at all. Actually the HR told me that I got the highest salary for an Engineer of the same level. :doh: But it's still less than my curren salary. :sigh: good salary, or a good project? Maybe next time I will catch the oppotunity to switch to a new project, maybe C# :-O I feel a little bit regret of my decision now.

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                            While you might have had a smaller salary, you would have been paided to learn a new technology that moves you more into today's market and you have to place a value on the reference on your resume.

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                              no, not badly at all. Actually the HR told me that I got the highest salary for an Engineer of the same level. :doh: But it's still less than my curren salary. :sigh: good salary, or a good project? Maybe next time I will catch the oppotunity to switch to a new project, maybe C# :-O I feel a little bit regret of my decision now.

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                              If you ask me, good project. You spend there at least 8 hours of your day, It should be something you enjoy. It should pay a living, a bit of extras and something to put aside for later, the rest is really optional. But that's just me.


                              We are a big screwed up dysfunctional psychotic happy family - some more screwed up, others more happy, but everybody's psychotic joint venture definition of CP
                              My first real C# project | Linkify!|FoldWithUs! | sighist

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                                I played with C# over the past few years on small projects as a C++ developer. When I switched over to full C# I was able to adapt within less than a month. You can always learn C# on your own time. There's a lot of new C# technologies that a fun to mess with.

                                Todd Smith

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                                NormDroid
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                                Made the full switch around 2002, Only occasionaly do ATL/WTL if needed but now very rare.

                                .net is a box of never ending treasures, every day I get find another gem.

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