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  • P pbraun

    In my experience when working with MS OS platforms and drives that are not internal hard drives, one must wait until the hour glass stops being present by the mouse on the drive you are copying from. Then you will be able to paste to the destination drive. I found this out the hard way by attempting to copy files from one system to another over a dialup connection. Phil

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    Marc Clifton
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    pbraun wrote:

    one must wait until the hour glass stops being present by the mouse

    I can understand that. There was no hourglass. The Paste menu, when right-clicking on the destination, was simply gray. Both drives were spun up and I could navigate without delays (this is on an intranet, both boxes sitting on my desk). Marc

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    People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
    There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
    People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith

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      Don't forget the WOW factor!

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      Douglas Troy
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      Reading your and Chris' posts, I suddenly had this 'vision' of a fish swimming through the Ocean when he suddenly sees this bright, shiny lure in front of him. The fish thinks "WOW" ... gotta get me that ... and grabs it. In an instance, he's hooked, and being dragged through the water ... unable to stop, unable to get himself off the hook. His world is now a blur. Everything he knew and loved is being left behind, as he is yanked up out of the ocean. Choking. Can't breath ... all the while wondering why the heck he didn't just stay away from the lure to begin with ... Then, without warning, he is beheaded ... disemboweled ... and his lifeless body is then cast to the ground with millions of other fish that made the same mistake. THAT, is the real "Vista" Experience. :-> Now, if you'll all excuse me, I have to go flop around some more...


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      • D Douglas Troy

        Reading your and Chris' posts, I suddenly had this 'vision' of a fish swimming through the Ocean when he suddenly sees this bright, shiny lure in front of him. The fish thinks "WOW" ... gotta get me that ... and grabs it. In an instance, he's hooked, and being dragged through the water ... unable to stop, unable to get himself off the hook. His world is now a blur. Everything he knew and loved is being left behind, as he is yanked up out of the ocean. Choking. Can't breath ... all the while wondering why the heck he didn't just stay away from the lure to begin with ... Then, without warning, he is beheaded ... disemboweled ... and his lifeless body is then cast to the ground with millions of other fish that made the same mistake. THAT, is the real "Vista" Experience. :-> Now, if you'll all excuse me, I have to go flop around some more...


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        Bad Astronomy |VCF|wxWidgets|WTL

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        Jim Crafton
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        Damn, I guess this mornings magic mushrooms were *really* potent!! You should seriously consider writing PR copy for our friends in Redmond!

        ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! VCF Blog

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          pbraun wrote:

          one must wait until the hour glass stops being present by the mouse

          I can understand that. There was no hourglass. The Paste menu, when right-clicking on the destination, was simply gray. Both drives were spun up and I could navigate without delays (this is on an intranet, both boxes sitting on my desk). Marc

          Thyme In The Country
          Interacx

          People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
          There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
          People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith

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          Dan Neely
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          Was there a swirly loop? For some inexplicable reason the hourglass was replaced with a new icon that while shiny is completely nonobvious in meaning. I had to goto the change cursor section of control panel to figure it out.

          -- CleaKO The sad part about this instance is that none of the users ever said anything [about the problem]. Pete O`Hanlon Doesn't that just tell you everything you need to know about users?

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          • J Jim Crafton

            Damn, I guess this mornings magic mushrooms were *really* potent!! You should seriously consider writing PR copy for our friends in Redmond!

            ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Real Mentats use only 100% pure, unfooled around with Sapho Juice(tm)! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! VCF Blog

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            Douglas Troy
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            Jim Crafton wrote:

            I guess this mornings magic mushrooms were *really* potent!!

            Emmm ... that explains the funny taste in my coffee ... :rolleyes:


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              Marc Clifton wrote:

              Is there some reason I should continue using this OS, when basic copy and paste folders doesn't even work?

              It's almost certainly a hardware issue, Marc. Replace both machines with big new Vista boxes and i'm sure it'll all work just fine. :rolleyes:

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              :laugh:

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              • M Marc Clifton

                So, I open up a folder on the Vista box, right click on a subfolder and select "copy" I open another folder on a different machine. Right click. Paste is gray. Repeat. Same result. Repeat. Same result. Hmmm, but I can drag and drop between the two folders without any problem. Is there some reason I should continue using this OS, when basic copy and paste folders doesn't even work? Marc

                Thyme In The Country
                Interacx

                People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
                There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
                People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith

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                Chris Austin
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                Marc Clifton wrote:

                Is there some reason I should continue using this OS, when basic copy and paste folders doesn't even wor

                Nope. I've stopped using it myself and I am happier for it. Using it just felt like I was ice skating uphill. Sure, it has all of the nice shinny things, but logo certified drivers are crap and some of my favorite utilities don't work or are hobbled. My days are too short to have to deal with it.

                My Blog A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. - -Lazarus Long

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                • D Douglas Troy

                  Reading your and Chris' posts, I suddenly had this 'vision' of a fish swimming through the Ocean when he suddenly sees this bright, shiny lure in front of him. The fish thinks "WOW" ... gotta get me that ... and grabs it. In an instance, he's hooked, and being dragged through the water ... unable to stop, unable to get himself off the hook. His world is now a blur. Everything he knew and loved is being left behind, as he is yanked up out of the ocean. Choking. Can't breath ... all the while wondering why the heck he didn't just stay away from the lure to begin with ... Then, without warning, he is beheaded ... disemboweled ... and his lifeless body is then cast to the ground with millions of other fish that made the same mistake. THAT, is the real "Vista" Experience. :-> Now, if you'll all excuse me, I have to go flop around some more...


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                  Bad Astronomy |VCF|wxWidgets|WTL

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                  alex barylski
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                  Hahahahaha... Thats priceless...excellent analogy... :)

                  I finally got a job doing something I enjoy and I"m good at...15 hour days seem like play time :P

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                  • D Douglas Troy

                    Reading your and Chris' posts, I suddenly had this 'vision' of a fish swimming through the Ocean when he suddenly sees this bright, shiny lure in front of him. The fish thinks "WOW" ... gotta get me that ... and grabs it. In an instance, he's hooked, and being dragged through the water ... unable to stop, unable to get himself off the hook. His world is now a blur. Everything he knew and loved is being left behind, as he is yanked up out of the ocean. Choking. Can't breath ... all the while wondering why the heck he didn't just stay away from the lure to begin with ... Then, without warning, he is beheaded ... disemboweled ... and his lifeless body is then cast to the ground with millions of other fish that made the same mistake. THAT, is the real "Vista" Experience. :-> Now, if you'll all excuse me, I have to go flop around some more...


                    :..::. Douglas H. Troy ::..
                    Bad Astronomy |VCF|wxWidgets|WTL

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                    Bradml
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                    Mind if I quote you on that?


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                    • B Bradml

                      Mind if I quote you on that?


                      Brad Australian - Me on "Public interest" If you actually read this let me know.

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                      Douglas Troy
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                      Please do! :-D


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                      • M Marc Clifton

                        pbraun wrote:

                        one must wait until the hour glass stops being present by the mouse

                        I can understand that. There was no hourglass. The Paste menu, when right-clicking on the destination, was simply gray. Both drives were spun up and I could navigate without delays (this is on an intranet, both boxes sitting on my desk). Marc

                        Thyme In The Country
                        Interacx

                        People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
                        There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
                        People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith

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                        Sounds to me like you used the CTRL+C and then paste option. MS seems to ignore the CTRL+C sometimes even with XP. Its really annoying, but one has to deal with it. I have taken to using the menus or pressing CTRL+C multiple times. This may not help you and your situation, but it doesn't seem like it would hurt it either. Phil

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                          Marc Clifton wrote:

                          Is there some reason I should continue using this OS, when basic copy and paste folders doesn't even wor

                          Nope. I've stopped using it myself and I am happier for it. Using it just felt like I was ice skating uphill. Sure, it has all of the nice shinny things, but logo certified drivers are crap and some of my favorite utilities don't work or are hobbled. My days are too short to have to deal with it.

                          My Blog A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. - -Lazarus Long

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                          Chris Losinger
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                          Chris Austin wrote:

                          logo certified drivers are crap

                          every time my Vista box does an automatic Windows update, it forgets about my second monitor. actually, it forgets about the first, and makes the second the primary, and refuses to acknowledge the first - until i uninstall/reinstall the display driver. quite a treat

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                          • M Marc Clifton

                            So, I open up a folder on the Vista box, right click on a subfolder and select "copy" I open another folder on a different machine. Right click. Paste is gray. Repeat. Same result. Repeat. Same result. Hmmm, but I can drag and drop between the two folders without any problem. Is there some reason I should continue using this OS, when basic copy and paste folders doesn't even work? Marc

                            Thyme In The Country
                            Interacx

                            People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
                            There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
                            People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith

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                            Dev_Calz
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                            I think this falls under user error. Did you check to see if you had write permissions to the folder. I have never had a issue with copy and paste in vista

                            Chris Calzaretta

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                              Chris Austin wrote:

                              logo certified drivers are crap

                              every time my Vista box does an automatic Windows update, it forgets about my second monitor. actually, it forgets about the first, and makes the second the primary, and refuses to acknowledge the first - until i uninstall/reinstall the display driver. quite a treat

                              image processing toolkits | batch image processing | blogging

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                              Dev_Calz
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                              This has something to do with the driver. It has nothing to do with vista. The drivers for vista suck right now.. That is a very big part of the issue

                              Chris Calzaretta

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                                So, I open up a folder on the Vista box, right click on a subfolder and select "copy" I open another folder on a different machine. Right click. Paste is gray. Repeat. Same result. Repeat. Same result. Hmmm, but I can drag and drop between the two folders without any problem. Is there some reason I should continue using this OS, when basic copy and paste folders doesn't even work? Marc

                                Thyme In The Country
                                Interacx

                                People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
                                There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
                                People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith

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                                Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                                The explorer in Vista is beyond crap. :( So is the control panel and almost every other configuration dialog (except the old ones). I'm beginning to wonder what the hell Microsoft was thinking. I mean.. it is crap! It doesn't matter much how well the kernel guys did their jobs - the UI is horrible, horrible, horrible!!!

                                -- My disbelief is not a belief.

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                                  The explorer in Vista is beyond crap. :( So is the control panel and almost every other configuration dialog (except the old ones). I'm beginning to wonder what the hell Microsoft was thinking. I mean.. it is crap! It doesn't matter much how well the kernel guys did their jobs - the UI is horrible, horrible, horrible!!!

                                  -- My disbelief is not a belief.

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                                  Chris Losinger
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                                  Joergen Sigvardsson wrote:

                                  The explorer in Vista is beyond crap.

                                  oh god yes. the whole auto-horiz-scrolling thing, the auto-dimming on the 'arrows', the arrows themselves, the slider control to choose the view style (??? WTF ???). it's a mess.

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                                    This has something to do with the driver. It has nothing to do with vista. The drivers for vista suck right now.. That is a very big part of the issue

                                    Chris Calzaretta

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                                    Chris Austin
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                                    The issue is that this happens with supposedly certified drivers. Driver certification has become meaningless in the vista era. For as long as vista was in the works, it a crying shame that MS and the vendors didn't do a better job.

                                    My Blog A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. - -Lazarus Long

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                                      Joergen Sigvardsson wrote:

                                      The explorer in Vista is beyond crap.

                                      oh god yes. the whole auto-horiz-scrolling thing, the auto-dimming on the 'arrows', the arrows themselves, the slider control to choose the view style (??? WTF ???). it's a mess.

                                      image processing toolkits | batch image processing | blogging

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                                      Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                                      Chris Losinger wrote:

                                      the slider control to choose the view style

                                      what issues do have with that?

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                                        Sounds to me like you used the CTRL+C and then paste option. MS seems to ignore the CTRL+C sometimes even with XP. Its really annoying, but one has to deal with it. I have taken to using the menus or pressing CTRL+C multiple times. This may not help you and your situation, but it doesn't seem like it would hurt it either. Phil

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                                        Marc Clifton
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                                        pbraun wrote:

                                        Sounds to me like you used the CTRL+C and then paste option.

                                        No no no. Stop second guessing and read what I wrote. I right-clicked. I used the mouse. I selected "Copy" from the popup menu. Marc

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                                        People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
                                        There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
                                        People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith

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                                          Chris Losinger wrote:

                                          the slider control to choose the view style

                                          what issues do have with that?

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                                          Chris Losinger
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                                          a slider is the wrong control for picking one item from a small list of items.

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