Vista sucks
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Reading your and Chris' posts, I suddenly had this 'vision' of a fish swimming through the Ocean when he suddenly sees this bright, shiny lure in front of him. The fish thinks "WOW" ... gotta get me that ... and grabs it. In an instance, he's hooked, and being dragged through the water ... unable to stop, unable to get himself off the hook. His world is now a blur. Everything he knew and loved is being left behind, as he is yanked up out of the ocean. Choking. Can't breath ... all the while wondering why the heck he didn't just stay away from the lure to begin with ... Then, without warning, he is beheaded ... disemboweled ... and his lifeless body is then cast to the ground with millions of other fish that made the same mistake. THAT, is the real "Vista" Experience. :-> Now, if you'll all excuse me, I have to go flop around some more...
:..::. Douglas H. Troy ::..
Bad Astronomy |VCF|wxWidgets|WTLHahahahaha... Thats priceless...excellent analogy... :)
I finally got a job doing something I enjoy and I"m good at...15 hour days seem like play time :P
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Reading your and Chris' posts, I suddenly had this 'vision' of a fish swimming through the Ocean when he suddenly sees this bright, shiny lure in front of him. The fish thinks "WOW" ... gotta get me that ... and grabs it. In an instance, he's hooked, and being dragged through the water ... unable to stop, unable to get himself off the hook. His world is now a blur. Everything he knew and loved is being left behind, as he is yanked up out of the ocean. Choking. Can't breath ... all the while wondering why the heck he didn't just stay away from the lure to begin with ... Then, without warning, he is beheaded ... disemboweled ... and his lifeless body is then cast to the ground with millions of other fish that made the same mistake. THAT, is the real "Vista" Experience. :-> Now, if you'll all excuse me, I have to go flop around some more...
:..::. Douglas H. Troy ::..
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Mind if I quote you on that?
Brad Australian - Me on "Public interest" If you actually read this let me know.
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pbraun wrote:
one must wait until the hour glass stops being present by the mouse
I can understand that. There was no hourglass. The Paste menu, when right-clicking on the destination, was simply gray. Both drives were spun up and I could navigate without delays (this is on an intranet, both boxes sitting on my desk). Marc
People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh SmithSounds to me like you used the CTRL+C and then paste option. MS seems to ignore the CTRL+C sometimes even with XP. Its really annoying, but one has to deal with it. I have taken to using the menus or pressing CTRL+C multiple times. This may not help you and your situation, but it doesn't seem like it would hurt it either. Phil
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Marc Clifton wrote:
Is there some reason I should continue using this OS, when basic copy and paste folders doesn't even wor
Nope. I've stopped using it myself and I am happier for it. Using it just felt like I was ice skating uphill. Sure, it has all of the nice shinny things, but logo certified drivers are crap and some of my favorite utilities don't work or are hobbled. My days are too short to have to deal with it.
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Chris Austin wrote:
logo certified drivers are crap
every time my Vista box does an automatic Windows update, it forgets about my second monitor. actually, it forgets about the first, and makes the second the primary, and refuses to acknowledge the first - until i uninstall/reinstall the display driver. quite a treat
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So, I open up a folder on the Vista box, right click on a subfolder and select "copy" I open another folder on a different machine. Right click. Paste is gray. Repeat. Same result. Repeat. Same result. Hmmm, but I can drag and drop between the two folders without any problem. Is there some reason I should continue using this OS, when basic copy and paste folders doesn't even work? Marc
People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith -
Chris Austin wrote:
logo certified drivers are crap
every time my Vista box does an automatic Windows update, it forgets about my second monitor. actually, it forgets about the first, and makes the second the primary, and refuses to acknowledge the first - until i uninstall/reinstall the display driver. quite a treat
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So, I open up a folder on the Vista box, right click on a subfolder and select "copy" I open another folder on a different machine. Right click. Paste is gray. Repeat. Same result. Repeat. Same result. Hmmm, but I can drag and drop between the two folders without any problem. Is there some reason I should continue using this OS, when basic copy and paste folders doesn't even work? Marc
People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh SmithThe explorer in Vista is beyond crap. :( So is the control panel and almost every other configuration dialog (except the old ones). I'm beginning to wonder what the hell Microsoft was thinking. I mean.. it is crap! It doesn't matter much how well the kernel guys did their jobs - the UI is horrible, horrible, horrible!!!
-- My disbelief is not a belief.
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The explorer in Vista is beyond crap. :( So is the control panel and almost every other configuration dialog (except the old ones). I'm beginning to wonder what the hell Microsoft was thinking. I mean.. it is crap! It doesn't matter much how well the kernel guys did their jobs - the UI is horrible, horrible, horrible!!!
-- My disbelief is not a belief.
Joergen Sigvardsson wrote:
The explorer in Vista is beyond crap.
oh god yes. the whole auto-horiz-scrolling thing, the auto-dimming on the 'arrows', the arrows themselves, the slider control to choose the view style (??? WTF ???). it's a mess.
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This has something to do with the driver. It has nothing to do with vista. The drivers for vista suck right now.. That is a very big part of the issue
Chris Calzaretta
The issue is that this happens with supposedly certified drivers. Driver certification has become meaningless in the vista era. For as long as vista was in the works, it a crying shame that MS and the vendors didn't do a better job.
My Blog A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. - -Lazarus Long
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Joergen Sigvardsson wrote:
The explorer in Vista is beyond crap.
oh god yes. the whole auto-horiz-scrolling thing, the auto-dimming on the 'arrows', the arrows themselves, the slider control to choose the view style (??? WTF ???). it's a mess.
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Chris Losinger wrote:
the slider control to choose the view style
what issues do have with that?
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Sounds to me like you used the CTRL+C and then paste option. MS seems to ignore the CTRL+C sometimes even with XP. Its really annoying, but one has to deal with it. I have taken to using the menus or pressing CTRL+C multiple times. This may not help you and your situation, but it doesn't seem like it would hurt it either. Phil
pbraun wrote:
Sounds to me like you used the CTRL+C and then paste option.
No no no. Stop second guessing and read what I wrote. I right-clicked. I used the mouse. I selected "Copy" from the popup menu. Marc
People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith -
Chris Losinger wrote:
the slider control to choose the view style
what issues do have with that?
a slider is the wrong control for picking one item from a small list of items.
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I think this falls under user error. Did you check to see if you had write permissions to the folder. I have never had a issue with copy and paste in vista
Chris Calzaretta
ccalzaretta1 wrote:
Did you check to see if you had write permissions to the folder.
Dude. Read what I wrote. :) Drag & Drop worked fine. Marc
People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith -
So, I open up a folder on the Vista box, right click on a subfolder and select "copy" I open another folder on a different machine. Right click. Paste is gray. Repeat. Same result. Repeat. Same result. Hmmm, but I can drag and drop between the two folders without any problem. Is there some reason I should continue using this OS, when basic copy and paste folders doesn't even work? Marc
People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith -
The issue is that this happens with supposedly certified drivers. Driver certification has become meaningless in the vista era. For as long as vista was in the works, it a crying shame that MS and the vendors didn't do a better job.
My Blog A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. - -Lazarus Long
Chris Austin wrote:
Driver certification has become meaningless in the vista era. For as long as vista was in the works, it a crying shame that MS and the vendors didn't do a better job.
Insert long and highly detailed post from Jeffry Brickley about how people like him convinced MS to change the driver model at the last minute to allow native OGL support largely forcing nVidia and ATI to restart from scratch with their development here. Blame him, not MS. :rolleyes:
-- CleaKO The sad part about this instance is that none of the users ever said anything [about the problem]. Pete O`Hanlon Doesn't that just tell you everything you need to know about users?
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The explorer in Vista is beyond crap. :( So is the control panel and almost every other configuration dialog (except the old ones). I'm beginning to wonder what the hell Microsoft was thinking. I mean.. it is crap! It doesn't matter much how well the kernel guys did their jobs - the UI is horrible, horrible, horrible!!!
-- My disbelief is not a belief.
Joergen Sigvardsson wrote:
It doesn't matter much how well the kernel guys did their jobs - the UI is horrible, horrible, horrible!!!
I wish Microsoft had followed the *nix paradigm and provided the kernel and the UI as two separate pieces. Besides, that would allow others to compete for the UI development. Marc
People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith -
a slider is the wrong control for picking one item from a small list of items.
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Not to mention it's damn near impossible to pick the right one on the first try. Idiotic DesignTM
-- Raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
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Joergen Sigvardsson wrote:
It doesn't matter much how well the kernel guys did their jobs - the UI is horrible, horrible, horrible!!!
I wish Microsoft had followed the *nix paradigm and provided the kernel and the UI as two separate pieces. Besides, that would allow others to compete for the UI development. Marc
People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh SmithThey ought to have done that back in NT 3.1...
-- Raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
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Chris Austin wrote:
Driver certification has become meaningless in the vista era. For as long as vista was in the works, it a crying shame that MS and the vendors didn't do a better job.
Insert long and highly detailed post from Jeffry Brickley about how people like him convinced MS to change the driver model at the last minute to allow native OGL support largely forcing nVidia and ATI to restart from scratch with their development here. Blame him, not MS. :rolleyes:
-- CleaKO The sad part about this instance is that none of the users ever said anything [about the problem]. Pete O`Hanlon Doesn't that just tell you everything you need to know about users?
Nope :) I blame MS for the OGL thing in the first place, what an incredibly boneheaded move that was. Btw, I develop OGL software so I was one of those 'petitioners'. What made it more boneheaded was everyone was lobbying MS to correct their error in judgment as soon as it was announced. Yet they waited a very long time to make the decision.
My Blog A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. - -Lazarus Long