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  • C Chris Austin

    The issue is that this happens with supposedly certified drivers. Driver certification has become meaningless in the vista era. For as long as vista was in the works, it a crying shame that MS and the vendors didn't do a better job.

    My Blog A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. - -Lazarus Long

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    Dan Neely
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    Chris Austin wrote:

    Driver certification has become meaningless in the vista era. For as long as vista was in the works, it a crying shame that MS and the vendors didn't do a better job.

    Insert long and highly detailed post from Jeffry Brickley about how people like him convinced MS to change the driver model at the last minute to allow native OGL support largely forcing nVidia and ATI to restart from scratch with their development here. Blame him, not MS. :rolleyes:

    -- CleaKO The sad part about this instance is that none of the users ever said anything [about the problem]. Pete O`Hanlon Doesn't that just tell you everything you need to know about users?

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    • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

      The explorer in Vista is beyond crap. :( So is the control panel and almost every other configuration dialog (except the old ones). I'm beginning to wonder what the hell Microsoft was thinking. I mean.. it is crap! It doesn't matter much how well the kernel guys did their jobs - the UI is horrible, horrible, horrible!!!

      -- My disbelief is not a belief.

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      Marc Clifton
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      Joergen Sigvardsson wrote:

      It doesn't matter much how well the kernel guys did their jobs - the UI is horrible, horrible, horrible!!!

      I wish Microsoft had followed the *nix paradigm and provided the kernel and the UI as two separate pieces. Besides, that would allow others to compete for the UI development. Marc

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      People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
      There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
      People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith

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      • C Chris Losinger

        a slider is the wrong control for picking one item from a small list of items.

        image processing toolkits | batch image processing | blogging

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        Jorgen Sigvardsson
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        Not to mention it's damn near impossible to pick the right one on the first try. Idiotic DesignTM

        -- Raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

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        • M Marc Clifton

          Joergen Sigvardsson wrote:

          It doesn't matter much how well the kernel guys did their jobs - the UI is horrible, horrible, horrible!!!

          I wish Microsoft had followed the *nix paradigm and provided the kernel and the UI as two separate pieces. Besides, that would allow others to compete for the UI development. Marc

          Thyme In The Country
          Interacx

          People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
          There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
          People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith

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          Jorgen Sigvardsson
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          They ought to have done that back in NT 3.1...

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            Chris Austin wrote:

            Driver certification has become meaningless in the vista era. For as long as vista was in the works, it a crying shame that MS and the vendors didn't do a better job.

            Insert long and highly detailed post from Jeffry Brickley about how people like him convinced MS to change the driver model at the last minute to allow native OGL support largely forcing nVidia and ATI to restart from scratch with their development here. Blame him, not MS. :rolleyes:

            -- CleaKO The sad part about this instance is that none of the users ever said anything [about the problem]. Pete O`Hanlon Doesn't that just tell you everything you need to know about users?

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            Chris Austin
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            Nope :) I blame MS for the OGL thing in the first place, what an incredibly boneheaded move that was. Btw, I develop OGL software so I was one of those 'petitioners'. What made it more boneheaded was everyone was lobbying MS to correct their error in judgment as soon as it was announced. Yet they waited a very long time to make the decision.

            My Blog A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. - -Lazarus Long

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            • M Marc Clifton

              So, I open up a folder on the Vista box, right click on a subfolder and select "copy" I open another folder on a different machine. Right click. Paste is gray. Repeat. Same result. Repeat. Same result. Hmmm, but I can drag and drop between the two folders without any problem. Is there some reason I should continue using this OS, when basic copy and paste folders doesn't even work? Marc

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              People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
              There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
              People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith

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              Eric Georgiades
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              where was it that i read that MS gave a patch/fix for their copy/cut/pasting over partitions fix, but you had to call in for it as it's still unofficial :P once Vista SP2 comes out, then i'll rethink upgrading. currently XP SP2 for my work needs (.NET Developer) / OpenSuse 10.2 for my home needs)

              Ericos Georgiades

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              • M Marc Clifton

                Joergen Sigvardsson wrote:

                It doesn't matter much how well the kernel guys did their jobs - the UI is horrible, horrible, horrible!!!

                I wish Microsoft had followed the *nix paradigm and provided the kernel and the UI as two separate pieces. Besides, that would allow others to compete for the UI development. Marc

                Thyme In The Country
                Interacx

                People are just notoriously impossible. --DavidCrow
                There's NO excuse for not commenting your code. -- John Simmons / outlaw programmer
                People who say that they will refactor their code later to make it "good" don't understand refactoring, nor the art and craft of programming. -- Josh Smith

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                Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                To this date, I think that the most elegant OS design is that of Unix. Windows feels like a backwards compatible kludge...

                -- Raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

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                • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

                  To this date, I think that the most elegant OS design is that of Unix. Windows feels like a backwards compatible kludge...

                  -- Raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

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                  Chris Austin
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                  I have to take exception to that, z/VM pwns. ;P

                  My Blog A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. - -Lazarus Long

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                  • C Chris Losinger

                    a slider is the wrong control for picking one item from a small list of items.

                    image processing toolkits | batch image processing | blogging

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                    Rama Krishna Vavilala
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                    It's there for a reason. In Vista Icon sizes in the Explorer list view are more or less continuous. Small Icon: 16x16 Medium Icon 32x32 Large Icon : 48x48 Extra large: 256x256 (128x128 not sure) Vista also supports Icon sizes 18x18, 20x20, 22x22 etc So the slider allows for the continuous selection of icons sizes that are between small - medium or medium - large or large - extra large.

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                    • R Rama Krishna Vavilala

                      It's there for a reason. In Vista Icon sizes in the Explorer list view are more or less continuous. Small Icon: 16x16 Medium Icon 32x32 Large Icon : 48x48 Extra large: 256x256 (128x128 not sure) Vista also supports Icon sizes 18x18, 20x20, 22x22 etc So the slider allows for the continuous selection of icons sizes that are between small - medium or medium - large or large - extra large.

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                      Chris Losinger
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                      they aren't arranged large to small. and much more changes than icon size when you go from List to Details to Tiles.

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                      • C Chris Austin

                        I have to take exception to that, z/VM pwns. ;P

                        My Blog A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects. - -Lazarus Long

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                        Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                        Chris Austin wrote:

                        pwns

                        Yes, I hear the spell checkers on that platform are quite... spectacular!

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                        • R Raj Lal

                          You are suppose to say "WOW" if anything like this happens because the "WOW starts NOW (Oy, That Pun Hurts) the moment you start using VISTA"

                          Omit Needless Words - Strunk, William, Jr.


                          Vista? Photoshop Preview Handler here

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                          MoustafaS
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                          Hi, Is there any new puzzles for the day ?:-O


                          About : Islam
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                          • M MoustafaS

                            Hi, Is there any new puzzles for the day ?:-O


                            About : Islam
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                            Raj Lal
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                            Can you find out how many common words are hidden in the magical word "GRILLED"

                            Omit Needless Words - Strunk, William, Jr.


                            Vista? Photoshop Preview Handler here

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                            • R Raj Lal

                              Can you find out how many common words are hidden in the magical word "GRILLED"

                              Omit Needless Words - Strunk, William, Jr.


                              Vista? Photoshop Preview Handler here

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                              MoustafaS
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                              Girl, Grill, Led, Ill, Grid, Red, Leg, Drill, that's what I cought :-O


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                              • R Raj Lal

                                Can you find out how many common words are hidden in the magical word "GRILLED"

                                Omit Needless Words - Strunk, William, Jr.


                                Vista? Photoshop Preview Handler here

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                                Dan Neely
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                                Not much of a puzzle. www.anagramgenerator.com

                                -- CleaKO The sad part about this instance is that none of the users ever said anything [about the problem]. Pete O`Hanlon Doesn't that just tell you everything you need to know about users?

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                                • J Jorgen Sigvardsson

                                  They ought to have done that back in NT 3.1...

                                  -- Raaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

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                                  Michael Dunn
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                                  IIRC NT 3.1 was like that, but in 3.5 they moved the video system into kernel mode to get a speed increase.

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                                  • M MoustafaS

                                    Girl, Grill, Led, Ill, Grid, Red, Leg, Drill, that's what I cought :-O


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                                    Raj Lal
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                                    There are more than 20 common words :) think

                                    Omit Needless Words - Strunk, William, Jr.


                                    Vista? Photoshop Preview Handler here

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                                    • D Dan Neely

                                      Not much of a puzzle. www.anagramgenerator.com

                                      -- CleaKO The sad part about this instance is that none of the users ever said anything [about the problem]. Pete O`Hanlon Doesn't that just tell you everything you need to know about users?

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                                      Raj Lal
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                                      That won't give you more than 10 results The puzzle is to think of all the common words , try :) There are 20 of them can you find them ?

                                      Omit Needless Words - Strunk, William, Jr.


                                      Vista? Photoshop Preview Handler here

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